OS X Mountain Lion announced

Hypatian wrote:

ibdoomed: Are you sure you need additional codes? Mac OS X has always been on the honor system for multiple-machine installations.

Technically the software will install but I must be thoroughly legal with licensing, and one of them is server anyway.

Right. I was suggesting that they may not be sending additional codes, because the codes are not equivalent to licenses. You'd hope they'd say something if that was the case, but... dunno.

Hypatian wrote:

Right. I was suggesting that they may not be sending additional codes, because the codes are not equivalent to licenses. You'd hope they'd say something if that was the case, but... dunno.

Interesting thought. I'll double check with my apple rep.

I think the terms is up to 5 or 10 Macs are allowed but Apple doesn't do anything to stop you from putting it on 1000 computers.

Rykin wrote:

I think the terms is up to 5 or 10 Macs are allowed but Apple doesn't do anything to stop you from putting it on 1000 computers.

Well, this is business, and apple hates us, so I'll wait for something in writing from an authoritative source (Cartman doesn't count).

Speak of the devil. As I was typing that, I got the other sets of emails with two more copies of ML and one copy of server.

Yay!

/boggle

You can't download (notice I did not say INSTALL) server on anything but mountain lion. I don't like putting my server on the internet.... sigh. Well, F you apple. I'll download it to my mbp and copy it to the server, so there!

Gravey wrote:
duckideva wrote:

So..of course, I just bought my first mac yesterday. (Macbook Air). Theoretically, I should get a free upgrade. Should I upgrade?

(I'm still figuring out this silly thing. I hate how "closed garden" it is. Jesus, I could have rewritten the tcp/ip stack on a real computer in a quarter of the time to it took to get this one to accept a corrected wep key. Of course, I was already annoyed because of being immersed in the cloud of iSmug that permeates the Apple Store. )

Honestly, it sounds like you should return it and get something else you'll enjoy using.

Xcode doesn't run natively on anything but an Apple box. I'm sure once I figure out how to get behind/around the UI, I'll be less annoyed. The urge to nuke the iStore from space has already mellowed into seething disdain. Soon, I'll be back to casual indifference. I did get my upgrade key, but I'm probably going to not doing anything until after I get back from the week where I need the mac to run everything I've already installed.

I just don't like it when anyone/anything thinks they know what's best for me, and thus tries to stop me from doing something stupid. I'm a firm believer in learning by doing stupid stuff.

Also; my computer is not the boss of me, and the sooner it learns that, the happier we're all gonna be.

Yeah, it sounded like there was a reason beyond your control that meant you had to use OS X. Good luck and hope you have fun getting a handle on it. Also, and honestly, try to separate your feelings about any perceived attitudes attached to the brand, from the hardware and software itself, and you'll be a lot better off.

If you're talking about GateKeeper, it can be disabled in System Settings. In fact, that's pretty much the first thing I did after upgrading because it blocked me from running Charles Proxy. It might help to think of OSX as just another flavor of Unix. Download something like MacPorts and don't bother with the app store.

It boggles my mind that they still haven't fixed some very basic things. For instance; when your password begins with a capital and the screensaver kicks in, you can't just press and hold shift and begin typing. You have to release shift and press it again, or move the mouse, or press some other key.

At least they did fix the 'reopen windows' checkbox so it's not always checked upon restarting/shutdown. That was extremely annoying since typically the only time you shutdown/restart a mac is when there's a problem.

duckideva wrote:

I'm sure once I figure out how to get behind/around the UI, I'll be less annoyed.

Take a look at this: "~/.osx: Sensible hacker defaults for OS X Mountain Lion"

It is a list of OS customizing options, presented as an executable script. Don't execute the whole script, just read through it to see what's possible, and then you can pick and choose lines to put into your own script, or just copy-paste individual lines into a terminal window.

Also, replace the stock Terminal app with iTerm.

Also, install Homebrew.

Also, if you like the ability to do some basic window tiling, SizeUp is so worth the $13.

ibdoomed wrote:

It boggles my mind that they still haven't fixed some very basic things. For instance; when your password begins with a capital and the screensaver kicks in, you can't just press and hold shift and begin typing. You have to release shift and press it again, or move the mouse, or press some other key.

Windows 7 does the exact same thing to me at work 9 times out of 10.

Good call on Homebrew. The stuff I've installed with it so far actually works, unlike MacPorts.

Rykin wrote:
ibdoomed wrote:

It boggles my mind that they still haven't fixed some very basic things. For instance; when your password begins with a capital and the screensaver kicks in, you can't just press and hold shift and begin typing. You have to release shift and press it again, or move the mouse, or press some other key.

Windows 7 does the exact same thing to me at work 9 times out of 10.

Strange. I don't use a screensaver, just the lock screen and the only reason I use screensaver on mac is because they have such terrible security and there is no lock screen. Anyway, my lock screen just sits and waits for my password, does your resort to the crtl-alt-del? I think that's a gpo setting. So I tried turning the screensaver on just now, with the checkbox for 'on resume, display logon screen' and then I waited for the screensaver to kick in. Once it did, I simply typed my password, press and hold shift, password, enter, bingo I'm logged back in. W8 works the same way too.

I usually have to wake it up and then CAD and then type my password. But yea we have some annoying group policies here.

ibdoomed wrote:

Strange. I don't use a screensaver, just the lock screen and the only reason I use screensaver on mac is because they have such terrible security and there is no lock screen.

Mrh? WTF are you talking about? Go to Users & Groups control panel, under Login Options, set: Automatic login: Off, Show fast user switching menu: (your choice). Any time after that, click fast user switching menu in upper right, choose "Login Window...". Voila, your machine is locked. For bonus points, you might want to also configure Guest User to not be able to log in (although they should be in a sandbox when they do log in).

Oh here is a script to lock the screen on a Mac:

tell application "Finder" to do shell script "/System/Library/CoreServices/Menu\\ Extras/User.menu/Contents/Resources/CGSession -suspend"

Paste that into Applescript and then use whatever you like to launch it. I use iKey with it set to Command+Control+L so that it mirrors the Windows one. Now I haven't tested it on Mountain Lion but it has worked for many revisions so far including Lion. You don't even have to have the Users menu extra running for this to work.

P.S. if you don't want to run it as an Applescript you can trim out those bits and do it via shell scripting.

I guess those two options are a lot easier than sliding my mouse into the lower left corner.

ibdoomed wrote:

I guess those two options are a lot easier than sliding my mouse into the lower left corner.

I used to use hot corners but got tired of triggering stuff by accident. And I have been a keyboard shortcut junkie since I first started using the Mac back in the 90's.