I have to say, Dimmer, you changed my mind on this one. Once I get past that initial positive feeling for an asshole getting his due, I do feel that it was overall a negative decision.
You don't win hearts and minds by spitting in faces. A better solution: seat him with a happy, committed gay couple. "Your food today is being prepared by our fabulously flaming head chef, and your waiter today is a gay 19 year old college student. We sincerely hope you enjoy your meal." And then kill him with kindness.
It's much easier to say "Gays are bad people and shouldn't be allowed to marry" than it is to say "Jeff and James are bad people and shouldn't be allowed to marry". Which is why as people know more gay people, they become less and less homophobic and set against gay equality (I don't have any sources on this, just the hope in my heart).
Hooray for reasonable conversation!
Dibs on being the shark.
"Gays are bad people and shouldn't be allowed to marry" than it is to say "Jeff and James are bad people and shouldn't be allowed to marry".
I applaud the idea, but honestly Jeff and James are pricks. We should put our best foot forward here, what about Greg and Gary, those are wonderful people.
kaostheory wrote:"Gays are bad people and shouldn't be allowed to marry" than it is to say "Jeff and James are bad people and shouldn't be allowed to marry".
I applaud the idea, but honestly Jeff and James are pricks. We should put our best foot forward here, what about Greg and Gary, those are wonderful people.
Didn't you hear what Greg did to the Thompson's car? That guy is a dick! But Stuart and Bart are model citizens.
It's much easier to say "Gays are bad people and shouldn't be allowed to marry" than it is to say "Jeff and James are bad people and shouldn't be allowed to marry". Which is why as people know more gay people, they become less and less homophobic and set against gay equality (I don't have any sources on this, just the hope in my heart).
I can't recall any studies off the top of my head, but I'm positive there's been some done on this and you're correct. The more gay folk that people meet, the less likely they're going to remain homophobic.
Also, the more homophobic someone is, the more likely they are to be gay and closeted.
Science is fun!
Also, the more homophobic someone is, the more likely they are to be gay and closeted.
Science is fun!
I know that these studies consistently show this to be true, but every time I hear these claims, the only thing I can think of are Hans and Franz saying to themselves that they must "pummel out" their gay thoughts as they daydream of Patrick Swayze riding a horse shirtless on down a sunny beach.
I was going to make a joke about the guy getting tossed out of the restaurant feeling like his anti-gay stance wasn't a choice. Then I thought about it, and realized that I'd heard about as much from some fundies.
I don't want anymore kids to get confused about what's right and ok either Sarah.
God that's creepy. Just... yuck.
And, in one of the more "bizarre" bits of testimony before the Maryland Legislature regarding gay marriage, a 14-year-old girl wants only one thing for her birthday:
At least we know her parents' homeschooling techniques have given her a firm grasp of how to use fallacies.
I don't want anymore kids to get confused about what's right and ok either Sarah.
God that's creepy. Just... yuck.
Try as I might, can't think that very many married, gay parents would teach their child anything remotely so narrow-minded and borne of hatred (can't say none because crazies come in all varieties, but still, this is certainly provably more evident, simply because of the Christian majority).
Silver lining: that video has 9 "likes" and 304 dislikes on youtube as of me posting this.
So where's the clip of the 14 year old saying all she wants for her birthday is to visit her Mom in the hospital, but she can't because her Mom isn't legally married to her other Mom?
Also, when did the state of Maryland start allowing constitutional law litigation from 14 year olds? I really hate that state sometimes.
Homeschooled in Bowie. That says it all.
Homeschooled in Bowie. That says it all.
I laughed when I heard that and thought the exact same thing.
My children will be homeschooled in Bowie. I don't want them to have to learn about Spiders from Mars on the streets. That's just quality parenting.
The vile National Organization for Marriage has, once again, lost a battle in court to keep its campaign donor list secret. Maine passed a law that would require NOM to disclose all of the names of their donors. The U.S. First Circuit Court of Appeals held today that NOM has to release the names.
Not surprisingly, NOM says it will appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.
I would not be surprised at all if they manage to draw it long enough so that they don't have to release it until after the next attempt to get gay marraige legalized in Maine is over (it'll be on the 2012 ballot). It would be super awesome if they run out of appeals and are forced to release the information a month or two before the election.
That's how we roll here. Woo!
That's how we roll here. Woo!
Hmm. This might actually be the thing that kick-starts my motivation to get citizenship, so I'll have a vote when the inevitable referendum to repeal this makes it's way to the ballot.
Beginning of human history? Is Santorum a creationist? I can't understand how he can reconcile how much human history pre-dates Christianity and marriage unless he is one.
On that Chris Christie thing, how many votes do they need to just pass it directly? If putting it on the ballot needs 3/5, which is 60%, and that's supposed to be a bargain, then what do they need to just pass it? 2/3rds? That's not that much more.
Beginning of human history? Is Santorum a creationist? I can't understand how he can reconcile how much human history pre-dates Christianity and marriage unless he is one.
The part I have a problem with is that even if the world was 6000 years old the first 4000 of those years, when men were men, and women were women, and God smited the gays like they were going out of style, marriage was often about a man and a woman and a woman and a woman and a woman and a woman and a...
Christie is desperately trying not to have to deal with this.
See, the optimist in me says that he really wants it to happen, or doesn't care... But the idea of failing to appeal to the Republican base is scaring him.
If only he could get over that fear.
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