NCAA Football 2012 Season Catch-All

Yeah I'd be happy if they went back to 11 games and eliminated the FCS games entirely. Then 6 wins for a bowl would actually be 6 real wins, and a winning record on top of that.

firesloth wrote:
i38warhawk wrote:

What's going on with LSU coolbeans? Slow starts and games much closer then they should be two weeks in a row?

And why the hell are they playing Towson? I think we should stop letting top 25 teams play so many FCS or cupcake teams.

I assumed Towson was some new SEC powerhouse I'd never heard of.

Wow. No words. Great game against Arizona. I guess I need to post this again because I'm starting to get superstitious. Storm Woods ran strong. Sean Mannion looks really really good.

Also, resilient playing in a tough game. That's a game Oregon State typically loses.

Might be my second favorite Beavers team after the Jonathon Smith / Ken Simonton team. They're gaining ground on that team, though.

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Stele wrote:

Yeah I'd be happy if they went back to 11 games and eliminated the FCS games entirely. Then 6 wins for a bowl would actually be 6 real wins, and a winning record on top of that.

The FCS schools like the money, in fact some rely on on it to fund their Athletics . Not saying it's a good thing, but it's a beneficial to play them and who knows. You might pull an Appalachian State and knock of Michigan.

I'm fine with no FBS v FCS game, but warhawk has the primary argument against it.

I might even be fine with an 11-game season.

i38warhawk wrote:
Stele wrote:

Yeah I'd be happy if they went back to 11 games and eliminated the FCS games entirely. Then 6 wins for a bowl would actually be 6 real wins, and a winning record on top of that.

The FCS schools like the money, in fact some rely on on it to fund their Athletics . Not saying it's a good thing, but it's a beneficial to play them and who knows. You might pull an Appalachian State and knock of Michigan.

I know the FCS schools like it, but I'm actually more concerned about the big guys. What a joke that Alabama should play Western Kentucky or LSU should play Towson. I understand that this is currently how things work, but it's really pretty embarrassing and ridiculous.

There are a few exceptions for up-and-coming teams (WKU is not one of those), and Appalachian State is actually a good example. At least they were FCS champions a few years in a row (?) when Michigan played them. Some of the MAC schools are good and getting better.

Still, it's just unsavory and boring. Why the hell would anyone care to really watch one of those games? There's essentially no suspense (with one or two rare exceptions), and I'm not sure you really learn anything about your team.

firesloth wrote:
i38warhawk wrote:
Stele wrote:

Yeah I'd be happy if they went back to 11 games and eliminated the FCS games entirely. Then 6 wins for a bowl would actually be 6 real wins, and a winning record on top of that.

The FCS schools like the money, in fact some rely on on it to fund their Athletics . Not saying it's a good thing, but it's a beneficial to play them and who knows. You might pull an Appalachian State and knock of Michigan.

I know the FCS schools like it, but I'm actually more concerned about the big guys. What a joke that Alabama should play Western Kentucky or LSU should play Towson. I understand that this is currently how things work, but it's really pretty embarrassing and ridiculous.

There are a few exceptions for up-and-coming teams (WKU is not one of those), and Appalachian State is actually a good example. At least they were FCS champions a few years in a row (?) when Michigan played them. Some of the MAC schools are good and getting better.

Still, it's just unsavory and boring. Why the hell would anyone care to really watch one of those games? There's essentially no suspense (with one or two rare exceptions), and I'm not sure you really learn anything about your team.

The problem is that under current post-season one loss is a probable killer and 2 loss absolutely is so this won't change until a 16 team play-off happens.

You're talking about two different things, firesloth. WKU is an FBS school, in the Sun Belt. Just as UL-Monroe is, who beat Arkansas and should have beat Auburn in OT, and only lost to Oregon by 5. The MAC, Sun Belt, and WAC may not be "powerhouse" teams but they are Bowl Division and supposed to be on equal footing with the rest of the 120 teams.

If you want to make an argument about BCS conference schools only playing BCS conference schools, that's entirely different. And also hard to draw the line. Is the Mountain West up to your standards? Boise is pretty good but not much else. What about C-USA?

We're talking about teams in a different division entirely. Those teams should not be coming in to get slaughtered by the FBS division just for a paycheck. And it shouldn't count as a win.

In NCAA Basketball, teams play those lower division opponents for Exhibition games only, that don't count on their records. And in the few cases where they do play 1 of those teams as a "regular season" game, that win is not counted in their RPI, or in their selection to March Madness. Especially as football moves toward playoffs, they should adopt a similar policy. There's no reason for those lower division opponents to count as a win.

I am stunned. To be losing to Towson at home late in the second quarter is beyond words. All during the off season, we kept hearing how this was going to be the most explosive offense the Tigers have ever had during Miles reign. HA!!! There have been times that Mettenberger has made Jefferson look like a Heisman caliber QB. It's no accident that we keep winning, but moving down in the rankings. The powder-puff teams are now gone and now we are in the meat of the schedule. Next up is a much improved Florida team. If we play them anything similar to the way we played Towson, it will get ugly and fast.

Going the way things are, I can see us losing 3 games. Defense can only keep you in the game so many times. Eventually the offense has to step it up, and I just don't see them being able to do that against other SEC defenses.

Stele wrote:

We're talking about teams in a different division entirely. Those teams should not be coming in to get slaughtered by the FBS division just for a paycheck. And it shouldn't count as a win.

While I agree that these matchups are mostly a joke, they also serve the purpose of allowing the big teams to get their backups and freshmen some game experience. For the FBS players, they get to play in a big-game environment, perhaps for the only time in their life (even if half the stadium is empty). That's gotta be a nice memory for those players who survive the experience.

Still, that hippie talk doesn't justify those mismatches.

AUs_TBirD wrote:
Stele wrote:

We're talking about teams in a different division entirely. Those teams should not be coming in to get slaughtered by the FBS division just for a paycheck. And it shouldn't count as a win.

While I agree that these matchups are mostly a joke, they also serve the purpose of allowing the big teams to get their backups and freshmen some game experience. For the FBS players, they get to play in a big-game environment, perhaps for the only time in their life (even if half the stadium is empty). That's gotta be a nice memory for those players who survive the experience.

Still, that hippie talk doesn't justify those mismatches.

True. When you have to figure out who you're going to greyshirt. That's hard to do during the regular season since the SEC is tough. Kind of half being a smart a** and half being serious there. Makes some sense.

I think that also speaks, however, to the silly nature of college football. That they couldn't do the same thing against a TCU or Boise State and risk the loss because 1 loss like that could literally drop you out of contention.

So yeah if we could ever get to a 16 (or perfect 32) team playoff, then one loss wouldn't be so killer and we could dispense with the FCS games.

If we had 16-team playoffs, I'd definitely be for shortening the season.

DSGamer wrote:

Wow. No words. Great game against Arizona. I guess I need to post this again because I'm starting to get superstitious. Storm Woods ran strong. Sean Mannion looks really really good.

Also, resilient playing in a tough game. That's a game Oregon State typically loses.

Might be my second favorite Beavers team after the Jonathon Smith / Ken Simonton team. They're gaining ground on that team, though.

IMAGE(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/BennyBeaver.jpg)

The Beavers are shaping up to be a solid team. Watching that game made me forget how bad my Cyclones played earlier in the evening.

Stele wrote:

You're talking about two different things, firesloth. WKU is an FBS school, in the Sun Belt. Just as UL-Monroe is, who beat Arkansas and should have beat Auburn in OT, and only lost to Oregon by 5. The MAC, Sun Belt, and WAC may not be "powerhouse" teams but they are Bowl Division and supposed to be on equal footing with the rest of the 120 teams.

I agree that I'm talking about to *potentially* different things. I'm just thinking that the big schools should have more pride than padding their out-of-conference schedules with cupcakes.

And, yes, they do this because losing one game often means you're out of contention (although, it's better to lose really early!), but the polls should also take into account who the hell people play. If Alabama had lost to Michigan (ha, ha), that shouldn't have nicked them much in the polls against an LSU that beat Towson, for example. I know it currently does, but that's because we've adopted a goofy system.

Also, I take back what I said about WKU – they definitely seem to be on the right track, even if they were clearly never going to be a great match-up for Alabama.

WHAT?!??! The Longhorns were the beneficiaries of a BS call? Noooooooooo! That's the surprise of a lifetime!

Sooooooo glad to be out of the Big 12.

WHAT?!?!? Alabama was the beneficiary of a BS first down call on the same day?

Big 12 refutes apology.

"Reports that the Big 12 acknowledged a blown call and issued an apology to Oklahoma State are inaccurate," the Big 12 tweeted on Wednesday

Inaccurate != false, nor non-existant. Reporter has doubled down on accuracy and now claims she has an additional source confirming the story.

None of which REALLY matters, because everyone knows the call was blown and changed the outcome of the game. Who cares whether the Big 12 admits it?

True enough. The Big East admitted a couple of times when UofL got hosed at West Virginia, in both football and basketball. But they didn't reverse the result or anything. Or suspend the referees involved. So... pointless.

One of my all time favorite memo from the SEC home office.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/s...

Aggies, if you hear Marc Curles is the head official for you're game, expect a screw-job.

Hey, at least the league took action there. And at least there was no commonality in the teams affected, so no pattern of bias.

Before the season, when the new year of college football stretched out before us as an open plain of endless opportunities, I looked forward to tonight with fervent hopes and dreams. Now I only ask, not in the face.

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McFinn wrote:

Before the season, when the new year of college football stretched out before us as an open plain of endless opportunities, I looked forward to tonight with fervent hopes and dreams. Now I only ask, not in the face.

Don't worry.. Cal will be coming to Utah soon enough and you can punch us as hard as you want... we'll just take a knee.

McFinn wrote:

Before the season, when the new year of college football stretched out before us as an open plain of endless opportunities, I looked forward to tonight with fervent hopes and dreams. Now I only ask, not in the face.

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Looking pretty even right now.

If only we weren't our own worst enemy, we could have the lead.

I love coming home Thursday night. A game to watch and a beer to drink.

Tomorrow night is LSU-Florida. Okay, I'm nervous...

Tomorrow is huge for the SEC East, and also the West in the sense that this will be one of LSU's biggest tests all season. Although truth be told, LSU has a pretty tough schedule, period, this year.

Next three are @Fla, SCar, @A&M.

Speaking of the Ags, beat the hell outta Ole Miss!

Last minute ticket to the Ducks game tomorrow. This is the logic of a sports fan. It was free tickets to the Ducks with my friend or $50 to see Oregon State. I chose U of O over the Beavers partly to save money, but mostly so I don't jinx the Beavers.