Why is George Zimmerman allowed to roam free tonight?

rosenhane wrote:
Malor wrote:
How does she know that he was approached versus him approaching someone else?

Because Zimmerman started out in the car. The ONLY way that this confrontation could have transpired is if Zimmerman got out of his car and instigated it.

You're making up fantasy scenarios that don't vaguely fit the facts.

Zimmerman had every legal right to exit his vehicle. And I doubt the older, heavier Zimmerman ran down the athletic young football player on foot. Unless he dragged Martin behind the building, Martin was ahead of Zimmerman when Zimmerman lost sight of Martin.

Zimmerman would have known the area much better than Martin, he could have tried to cut Martin off, thought he lost him, then ran into him again. Martin could have lost his bearings while running, and either ran into Zimmerman or had Zimmerman catch up while trying to reacquire them. Keep in mind that while Zimmerman initially agreed to make his way back to the mailboxes, he ultimately decided not to and told the dispatcher to have the cops call him when they got on the scene. By the time they got there, he had already killed Martin.
Zimmerman may have had every legal right to exit the vehicle, but that's still the starting point for this confrontation. Martin had every legal right to be walking from the store to his father's fiancée's house and I would say Martin's right to walk at night and not be harassed trumps Zimmerman's right to investigate someone he deems suspicious. Zimmerman also had two opportunities to prevent the confrontation (when the 911 dispatcher told him they didn't need him to follow Martin, and when they suggested he wait for the cops at the mailboxes), but he did anyway. In fairness, the dispatcher never explicitly told him not to follow Martin, which is a failing on their part.

Didn't you say on page 23 that the only difference between John McNeil and Zimmerman was that McNeil is serving life?

I just went and checked, and no, I didn't say that.

Zimmerman wasn't on his property, he was on a public street. He HAD to instigate the conflict, because he was in his car. He had no reason to confront or pursue Martin, who was just as entitled to be on the street as anyone else. Had Zimmerman simply not pursued Martin, there would have been no death.

In fairness, the dispatcher never explicitly told him not to follow Martin, which is a failing on their part.

"We don't need you to do that" isn't quite a command, but I don't think dispatchers are allowed to give commands, are they?

Reaper81 wrote:

Why should I do a story about you?

Cos he's so f*ckin' good.

Malor wrote:

"We don't need you to do that" isn't quite a command, but I don't think dispatchers are allowed to give commands, are they?

I'm not sure. He was talking to whoever was manning the station's non-emergency line though, not a 9-1-1 dispatcher (nearly every article I've seen referencing it calls it a "9-1-1 call," probably because it was released along with the 9-1-1 calls that the witnesses made, but he reported Martin on the non-emergency number, not 9-1-1.), and they don't have any thing about dispatcher guidelines or rules on their website.

Jayhawker wrote:

I thin at this point we are better off letting the interested parties do their thing. Zimmerman's attorneys and the prosecutors have access to more evidence than rosenhane or any of us can ferret out by scrubbing the internet, as well as a much better context to put it in.

What we can find now will either be used in trial, found to be irrelevant, or ruled inadmissible. That how the system works. And that's all we really wanted. It definitely needed the public to jumpstart the courts, but we've got ignition now.

I have opinions on Zimmerman's guilt, but they are based on a lot less information than the interested parties. I'm not sure there is really anything to argue abut anymore.

This is so perfect and well stated that I have nothing to say. Pretty much matches my thoughts over the past few pages.

Vector wrote:

This is so perfect and well stated that I have nothing to say. Pretty much matches my thoughts over the past few pages.

Thanks. Except for the darn typos I left. I really am the king of them.

I think at this point we are better off letting the interested parties do their thing. Zimmerman's attorneys and the prosecutors have access to more evidence than rosenhane or any of us can ferret out by scrubbing the internet, as well as a much better context to put it in.

What we can find now will either be used in trial, found to be irrelevant, or ruled inadmissible. That's how the system works. And that's all we really wanted. It definitely needed the public to jumpstart the courts, but we've got ignition now.

I have opinions on Zimmerman's guilt, but they are based on a lot less information than the interested parties. I'm not sure there is really anything to argue about anymore.

Stengah, Just look at the complex layout with regards to what you have said. Also here in Minneapolis non emergency and 9-1-1 calls go to the same place from a landline. 9-1-1 calls from cell phones going to the state patrol, who then hand the call off to the local PDs. It could be that the non emergency and the 9-1-1 calls are the same people, so I'm not sure the distinction between the two has any relevance to the case.

Honestly I'm inclined to agree with Jayhawker at this point and suspend the subject until the actual trial evidence is seen. Personally I'm interested in the phone, specifically if it was on or off when the police recovered it, if it was damaged by the shot. The crime scene photos, specifically any blood on the ground that couldn't be attributed to Martins wound (i.e. if Zimmerman was bleeding at the time of the shot). Also I'd love to hear if the audio experts can say it was Martins voice on the 9-1-1 call, versus saying that it was unlikely to be Zimmermans. Also where Zimmermans truck was parked.

So what pieces of evidence are you guys looking forward to seeing? What would change your mind? What would remove any doubts?

rosenhane wrote:

Stengah, Just look at the complex layout with regards to what you have said. Also here in Minneapolis non emergency and 9-1-1 calls go to the same place from a landline. 9-1-1 calls from cell phones going to the state patrol, who then hand the call off to the local PDs. It could be that the non emergency and the 9-1-1 calls are the same people, so I'm not sure the distinction between the two has any relevance to the case.

Honestly I'm inclined to agree with Jayhawker at this point and suspend the subject until the actual trial evidence is seen. Personally I'm interested in the phone, specifically if it was on or off when the police recovered it, if it was damaged by the shot. The crime scene photos, specifically any blood on the ground that couldn't be attributed to Martins wound (i.e. if Zimmerman was bleeding at the time of the shot). Also I'd love to hear if the audio experts can say it was Martins voice on the 9-1-1 call, versus saying that it was unlikely to be Zimmermans. Also where Zimmermans truck was parked.

So what pieces of evidence are you guys looking forward to seeing? What would change your mind? What would remove any doubts?

Is it possible to even gather that phone and blood evidence anymore? I've been under the impression they didn't gather much evidence in the first place so I wonder how well that will go.

rosenhane wrote:

Stengah, Just look at the complex layout with regards to what you have said. Also here in Minneapolis non emergency and 9-1-1 calls go to the same place from a landline. 9-1-1 calls from cell phones going to the state patrol, who then hand the call off to the local PDs. It could be that the non emergency and the 9-1-1 calls are the same people, so I'm not sure the distinction between the two has any relevance to the case.

I've looked at the layout, and I don't see how Martin would have intercepted Zimmerman if Zimmerman was actually heading back to his truck to meet the police at the mailboxes unless Martin started chasing after him, which according to his girlfriend, didn't happen.
The non-emergency vs 9-1-1 thing was just bugging me, and has no real relevance other than being another example of how the media is causing more confusion. Frankly I would have been surprised if Zimmerman reported Martin to 9-1-1, as he called the non-emergency number for all the other times he reported things he thought were suspicious.

So what pieces of evidence are you guys looking forward to seeing? What would change your mind? What would remove any doubts?

Regardless of the verdict, I'd like Florida to severely revise it's Stand-Your-Ground law, and the Sanford PD and DA office to clean house. There's pretty much nothing that would change my mind as to Zimmerman's guilt short of a video of Martin starting the fight unprovoked.

Even if Martin did actually attack him -- he was being stalked by a creepy guy with no real authority to do anything. He had the right to stand his ground, too.

In related news, Florida woman sentenced to 20 years in controversial warning shot case

Saying he had no discretion under state law, a judge sentenced a Jacksonville, Florida, woman to 20 years in prison Friday for firing a warning shot in an effort to scare off her abusive husband.

Marissa Alexander unsuccessfully tried to use Florida's controversial "stand your ground" law to derail the prosecution, but a jury in March convicted her of aggravated assault after just 12 minutes of deliberation.

The case, which was prosecuted by the same state attorney who is handling the Trayvon Martin case, has gained the attention of civil rights leaders who say the African-American woman was persecuted because of her race.

Maq wrote:
Reaper81 wrote:

Why should I do a story about you?

Cos he's so f*ckin' good.

Ain't war hell?

I luv you guys.

Medical documents relating to Zimmerman were released today and I have to say they provide as many questions as answers:

A medical report compiled by the family physician of accused Trayvon Martin murderer George Zimmerman and obtained exclusively by ABC News found that Zimmerman was diagnosed with a "closed fracture" of his nose, a pair of black eyes, two lacerations to the back of his head and a minor back injury the day after he fatally shot Martin during an alleged altercation.

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The morning after the shooting, on Feb. 27, Zimmerman sought treatment at the offices of a general physician at a family practice near Sanford, Fla. The doctor notes Zimmerman sought an appointment to get legal clearance to return to work.

The record shows that Zimmerman also suffered bruising in the upper lip and cheek and lower back pain. The two lacerations on the back of his head, one of them nearly an inch long, the other about a quarter-inch long, were first revealed in photos obtained exclusively by ABC News last month.

But the report also shows Zimmerman declined hospitalization the night of the shooting, and then declined the advice of his doctor to make a follow-up appointment with an ear nose and throat doctor.

In addition to his physical injuries, Zimmerman complained of stress and "occasional nausea when thinking about the violence." But he was not diagnosed with a concussion. The doctor noted that it was "imperative" that Zimmerman "be seen with [sic] his psychologist for evaluation."

According to the report, prior to the shooting Zimmerman had been prescribed Adderall and Temazepam, medications that can cause side effects such as agitation and mood swings, but in fewer than 10 percent of patients.

A few observations:

1. According to reports from Zimmerman's family, Martin was "pounding" his head onto the pavement, and yet, no concussion.

2. Zimmerman, after (allegedly) having the crap beat out of him refuses to go to the hospital and then makes an appointment the next day to see a doctor for a work release note.

3. Zimmerman, after (allegedly) having the crap beat out of him doesn't, upon his doctor's advice, seek follow up treatment.

4. We still have the video of him less than one hour after the incident. He has no bandages, no bloody shirt, no ice pack, and certainly doesn't need assistance getting out of the cruiser and walking into the police station.

And, unbeknownst to almost everyone until now, Zimmerman was on Adderall and Temazepam.

Curiouser and curiouser.

2. Zimmerman, after (allegedly) having the crap beat out of him refuses to go to the hospital and then makes an appointment the next day to see a doctor for a work release note.

3. Zimmerman, after (allegedly) having the crap beat out of him doesn't, upon his doctor's advice, seek follow up treatment.

In all fairness, the doctor's report shows Zimmerman suffered some pretty serious injuries, and that his nose was indeed broken. Now, he probably was never actually about to die but he could make a plausible case that he felt his life was in danger. Unless of course you can prove the doctor was lying, which is going to be hard to prove.

At this point, I think it's going to be really tough to convict Zimmerman. He can prove that he was legitimately attacked, and it's his word against a dead kid's about who threw the first punch or what set off the fight.

And

, unbeknownst to almost everyone until now, Zimmerman was on Adderall and Temazepam.

Well, this could be a factor and on the other hand it may mean nothing.

I realize things are a lot different in the state of Florida, but I'm pretty sure that in the state of Maryland it would be very difficult to maintain a concealed firearms license whilst on Adderall and Temazepam.

jdzappa wrote:

In all fairness, the doctor's report shows Zimmerman suffered some pretty serious injuries, and that his nose was indeed broken. Now, he probably was never actually about to die but he could make a plausible case that he felt his life was in danger. Unless of course you can prove the doctor was lying, which is going to be hard to prove.

At this point, I think it's going to be really tough to convict Zimmerman. He can prove that he was legitimately attacked, and it's his word against a dead kid's about who threw the first punch or what set off the fight.

Actually, Zimmerman just has evidence that he suffered injuries at some point prior to the doctor's appointment the following day. The only person who could prove they were attacked was Trayvon Martin.

I agree with your point that it is probably going to be very tough to convict Zimmerman. That is, in fact, why the shoddy police work that night on the part of the Sanford PD is so maddening. Regardless of whether or not Zimmerman is innocent, the choices the Sanford police made that night may make it impossible for the legal system to effectively determine what actually happened.

The prosecutor must feel the evidence we haven't seen is compelling, given the charges they're pursuing - and, as Jayhawker pointed out, we'll eventually find out what that evidence is, now that the case is in motion.

Dimmerswitch wrote:

The prosecutor must feel the evidence we haven't seen is compelling, given the charges they're pursuing - and, as Jayhawker pointed out, we'll eventually find out what that evidence is, now that the case is in motion.

I think that even if they didn't think they had compelling evidence, they'd still be pursuing charges simply to head off the storm that was brewing.

So are the police claiming Zimmerman had injuries? And if so why didn't they take pictures of them at the time?

Stengah wrote:
Dimmerswitch wrote:

The prosecutor must feel the evidence we haven't seen is compelling, given the charges they're pursuing - and, as Jayhawker pointed out, we'll eventually find out what that evidence is, now that the case is in motion.

I think that even if they didn't think they had compelling evidence, they'd still be pursuing charges simply to head off the storm that was brewing.

My fault for being unclear. I agree that at this point there'd be some kind of charges regardless, but I was referring the fact that the prosecutor is charging Zimmerman with 2nd degree murder, rather than manslaughter - which would be a much lower bar to clear, evidence-wise.

Temazepam is a sleeping pill. I myself have taken it long-term for insomnia.

jdzappa wrote:
2. Zimmerman, after (allegedly) having the crap beat out of him refuses to go to the hospital and then makes an appointment the next day to see a doctor for a work release note.

3. Zimmerman, after (allegedly) having the crap beat out of him doesn't, upon his doctor's advice, seek follow up treatment.

In all fairness, the doctor's report shows Zimmerman suffered some pretty serious injuries, and that his nose was indeed broken. Now, he probably was never actually about to die but he could make a plausible case that he felt his life was in danger. Unless of course you can prove the doctor was lying, which is going to be hard to prove.

jdzappa, the problem with the doctor's report is the span of time between Martin's release from police custody and his visit to the doctor. There's effectively a break in the "chain of custody" of his medical condition.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
jdzappa wrote:
2. Zimmerman, after (allegedly) having the crap beat out of him refuses to go to the hospital and then makes an appointment the next day to see a doctor for a work release note.

3. Zimmerman, after (allegedly) having the crap beat out of him doesn't, upon his doctor's advice, seek follow up treatment.

In all fairness, the doctor's report shows Zimmerman suffered some pretty serious injuries, and that his nose was indeed broken. Now, he probably was never actually about to die but he could make a plausible case that he felt his life was in danger. Unless of course you can prove the doctor was lying, which is going to be hard to prove.

jdzappa, the problem with the doctor's report is the span of time between Martin's release from police custody and his visit to the doctor. There's effectively a break in the "chain of custody" of his medical condition.

He definitely seems like the kind of guy who would realize the trouble he was in and possibly inflict those wounds on himself... although I have been beaten up quite a bit in my hockey career (HA! career lol) and have made some bad decisions on how bad my injuries were at the time. Hell I didn't even know I had torn my ACL and MCL until 2 games after I tried to play on it (thats 2 weeks).

PAR

par wrote:

He definitely seems like the kind of guy who would realize the trouble he was in and possibly inflict those wounds on himself... although I have been beaten up quite a bit in my hockey career (HA! career lol) and have made some bad decisions on how bad my injuries were at the time. Hell I didn't even know I had torn my ACL and MCL until 2 games after I tried to play on it (thats 2 weeks).

PAR

I'm actually having a hard time processing all of this. My first reaction is he absolutely seems like that kind of guy, but what am I basing that on? I'm kind of curious if I'm just experiencing the backfire effect here.

Is there anyone in FL or knows FL law who can shed some light on this:

The doctor notes Zimmerman sought an appointment to get legal clearance to return to work.

The terminology here is rather odd. Zimmerman sought a doctor's note the day after the shooting. What legal clearance is needed to return to work after one day's absence? I know my company requires a note after three days of absence, but that is to make sure that FMLA doesn't have to be activated.

And the idea of a "legal clearance" after one day seems to suggest that he was on some sort of leave (forced by the company or by some statute).

I am not putting it past him working for a company that requires a doctor's note every time you take off just for, say, a sinus headache. However, that is an internal company policy, not a legal requirement.

Phoenix Rev wrote:

Is there anyone in FL or knows FL law who can shed some light on this:

The doctor notes Zimmerman sought an appointment to get legal clearance to return to work.

The terminology here is rather odd. Zimmerman sought a doctor's note the day after the shooting. What legal clearance is needed to return to work after one day's absence? I know my company requires a note after three days of absence, but that is to make sure that FMLA doesn't have to be activated.

And the idea of a "legal clearance" after one day seems to suggest that he was on some sort of leave (forced by the company or by some statute).

I am not putting it past him working for a company that requires a doctor's note every time you take off just for, say, a sinus headache. However, that is an internal company policy, not a legal requirement.

I don't get it either. Typically, don't you get a note from your doctor to get clearance for missing work? Not the other way around?

I gotta admit, frankly, in a lot of ways, i'm already satisfied. All I really wanted out of this was for Florida law enforcement to actually take this case seriously, and do the work. Now, I feel like they have.

I could easily see Trayvon defending himself against someone he felt was an unprovoked aggressor, and I can see Zimmerman acting in what he felt was "self-defense".

Problematically, the reverberations of this case aren't going to break down along less polarizing lines.

Paleocon wrote:

I realize things are a lot different in the state of Florida, but I'm pretty sure that in the state of Maryland it would be very difficult to maintain a concealed firearms license whilst on Adderall and Temazepam.

As Quinten said, these drugs aren't anything to make a big deal out of. Adderall is for ADD, which I am on myself, and Temazepam is for insomnia which Quinten is on. Neither of these disqualify you for a CWL either in FL, or WA, the two states I am most familiar with.

Below is the law in FL and here is a simple quiz you can take to see if you are qualified. For comparison, you can see the WA law here. Also Washington has a breakdown of requirements state-by-state for reciprocity.

FLORIDA CONCEALED WEAPON OR FIREARM LICENSE
BASIC ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND DISQUALIFYING CONDITIONS
RESIDENCY AND AGE REQUIREMENTS
  • You must be at least 21 years of age unless you are a servicemember, as defined in Section 250.01,
    Florida Statutes, or you are a veteran of the United States Armed Forces who was discharged under
    honorable conditions.
  • Unless you are serving overseas in the United States Armed Forces, you must CURRENTLY RESIDE in
    the UNITED STATES (US) AND be a US CITIZEN OR DEEMED A LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENT
    ALIEN by Department of Homeland Security, US Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS). If you are
    serving overseas in the US Armed Forces, submit a copy of your deployment documentation with your
    application. If you are not a US citizen, submit documentation issued by the USCIS proving you are a
    permanent legal resident alien with proof you have resided in the state of residence (as shown on your
    application) for at least 90 consecutive days prior to the date the application is submitted.
    Proof of residence includes, but is not limited to:
    • Monthly utility, telephone, power, or cable bills, which show your name and address.
    • Monthly pay stubs or other documentation from your employer, which show your name and
      address.
    • Monthly credit card statements, which show your name and address.

    YOU MUST BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE COMPETENCY WITH A FIREARM (opens new browser window)
    DISQUALIFYING CRIMES: FELONY CONVICTIONS

  • It is important to understand exactly what the term “felony” means. A “felony” can be defined as any one
    of the following:
    • a criminal offense that is punishable under the laws of this state, or that would be punishable if
      committed in this state, by death or imprisonment in the state penitentiary;
    • a crime in any other state or a crime in the United States which is designated as a felony;
    • or an offense in any other state, territory, or country punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding
      one year.
  • If you have been convicted of a felony in the State of Florida, you will be ineligible unless you have had
    BOTH YOUR CIVIL AND FIREARM RIGHTS RESTORED by the Florida Office of Executive Clemency. If
    the felony conviction occurred in another state, then your civil and firearm rights must have been restored
    by the proper authorities in that jurisdiction, and you must meet all federal requirements.
  • If you have been convicted of a felony under federal law, you are ineligible unless you have either
    RECEIVED A PRESIDENTIAL PARDON or been granted relief from federal firearms disabilities.
  • If you have had adjudication of guilt withheld or imposition of sentence suspended on a felony charge, you
    are ineligible UNLESS THREE YEARS HAVE ELAPSED SINCE PROBATION OR ANY OTHER COURTIMPOSED CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED (or the record has been sealed or expunged).
    DISQUALIFYING CRIMES: MISDEMEANOR VIOLENCE (not domestic violence)
  • You will be disqualified if you have been found guilty of, or had adjudication of guilt withheld for, a
    misdemeanor crime of violence UNLESS THREE YEARS HAVE ELAPSED SINCE PROBATION OR
    ANY OTHER COURT-IMPOSED CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN FULFILLED (or the record has been sealed
    or expunged.) This does not apply to misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence.
    DISQUALIFYING CRIMES: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
  • If you have been convicted of a domestic crime of violence, you will be deemed ineligible unless you can
    show proof of one of the following three conditions:
    • that you have received relief from federal firearms disabilities;
    • that you have received a presidential pardon; or,
    • that a court has sealed or expunged the record.
  • If you have had adjudication of guilt withheld or imposition of sentence suspended on any misdemeanor
    crime of domestic violence, you will be INELIGIBLE for licensure UNLESS THREE YEARS HAVE
    ELAPSED SINCE PROBATION OR ANY OTHER COURT-IMPOSED CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN
    FULFILLED (or the record has been sealed or expunged). DISQUALIFYING CRIMES: JUVENILE OFFENSES
  • If in the State of Florida you have been adjudicated delinquent, or have had adjudication of delinquency
    withheld, for an act that would be a felony if committed by an adult and you are under 24 years of age.
  • If in another state, territory, or country you have been adjudicated delinquent, or have had adjudication of
    delinquency withheld, for an act that would be a felony if committed by an adult and which was punishable
    by imprisonment for a term exceeding 1 year and you are under 24 years of age.
    DISQUALIFYING CRIMES and CONDITIONS: SUBSTANCE AND ALCOHOL ABUSE
    You will be disqualified under any of the following circumstances IF THESE EVENTS OCCURRED WITHIN
    THE THREE YEARS PRIOR TO THE DATE ON WHICH YOU ARE SUBMITTING YOUR APPLICATION:
  • if you have been committed for the abuse of controlled substances; or if you have been found guilty or
    convicted of a crime involving the possession and distribution of controlled substances (violations of
    Chapter 893, Florida Statutes, or similar laws of another state); or if you have had multiple arrests for
    such offenses within the past five years with the most recent arrest occurring within the past year;
  • if you have been committed for the abuse of alcoholic beverages or other substances under the provisions
    of Chapter 397; or if you have been deemed a habitual offender under the provisions of section 856.011(3),
    Florida Statutes, or similar laws of another state; or if you were convicted two or more times for driving
    under the influence of alcohol or a controlled substance (violations of section 316.193, Florida Statutes,
    or similar laws of another).
  • if you have been convicted for using a firearm while under the influence of alcoholic beverages under the
    provisions of section 790.151, Florida Statutes.
    DISQUALIFYING CONDITIONS: MENTAL HEALTH HISTORY
  • If you have been adjudicated incapacitated, adjudicated as a mental defective, or committed to a mental
    institution, you will be deemed ineligible unless you have received a presidential pardon or been granted
    relief from federal firearms disabilities.
    MISCELLANEOUS DISQUALIFYING CONDITIONS
  • If you were dishonorably discharged from military service, you are automatically disqualified from
    eligibility.
  • If you have been issued an injunction that is currently in force that restrains you from committing acts of
    domestic violence or acts of repeat violence, you will be disqualified from eligibility until that injunction is
    no longer in force.
  • If you are a fugitive from justice, you are ineligible.
  • You must not suffer from a physical infirmity that prevents safe handling of a weapon. Development of a
    physical infirmity that prevents the safe handling of a weapon or firearm is sufficient cause for suspension
    or revocation of the license.
  • Section 790.06(2)(m), F.S., makes any person ineligible for a Florida concealed weapon license if he
    is “prohibited from purchasing or possessing a firearm by any other provision of Florida or federal law.”
    This provision allows our Division to deny applications or to revoke/suspend licenses if an applicant or
    licensee is disqualified from owning or possessing firearms under ANY provision of Florida law other
    than those specific disqualifying provisions set forth in section 790.06, F. S. Similarly, this provision also
    allows us to take action against an applicant or licensee who is disqualified from owning or possessing
    firearms as a result of one of the nine federal firearms disabilities set forth in section 922(g) of the Gun
    Control Act.

Autopsy: Drug THC found in Trayvon Martin's system

Dr. Drew Pinsky, an addiction specialist who hosts a show on CNN's sister network HLN, downplayed the findings about the THC blood levels, noting the drug can stay in a person's system for hours, even days.

Not sure what the repercussions of this are. What a f-d up case....

PAR

It'll be used to impugn his character, to make him seem like a Scary Black Male. Zimmerman will probably walk.