System Shock 2 rated best single-player FPS ever?

TheGameguru wrote:

ahh...but do you know why it runs at that resolution even though its an old game?

BECAUSE CHRIS TAYLOR IS GOD

IMAGE(http://archive.gamespy.com/articles/march02/top30/images/taylors.jpg)

AND SO DREAMY

Is that why GameGuru? If so I may have to try out TA and see what the fuss is about.

Actually I rather prefered Jedi Academy. The nonstop jump out and scare you FPS's are less my cup of tea. I guess these can really be called 3rd person shooters. Advent Rising is in the same vein as Jedi Academy except with vehicles. (albiet limited missions involving them)

The question is whether its better than HL2. HL2 was amazing its a shame that the steam stuff made the accesibility cumbersome. Im sure I would have enjoyed it much longer had I been able to make custom levels for it. Yes I know you can make custom levels with the built in tools. I love Worldcraft/Hammer above all else as an editor. However, Steams cumbersome automated directory pathing and configuration for the editor and mods in general left me at a loss.

Doom3 was easy enough since I could import the dozens of maps I made for Quake 1/2. But they changed the size of the main character in Doom3 so all my levels felt claustrophobic. Also the lighting changed so dramatically that there were no inbetweens from pitch black to ultra over bright with imported lights. And no Im not much a fan for D3radiant and its derivatives.

Dont worry, Im not mentioning Doom3 for its consideration for best FPS.

I liked Duke3D a lot.

Played the HELL out of some Descent back in college (over Kali, no less).

I also really liked Blood. Blood 2 sucked giant turd shaped rocks, but the original was loads of fun. My roommate and I used to play co-op in the demo, against the gargoyle 'bosses', on the hardest difficulty. Man, that was fun.

MAAARINAAAAA

Haha, yeah, Blood was great and funny too. Blood 2 lost all the style of the original.

Haha, yeah, Blood was great and funny too. Blood 2 lost all the style of the original.

I remember being all excited when Blood2 was about to come out. Then the demo hit the net. I downloaded it, played for about 10 minutes, quit, and uninstalled it in disgust.

What a letdown!

The only thing I remember from Blood 2 was when our brave protaganist said in kind of a cool voice "It's Howdy Doody time, kiddies"... or something to that effect. I repeated that at work a few times whenever a customer famed for orneriness paged in - much to the confusion of my coworkers.

System Shock 2 vs. Half Life 2 - Half Life 2 had moments of inspiration that left me amazed, namely the isolation and feelings of unassailable despair in the desert... and the rather Tremors-esque jumping from debris to debris to avoid the twiddle bugs (whatever those leaper bugs were called... can't remember the official name). A sense of the desloation and devastation wrought by the invading aliens was never so pervasive as it was there for me.

Still... those audio logs in System Shock 2... those monkeys.... Fallout 2 and System Shock 2 are the only games ever that have warranted a full replay from me over my gaming life, so I still have to give the nod to System Shock 2. Plus, System Shock 2 was Steam-free, earning it an extra tasty teaspoon of nostalgic happy-goodness.

Puce Moose wrote:

... those monkeys....

Screw those guys. Oh, you've triggered a camera by peeking around a corner twice? Lets send half a dozen monkeys after you flinging cryokinetic death at you (of which I catch about 2/3 of them) while you stumble around this new section of the ship you haven't learned where the security panel is yet, waiting out the 90 (or is it 120) seconds of alarm hiding in a sideroom hoping none of them find you so you don't exhaust your ammo.

And screw this guy for putting them in, that is, unless he wants to throw someone else under the bus for putting them in. The next time he shows his face on these boards he'll get a belated chilly reception too.

SS2 is what I would call pleasantly hard.

Scratched wrote:
Puce Moose wrote:

... those monkeys....

Screw those guys. Oh, you've triggered a camera by peeking around a corner twice? Lets send half a dozen monkeys after you flinging cryokinetic death at you (of which I catch about 2/3 of them) while you stumble around this new section of the ship you haven't learned where the security panel is yet, waiting out the 90 (or is it 120) seconds of alarm hiding in a sideroom hoping none of them find you so you don't exhaust your ammo.

And screw this guy for putting them in, that is, unless he wants to throw someone else under the bus for putting them in. The next time he shows his face on these boards he'll get a belated chilly reception too.

SS2 is what I would call pleasantly hard.

Best.. game.. evar.

Oh dear god I forgot about the spiders. I just saw the cutscene in Engineering B and at the end there's the skittering sound (like they make in Thief) and you can look down to see them. I'm not looking forward to those poisonous critters, and that's saying something as I've just entered the bit with those droids, who just want to help, and I've got f-all ammo...

It's interesting really looking at SS2 with modern eyes. For a while I thought it really lacked action, 99% of the time there's not a lot going on with few enemies, who are pretty dumb, so you can easily get them around corners or mess with the AI. The high balance and lethality give it that edge, the complexity (but not over-complexity) of managing inventory/looting give you more to think about than shooting your way to the next objective. I'm back in the habit of looting broken weapons and unloading them, then discarding them just as much as I am pressing H for a heal hypo now.

Tanglebones wrote:

Best.. game.. evar.

...Is Deus Ex, but SS2 is up there.

Argh... I was hoping the thread necromancy was a GOG announcement... Bummer.

L-L-little ones need a lot of care

And you need a lot of bullets.

Scratched wrote:

The next time he shows his face on these boards he'll get a belated chilly reception too.

Very belated. I mean, a 7 year necro? Really?

[size=8]Did I miss a spam post or something? Or is this possibly the oldest semi-legitimate necro in Goodjer history?[/size]

Just a necro, because I'm playing it and felt a need to share my monkey hate.