Fringe Catch-All - You Are My Favorite Thing, Fringe. My Very Favorite Thing.

D-Man777 wrote:

I knew in my heart that

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Windmark would warp out in time. Dude just creeps me out.

He sucks. I can't wait for him to bite it.

Stele wrote:

Spoiler Speculations

Stele, now that you are of the Cult of Who...

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My bet right now is that Walter's plan somehow involves resolving the paradox, since the Invaders are us from the future, not entirely unlike the Master's defeat in Sound of Drums/Last of the Time Lords. This assumes they aren't from another universe, which has been speculated, but I'm betting they aren't. And my hope is, yeah, it takes them back to the dandelion field, because I feel, hey, it's a fun genre show and the only people left watching love the characters, there's no reason to end on a down note, give the Family Bishop a happy ending.

And I have to say, now I'm furious with the Invaders, but I was always pretty angry with them because they are just us from the future. I really want Olivia telling one off for inflicting their mistakes on us.

And, I'm really bummed. Really unfair.

Seeing Walt's Universe Window feels like foreshadowing:

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Deeper parallels between Walter and Peter now--they've both lost children. Walt nearly killed a universe to get his back, it makes you wonder what Peter might do.

Yes, but they stole from the best. I doubt Walt will ever say "timey-wimey" though. Seems like he'd have little but contempt for that sort of simplification, especially when a confusing metaphor would work, too.

So, watched episode 19 of Season 4 last night. Maybe it's that I was really involved emotionally with the hunt for Jones, but I found the Observer invasion to be a weird, kinda lame non sequitur. The invaders seemed less alien, less intelligent, and less interesting than the Observers we've come to know. Where's that spooky omniscience? And WTF does this whole invasion have to do with any of the storylines up to this point?

ClockworkHouse wrote:

And WTF does this whole invasion have to do with any of the storylines up to this point?

Um, everything Jones was doing in season 4 he thought he was doing to save the future and prevent the Observers from taking over.

Stele wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

And WTF does this whole invasion have to do with any of the storylines up to this point?

Um, everything Jones was doing in season 4 he thought he was doing to save the future and prevent the Observers from taking over.

Haven't gotten there yet, then. As I said, I've watched through Ep 19.

I know after watching this episode everyone is focused on the tragedy, but I must say the scene with the Observer playing Simon had me in hysterics.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
Stele wrote:
ClockworkHouse wrote:

And WTF does this whole invasion have to do with any of the storylines up to this point?

Um, everything Jones was doing in season 4 he thought he was doing to save the future and prevent the Observers from taking over.

Haven't gotten there yet, then. As I said, I've watched through Ep 19.

Well you've seen Jones kidnap Olivia and unlock her powers. And you've seen him and Nina conspiring about stuff. And the new shape shifters. And all the talk from Jones about preparing for war or whatever. And just in ep 18 was the weird experiments killing people on both sides. It's just in ep 19 with the future reveal, you should have just figured out that he was preparing for war against the Observers, not against Earth 2.

So what you're saying is that I'm just dumb.

Well no, there's a lot of misdirection. And after you watch the finale you'll see that Jones isn't fully aware of William Bell's plans.

But also that future episode (4x19) might put a spin on season one. Then Jones clearly seemed to be against the other earth, but maybe it was the observers the whole time. Then again maybe having Peter erased is what led to the Observers invasion. There's still lots of things I'm not 100% clear about.

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The look in both Peter and Olivia's eyes at the end of the episode just screamed, I'm going to kill every last one of those MFers. I want to see them kick some serious observer ass.

Man, days later and this still bums me out.

Late to catch up (Pencon!), but man...

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Remember when Peter was hunting shape shifters? Yeah... this is going to get juicy.

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Preview for this week - if you didn't watch last week's episode, humongous spoilers.

RESIST!

Happy Fringe Day!

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Damn skippy!

Yeah, happy bummer day. I'm still bummed. Even the thought of Peter going all Bauer on the Invaders raises not a smile, but a heavy sigh.

About the latest episode:

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Don't know why Peter was so surprised when the portal just opened up again after they destroyed the first one. Even if it took the observers 100 years to rebuild in the future, couldn't they just open the later one to same exact time in the past?

Yeah that's kind of what I thought gewy.

Still, interesting episode. Felt like part 1 of something bigger though. Really want to see what happens next.

Defintely a holdover episode, but the preview for next week looks to be a good payoff.

Just 8 episodes to go...

trueheart78 wrote:

Defintely a holdover episode, but the preview for next week looks to be a good payoff.

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Peter's gonna go all Neo on that observer.

trueheart78 wrote:

Defintely a holdover episode,

What? No way. Major, major developments, arcs set, big business. This was a key episode. A fantastic key episode. Fringe is going out super strong.

I inoculated against bummer by watching S1 of The Wire, but still, parts of that ep were brutal. Walter and his scents? Maaaaaaaan. And gewy, I think your spoiler is exactly what happened.

SpacePPoliceman wrote:
trueheart78 wrote:

Defintely a holdover episode,

What? No way. Major, major developments, arcs set, big business. This was a key episode. A fantastic key episode. Fringe is going out super strong.

I didn't mean it in a bad way, and still am thoroughly enjoying it. Maybe I should have gone with less-exciting or low-key, I don't know, it was 2am when I finally got to it.

I felt the same, like it was "part 1" of something bigger. It was a setup episode. Maybe that's from having the black hole climax be not much of a climax? just feels like next week will finish off what was started this week.

"Contemplative," maybe? I can buy that. But it certainly wasn't filler in the way that episodes dealing with the loss of a major character can be. I mean, sh*t went down, big time.

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Has the Fringe Team ever outright failed before? They've been unaware of the scope of a case plenty, but in my memory, they've always resolved the parts they were aware of.

Happy Fringe Day!!!

It's almost here!

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