[trailer] Avengers! My day is made

ccesarano wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:

They're changing Thor's costume for the next film:

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Hammer --> Butt?

Spoiler:

The hammer is her penis.

NathanialG wrote:

I love the idea of Idris Elba for Black Panther.
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/05/who...

Hell, I'd be happy even if they cast him as the Wasp. Idris Elba rules.

I think Spiderman and the Wolverine are a givens for future Avengers movies. How they handle those characters in the upcoming films will make or break the story.

Tangent: I wonder if Whedon will revist Goners. I was on tenterhooks to find out what that project was about for quite a while.

heavyfeul wrote:

I think Spiderman and the Wolverine are a givens for future Avengers movies. How they handle those characters in the upcoming films will make or break the story.

I don't know if you've been following this thread, but those characters are already owned by other studios, and cannot appear in Marvel films.

El-Taco-the-Rogue wrote:
NathanialG wrote:

I love the idea of Idris Elba for Black Panther.
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/05/who...

Hell, I'd be happy even if they cast him as the Wasp. Idris Elba rules.

Idris Elba already has a role in the Avengers continuum as Heimdall.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
El-Taco-the-Rogue wrote:
NathanialG wrote:

I love the idea of Idris Elba for Black Panther.
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/05/who...

Hell, I'd be happy even if they cast him as the Wasp. Idris Elba rules.

Idris Elba already has a role in the Avengers continuum as Heimdall.

I know. I dont see that being a major conflict.

ClockworkHouse wrote:
El-Taco-the-Rogue wrote:
NathanialG wrote:

I love the idea of Idris Elba for Black Panther.
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/05/who...

Hell, I'd be happy even if they cast him as the Wasp. Idris Elba rules.

Idris Elba already has a role in the Avengers continuum as Heimdall.

Oh yeh, I forgot 'cause I skipped Thor.

...They should put Heimdall in the next Avengers film.

NathanialG wrote:

I know. I dont see that being a major conflict.

They just seem to have taken great pains with the continuity between actors and roles. I could see Elba being replaced by someone else but not him stepping into another role in the same series.

El-Taco-the-Rogue wrote:

...They should put Idris Elba in everything.

FTFY

ClockworkHouse wrote:
NathanialG wrote:

I know. I dont see that being a major conflict.

They just seem to have taken great pains with the continuity between actors and roles. I could see Elba being replaced by someone else but not him stepping into another role in the same series.

They could issue a special dispensation for awesomeness.

El-Taco-the-Rogue wrote:
heavyfeul wrote:

I think Spiderman and the Wolverine are a givens for future Avengers movies. How they handle those characters in the upcoming films will make or break the story.

I don't know if you've been following this thread, but those characters are already owned by other studios, and cannot appear in Marvel films.

That will be a problem, I think. Spiderman and Wolverine are two super heroes that are a part of popular culture. It is the icons that really get people excited.

heavyfeul wrote:
El-Taco-the-Rogue wrote:
heavyfeul wrote:

I think Spiderman and the Wolverine are a givens for future Avengers movies. How they handle those characters in the upcoming films will make or break the story.

I don't know if you've been following this thread, but those characters are already owned by other studios, and cannot appear in Marvel films.

That will be a problem, I think. Spiderman and Wolverine are two super heroes that are a part of popular culture. It is the icons that really get people excited.

Fox owns the rights to everything mutant in the Marvel Universe. So that makes even bringing Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver into an Avengers movie problematic, as in, litigious.

That means, no Storm, Wolverine, Namor, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Beast, or Firestar.

Same thing with Spiderman, which Warner Brothers has the rights to. They are busy rebooting the franchise, doubt they want Marvel screwing with that. That means Venom is probably out too.

There's a lot left to work with: Vision, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Ant Man, The Wasp, Wonder Man, Spider Woman, Ms. Marvel, Hercules, Nova, Doctor Strange...if they can't come up with additional Avengers out of that, they aren't trying!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the next Avengers movie will have more diversity, with Wasp and Black Panther rounding out the team.

I want the guy that did Black Dynamite to do an Iron Fist and Luke Cage movie.
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Well, Joss wants more female heroes, so I vote for Monica Rambeau. After all, the next goal has to be to start building towards a Nextwave movie, right?

This is the first movie I've seen more than once in the theatre in a very long time. Carried it just fine, if you're wondering.

Alien Love Gardener wrote:

Well, Joss wants more female heroes, so I vote for Monica Rambeau. After all, the next goal has to be to start building towards a Nextwave movie, right?

Oh man, a Joss Whedon directed Nextwave movie would be just about the best thing ever.

mateo wrote:
heavyfeul wrote:
El-Taco-the-Rogue wrote:
heavyfeul wrote:

I think Spiderman and the Wolverine are a givens for future Avengers movies. How they handle those characters in the upcoming films will make or break the story.

I don't know if you've been following this thread, but those characters are already owned by other studios, and cannot appear in Marvel films.

That will be a problem, I think. Spiderman and Wolverine are two super heroes that are a part of popular culture. It is the icons that really get people excited.

Fox owns the rights to everything mutant in the Marvel Universe. So that makes even bringing Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver into an Avengers movie problematic, as in, litigious.

That means, no Storm, Wolverine, Namor, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Beast, or Firestar.

Same thing with Spiderman, which Warner Brothers has the rights to. They are busy rebooting the franchise, doubt they want Marvel screwing with that. That means Venom is probably out too.

There's a lot left to work with: Vision, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Ant Man, The Wasp, Wonder Man, Spider Woman, Ms. Marvel, Hercules, Nova, Doctor Strange...if they can't come up with additional Avengers out of that, they aren't trying!

True, but I am already disappointed. Minor Avenger characters have no appeal to me. I would have been fine without Black Widow and Hawkeye. They were well done, but they could have put two other characters there and I would not have cared. I saw the Avengers for Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor.

There a lot of adult comic fans who know this sh*t like the gospel. Most of us stopped reading comics as teenagers, so all we have are the icons we grew up. We feel a kinship to them the minute they walk on screen. That is powerful. Take away those major iconic characters and the story losses something big in my opinion.

Let me put it this way...Black Widow and Haweye never elicited a single cheer or tear. The superhero icons did, embarassingly, quite a bit. The big characters I mention are more than comic characters, they are American myths. There may be a host of characters to choose from, but Spiderman and Wolverine cannot be replaced.

I want Spidey and Logan in the Avengers.

I want the guy that did Black Dynamite to do an Iron Fist and Luke Cage movie.

I would friggin love to see an Iron Fist movie. Just keep Ray Park the hell away from it, I want someone who actually knows how to act, not just punch people through the sternum.

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heavyfeul wrote:
mateo wrote:
heavyfeul wrote:
El-Taco-the-Rogue wrote:
heavyfeul wrote:

I think Spiderman and the Wolverine are a givens for future Avengers movies. How they handle those characters in the upcoming films will make or break the story.

I don't know if you've been following this thread, but those characters are already owned by other studios, and cannot appear in Marvel films.

That will be a problem, I think. Spiderman and Wolverine are two super heroes that are a part of popular culture. It is the icons that really get people excited.

Fox owns the rights to everything mutant in the Marvel Universe. So that makes even bringing Scarlet Witch or Quicksilver into an Avengers movie problematic, as in, litigious.

That means, no Storm, Wolverine, Namor, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Beast, or Firestar.

Same thing with Spiderman, which Warner Brothers has the rights to. They are busy rebooting the franchise, doubt they want Marvel screwing with that. That means Venom is probably out too.

There's a lot left to work with: Vision, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Black Panther, Ant Man, The Wasp, Wonder Man, Spider Woman, Ms. Marvel, Hercules, Nova, Doctor Strange...if they can't come up with additional Avengers out of that, they aren't trying!

True, but I am already disappointed. Minor Avenger characters have no appeal to me. I would have been fine without Black Widow and Hawkeye. They were well done, but they could have put two other characters there and I would not have cared. I saw the Avengers for Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor.

There a lot of adult comic fans who know this sh*t like the gospel. Most of us stopped reading comics as teenagers, so all we have are the icons we grew up. We feel a kinship to them the minute they walk on screen. That is powerful. Take away those major iconic characters and the story losses something big in my opinion.

Let me put it this way...Black Widow and Haweye never elicited a single cheer or tear. The superhero icons did, embarassingly, quite a bit. The big characters I mention are more than comic characters, they are American myths. There may be a host of characters to choose from, but Spiderman and Wolverine cannot be replaced.

I want Spidey and Logan in the Avengers.

They may be icons, but their big moments still have to be earned by the story, otherwise it'll just be a shallow regurgitation of iconography with no meaning or resonance (say hi Norton's Hulk!).

Going into this whole Avengers build-up, the only character I had any more than a passing familiarity with was Hulk, and in a post-Bush world, a character called Captain America had gone from a quaint anachronism to mildly repellent. The good movies still made me care about them, simply by being good movies. There's nothing saying they can't do what they did for the uninitiated with the Avengers for lapsed comic geeks with the minor characters.

Besides, Hawkeye and Black Widow serve the story by being more human anchors for the action, thereby emphazising the outlandish feats of the other Avengers. Having them get worn down, panicked and overwhelmed makes the Hulk tearing through everything even more awesome. They're not really meant to bring in the big cheers.

(Although I did cheer quite a bit when Black Widow pwned Loki at his own mindgame.)

Finally saw it yesterday and enjoyed it of course.

Earlier in the thread some people were arguing that Hawkeye and Black Widow were unnecessary but I don't think they are true. Every combatant does not have super powers and they are pretty bad arse on their own terms. Also, I like Jeremy Renner as an action guy, I think he pulls it off real well.

I think the final battle was well done, it was extremely realistic and did not look cheesy at all.

The Hulk transition did seem quick and we'll have to see if some ended up on the cutting room floor.

I hope Maria Hill gets more stuff in the next movie cause she seemed pretty bad arse as well.

About the death, I think he made a good point that they needed something to unify them. Up till them, any deaths were people they were not familiar with. He always seemed like a constant for the audience and the top players. Suddenly he is gone due to Loki and that death so close to them really hits them.

I really hope they don't add too many new people to the next Avengers movie unless they take away some of the characters in this one. There is only so much screen time you can give each character and the villains in 2-2.5 hour movie.

As for Black Widow, they gave her some of the best scenes in the movie.

Spoiler:

Hawkeye spent most of the movie as a villain, so it's no surprise he didn't have much time to bond withe audience or do anything particularly cool.

More Film Crit Hulk on Avengers, paraphrasing the real title, which doesn't sound right:

AVENGERS IS JOSH WHEDON MOVIE. LET HULK COUNT THE WAYS.

(he's actually even less in Hulk voice than usual here, but he certainly hasn't forgotten the caps. )

Finally saw it! It was awesome! But forget about the Giant Flying Worms - I was battling my own gargantuan SuperVillian:

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the leviathan 86-ounce Cherry Coke which I foolishly bought because I had a coupon. This dastardly drink forced me to run to the Men's Lounge again and again and miss many choice Whedon-isms.

I will have to bravely return to the Cineplex to face down this foe... after a daylong fluid fast. And no coupons.

heavyfeul wrote:

True, but I am already disappointed. Minor Avenger characters have no appeal to me. I would have been fine without Black Widow and Hawkeye. They were well done, but they could have put two other characters there and I would not have cared. I saw the Avengers for Cap, Iron Man, Hulk, and Thor.

There a lot of adult comic fans who know this sh*t like the gospel. Most of us stopped reading comics as teenagers, so all we have are the icons we grew up. We feel a kinship to them the minute they walk on screen. That is powerful. Take away those major iconic characters and the story losses something big in my opinion.

Let me put it this way...Black Widow and Haweye never elicited a single cheer or tear. The superhero icons did, embarassingly, quite a bit. The big characters I mention are more than comic characters, they are American myths. There may be a host of characters to choose from, but Spiderman and Wolverine cannot be replaced.

I want Spidey and Logan in the Avengers.

I would be fine with some Spidey cameos in NYC, but unless we get some X-Men vs Avengers I don't want to see Wolverine. He is probably the most over used character ever.

In hindsight, after seeing the mid-credits scene, the whole invasion of Earth was just some dude trying to impress a chick.

Avengers. Bunch of c*ck blockers.

Who do you want to see in the next film? After watching Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, I really want to see Black Panther and Ant Man. I really loved their characters in the cartoon.

Ant Man and Wasp.

Ideally? Ms. Marvel, Wonder Man, Black Panther, a decent version of the Fantastic Four, and some Kree/Skrull warring.

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Avengers Disassemble!

Tanglebones wrote:

Ideally? Ms. Marvel, Wonder Man, Black Panther, a decent version of the Fantastic Four, and some Kree/Skrull warring.

I don't think you will see the Fantastic Four in an Avengers film anytime soon because Marvel doesn't own the movie rights to them. Same reason you will not see Spider Man is because Sony owns the rights to his movies.