NFL 2012 Week 3 Thread

karmajay wrote:
MilkmanDanimal wrote:

I lived through Rob Johnson, Brian Griese, Chris Simms, and Bruce Gradkowski's rookie year, but Josh Freeman is possibly having the worst game I have ever seen a Tampa QB play. This game has been BRUTAL to watch; everybody except the defensive line on both teams has been simply terrible.

/agreed

Currently 1/11 for 11 yards in the second half.

And edit: Down 9 with 2 1/2 minutes left; they run on first down, terrible pass on 2nd, then RUN ON 3RD AND 9 WITH 2:15 LEFT IN THE GAME 79 YARDS FROM A SCORE.

What. The. Hell.

And then a punt. Surrender.

Are you kidding me right now...lol wow.

Gabbert to Shorts, 80 yard TD.

Whimper finally sorta blocked someone and a receiver finally caught it.

And by "sorta blocked" someone, I mean he was still in the process of getting beat to the inside, but got his hands on the defender enough to at least let Gabbert reach the end of his dropback by himself.

Tennessee-Detroit. Wow. Ridiculous ending. Restored my faith in the glory of football after it was crushed by the pure, refined sports-esque excrement Tampa rectally streamed over the greater Dallas-Fort Worth metropolitan area. Chiefs polish off the Saints on a really impressive late drive, Dolphins miss the FG to keep OT going against the Jets.

CRAZY day. Also, the replacement refs are having another "special" sort of day, particularly with the question of "what is a fumble?"

Down to five undefeated teams, and four of them are playing another undefeated team. Parity!

Chiefs!

Suck it, Eagles!

Kerry Rhodes, FROM LOUISVILLE! with the awesome sack/fumble, and a 90 yard return for Arizona.

Also I just got home. So apparently the 49ers sucked it up at Minnesota today? All the tough schedule criticism pre-season, how they might lose to Green Bay, New England and so on... and they can't get it done against the Vikings? Ugh.

I wish Joe Flacco would remove his head from his ass every time he talks about being the best. What a jackass.

Man. I can't believe the Texans let that game come down to the last play after scoring three unanswered TDs in the first half. Still, can't really complain about being perfect after three games.

These f*cking refs.

They can't even let a coach call a timeout right.

The crowd chanting bullsh*t so loud it could be clearly heard over the commentators was pretty awesome.

This has gotten beyond out of hand

What a circuis of a game.

Thin_J wrote:

The crowd chanting bullsh*t so loud it could be clearly heard over the commentators was pretty awesome.

It's the American version of the traditional English chant, "The ref is a wanker".

I'm convinced that it is only a matter of time until someone is seriously injured do to the replacement referees' ineptitude.

Loved how they called defensive holding on the Patriots when the DB wasn't even touching the WR. Everybody knows the Patriots have a telekinetic secondary, and it's finally time they started being properly penalized for using THE POWER OF THEIR MINDS.

Nomad wrote:

I'm convinced that it is only a matter of time until someone is seriously injured do to the replacement referees' ineptitude.

It might be the refs themselves. Did you see Belichick grab that one at the end?

MilkmanDanimal wrote:

Loved how they called defensive holding on the Patriots when the DB wasn't even touching the WR. Everybody knows the Patriots have a telekinetic secondary, and it's finally time they started being properly penalized for using THE POWER OF THEIR MINDS.

That call turned the game, though the Pats brutal defense after it obviously didn't help. I haven't been that down on the temp refs (I haven't been able to watch a lot of games), but this was unignorable.

Wow, what a great weekend of football. A win by the Seahawks tomorrow night would make it perfect!

Ref throws hat right at Ogletree's feet causing him to slip.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...

Now edited into a Buffalo Wild Wings commercial

The refs were so bad this week. They almost cost the Titans that game on multiple occasions.

Oh my god bad refs. This has got to stop. For starters in the 49er game, Harbaugh got a challenge after calling his third timeout. There was such a sh*t show, that they ended up getting two more.

In the Cowboy game Kevin Ogletree slips on replacement ref’s hat in the end zone

Belichick grabs ref at end of game

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And probably many more...

In the Bucs-Cowboys game, Tampa forced to fumbles on Romo sacks. They had to challenge both of them. The first was a tough one, Romo made the idiotic decision of trying to shovel pass the ball forward right before he was dragged down, and he dropped it right before pushing it forward. Challenged, Tampa's ball. Tough call, so can't really blame them. The second one? Romo gets hammered, clearly drops the ball way before he hits the ground, and it bounces loose directly into the arms of Eric Wright, who takes it in for a TD. They rule Romo down by contact. Sure, the challenge gives Tampa the ball, but not the TD, and as execrably abysmal as Tampa's offense was yesterday, losing a TD was completely fatal.

My initial impression is things started out OK for the replacement refs, and I thought they'd improve with some experience.
I don't know what's going on, but best case scenario at this point is they're about the same as they were and are simply under more scrutiny from week to week. Is it possible the extra scrutiny and pressure is leading to more mistakes? Are the players and coaches pushing things a little more each week to see what they can get away with?
I'm 100% ok with them taking their time and getting calls right. The clearly bad calls and extra timeouts and back-and-forth once they're on the mic is starting to bug me after this week.
I'd really like to give the replacements the benefit of the doubt here, but I think it's time for the league to do something. I don't think the NFL really wants to sustain this level of officiating quality for much longer. I know I don't want to watch it continue.

Phishposer wrote:

Are the players and coaches pushing things a little more each week to see what they can get away with?

I think it's this. They've seen that bullying the refs is effective. They've seen that the refs don't understand certain rules well enough and seem to be unable to make certain calls.

Week 1, I think teams gave them the benefit of the doubt that they would keep things under control. They didn't do that. So between week 1 and 2 they started coaching their players to try and get away with more and more. And they got away with a lot. Leading to week 3 where they coached to both commit and expect uncalled penalties, leading to games that were completely out of control. Culminating in that bullsh*t game in Baltimore. When you can clearly hear fans chanting "Bullsh*t" on NBC in primetime, you have a very serious problem.

I actually hope the FCC severely fines the NFL for it. Make them lose some actual money over these refs and see how they feel about it.

I'm still not sure how replacement refs blowing calls will lead to someone getting hurt?? Kinda a bizzare jump in logic. Players get hurt in every game.. even with the regular refs.. are injuries up significantly from last year this time?

TheGameguru wrote:

I'm still not sure how replacement refs blowing calls will lead to someone getting hurt?? Kinda a bizzare jump in logic. Players get hurt in every game.. even with the regular refs.. are injuries up significantly from last year this time?

Kaos just answered you.

kaostheory wrote:

So between week 1 and 2 they started coaching their players to try and get away with more and more. And they got away with a lot. Leading to week 3 where they coached to both commit and expect uncalled penalties, leading to games that were completely out of control.

As more penalties are committed, and uncalled, and retaliation and escalation ensue... sh*t it going to get much worse.

TheGameguru wrote:

I'm still not sure how replacement refs blowing calls will lead to someone getting hurt?? Kinda a bizzare jump in logic. Players get hurt in every game.. even with the regular refs.. are injuries up significantly from last year this time?

I think it's implying they are letting cheap shots and lots of after the play activity go. Also they are letting players yell at each other and the refs which is driving tensions higher and higher during the game.

I have to wonder how Robert Kraft is feeling after watching the Patriots lose in that pit of ref-sucking that happened last night. I mean, the refs were terrible both ways, but that late holding call on McCourty when he wasn't even touching the WR was the big game-changer, and I wonder if Kraft is kicking himself for not pushing harder for a settlement (after all, he was the big conciliation with the NFLPA during that lockout).