The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Catch-All

No, not like that. They're talking about the Firebolts and Fireballs. Flames/Sparks/Frostbite etc. are always Novice.

Right?

Well, in the destruction tree at least, I know that you can make lower level spells stronger as a result of perks. There are perks to make all of your fire, shock, or frost spells do more damage so that helps the lower tier spells like flames or firebolt scale.

I've been using lightening bolt and firebolt over chain lightening and fireball in almost every situation. It doesn't help that chain lightening and fireball do friendly fire damage though...

Also, if you want to see one of the most disturbing things ever, take your character's clothes off and type "sexchange" (no quotes) into the console. I had to use it to remove some bugged ice chunk projectiles and am now scarred for life.
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Hyetal wrote:

No, not like that. They're talking about the Firebolts and Fireballs. Flames/Sparks/Frostbite etc. are always Novice.

Right?

That's what I thought, Ranalin appears to be saying differently.

Slupczynski wrote:

Ok, I finally found it. It was pretty easy inside, the hard part was finding it. Playing on expert difficulty, they didn't stand much chance to leveled archery and sneak (the 3x sneak damage multiplayer and crits made me one shot almost everything) but yes, the place was full of spiders, webs and I guess pretty creepy for everyone disliking spiders. I find them moderately scary too. : )
Screenshot of the entrace:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/slupczy...
Thanks for info, I appreciate the venoms.

Full of spiders. Alright, I know which cave I'll not be enjoying. Thanks.

FedoraMcQuaid wrote:
Hyetal wrote:

No, not like that. They're talking about the Firebolts and Fireballs. Flames/Sparks/Frostbite etc. are always Novice.

Right?

That's what I thought, Ranalin appears to be saying differently.

I'd actually prefer that, but I'm pretty sure that's not how it works.

KrazyTacoFO wrote:
ahrezmendi wrote:

Man, all this talk of dragons makes me jealous. I'm nearly level 10, and I still haven't seen a single dragon outside of Alduin in the opening. At this rate, I'll be 20 before I fight my first dragon.

I'm level 23 and have only fought/seen 1 dragon.

For the people who haven't seen many dragons, do you not spend much time traveling out in the world? I get ambushed by dragons all the time. I counted up my shouts and unused souls last night, and I've apparently killed 13. 4 were from quests, 3 were at word walls, and the other 6 just jumped me while I was out riding around.

Regarding dragons and when you see them:

Pretty sure it's tied to several main quest events.

Aside from the intro dragon, you probably won't see another one until

Spoiler:

you are sent out by the Jarl of Whiterun to help his guards kill one in his fields

After that, I have a sneaking suspicion that you won't see random world dragons until

Spoiler:

you climb the mountain and talk with the greybeards

I reached level 19 or so before this point without ever seeing one, and then afterwards I started getting random dragons everywhere. So, if you want dragons in your world, do the main quest.

(Not sure about dragons who inhabit specific locations -- ie, ones you get bounty requests for -- they might be present before these two quest points, but I didn't exactly go looking.)

Was going by this post:

Hyetal wrote:
Nuean wrote:

So do the spells become adept or master or whatever when you get the appropriate skill level? Or is there different versions available for sale?

Actually my least favorite part of the game. No, is the answer to the first question. Yes to the second. The higher tiers are different spells altogether. I wish the spells would grow as you become stronger. Having to pay money to "advance" feels sorta lame.

I'm talking about any destruction spell, but it sounds like you have to level up the first set of spells and not ones you get later?

garion333 wrote:
Vega wrote:
Nevin73 wrote:

But when we left, Lydia said she would wait for me at the house. I don't have a house yet, so where do I go find her? She has a bunch of my sh*t that I want back.

I think she hangs out in Dragonreach with the Jarl if you don't have a house yet.

I swear she said she'd be at "her" house when I told her to stop stalking following me.

Perhaps I heard her incorrectly. Regardless, she should be somewhere in Dragonreach or Whiterun.

I had this problem with disappearing Lydia too (she went "home" when I was forced to pick up another follower for a Companion quest). Looked for her all over Whiterun without any luck. Then I bought the Whiterun house and a day later she strolls up to the front door, cool as a cucumber, to assume occupancy. Her location during the previous week seems to be a secret she doesn't intend to share.

Then somebody burgled me the very next day while my vigilant housecarl was napping upstairs. I came home just in time to catch an unfamiliar dude bailing out the door in the opposite direction. Chased him down and it turned out I made the right decision -- he was taking off with everything that I had in my storage chest. What an asshole. Anyone else get robbed yet?

zeroKFE wrote:

Regarding dragons and when you see them:

Pretty sure it's tied to several main quest events.

Aside from the intro dragon, you probably won't see another one until

Spoiler:

you are sent out by the Jarl of Whiterun to help his guards kill one in his fields

After that, I have a sneaking suspicion that you won't see random world dragons until

Spoiler:

you climb the mountain and talk with the greybeards

I reached level 19 or so before this point without ever seeing one, and then afterwards I started getting random dragons everywhere. So, if you want dragons in your world, do the main quest.

(Not sure about dragons who inhabit specific locations -- ie, ones you get bounty requests for -- they might be present before these two quest points, but I didn't exactly go looking.)

Some are based on if you go to paticular places and not bound by quests

Clemenstation wrote:

Then somebody burgled me the very next day while my vigilant housecarl was napping upstairs. I came home just in time to catch an unfamiliar dude bailing out the door in the opposite direction. Chased him down and it turned out I made the right decision -- he was taking off with everything that I had in my storage chest. What an asshole. Anyone else get robbed yet?

seriously? So maybe staying that college is better?

muttonchop wrote:
KrazyTacoFO wrote:
ahrezmendi wrote:

Man, all this talk of dragons makes me jealous. I'm nearly level 10, and I still haven't seen a single dragon outside of Alduin in the opening. At this rate, I'll be 20 before I fight my first dragon.

I'm level 23 and have only fought/seen 1 dragon.

For the people who haven't seen many dragons, do you not spend much time traveling out in the world? I get ambushed by dragons all the time. I counted up my shouts and unused souls last night, and I've apparently killed 13. 4 were from quests, 3 were at word walls, and the other 6 just jumped me while I was out riding around.

I've stayed in a couple cities and a couple towers/dungeons. I still haven't gone up to see the graybeards (or whatever the mountain godlike people are).

skeletonframes wrote:
Slupczynski wrote:

Ok, I finally found it. It was pretty easy inside, the hard part was finding it. Playing on expert difficulty, they didn't stand much chance to leveled archery and sneak (the 3x sneak damage multiplayer and crits made me one shot almost everything) but yes, the place was full of spiders, webs and I guess pretty creepy for everyone disliking spiders. I find them moderately scary too. : )
Screenshot of the entrace:
http://steamcommunity.com/id/slupczy...
Thanks for info, I appreciate the venoms.

Full of spiders. Alright, I know which cave I'll not be enjoying. Thanks.

Here's a link that was mentioned in the mod thread:

Rivers wrote:

PC Gamer already has an article about the best 10 mods so far:
http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/14/th...
interesting read

One of the mods in that article that I'm really looking forward to installing tonight is the "No Spiders Mod", not because I'm particularly arachnophobic, but the idea of being attacked by awkward looking bears makes me giggle.

skeletonframes wrote:

Full of spiders. Alright, I know which cave I'll not be enjoying. Thanks.

You can turn it into a cave full of bears.

zeroKFE wrote:

After that, I have a sneaking suspicion that you won't see random world dragons until

Spoiler:

you climb the mountain and talk with the greybeards

That isn't true. I haven't gone there yet and I get random world dragons.

Man, 300 unread posts in a day! Are you guys playing the game or just posting about it? I guess you PC players can just alt-tab over to GWJ and post their updates.

So I'm skimming terribly now, just wanted to say that random dragons are appearing now as zeroKFE describes above. And the first random one was a pushover! I'm level 9: dragon? No problem. Troll? Oh Christ, run!!!

Can anything be done with dragon bones/scales? I assume they're probably for crafting, but that's way down the line. Should I hold on to them and store them, or just sell these now since I might be rolling in them further on?

O.K. looking at the wiki this is how it works:

Every spell is unique from every other spell and only come in one form.
Any given spell will always be a certain tier.
Spells can be made stronger/more efficient only through perks or enchanted items.
Every shout has up to 3 words for it you can learn to further increase it's power.

zeroKFE wrote:

Regarding dragons and when you see them:

Pretty sure it's tied to several main quest events.

Aside from the intro dragon, you probably won't see another one until

Spoiler:

you are sent out by the Jarl of Whiterun to help his guards kill one in his fields

After that, I have a sneaking suspicion that you won't see random world dragons until

Spoiler:

you climb the mountain and talk with the greybeards

I reached level 19 or so before this point without ever seeing one, and then afterwards I started getting random dragons everywhere. So, if you want dragons in your world, do the main quest.

(Not sure about dragons who inhabit specific locations -- ie, ones you get bounty requests for -- they might be present before these two quest points, but I didn't exactly go looking.)

Zero, your 2nd spoiler isn't quite right, judging by my experience.

Spoiler:

I was in between the Whiterun dragon quest and heading to High Hrothgar, just minding my own business, when I was attacked by a dragon near Dawnstar.

Also, on my way from Dawnstar to the greybeards, I went through a mountain pass, and headed toward an icon on the compass that looked like a dragon. Killed a dragon up there, saw a dragon wall, thought "Cool!" and ran to it. Heard a coffin opening, thought "well I can handle these druargar dudes no problem". Turned out to be a named one, K-something or other. He was one hell of a tough SOB. Reloaded about 5 or 6 times and no matter what tactics or combination of magic/items/shouts I used, I could not beat that dude. I was probably about level 12 or so at the time. That's the only thing I've encountered yet I couldn't decimate easily with my 2-hander.

ranalin wrote:
Clemenstation wrote:

Then somebody burgled me the very next day while my vigilant housecarl was napping upstairs. I came home just in time to catch an unfamiliar dude bailing out the door in the opposite direction. Chased him down and it turned out I made the right decision -- he was taking off with everything that I had in my storage chest. What an asshole. Anyone else get robbed yet?

seriously? So maybe staying that college is better?

I dunno, haven't made it out there yet. I'm not sure what the deal is with housebreakers, but I'm hoping that you'll always have an opportunity (like I did) to catch them in the act / chase down and reacquire your stuff. I noticed that some other guys on reddit also had to thwart robberies, so it seems like a legit game feature.

Gravey wrote:

Man, 300 unread posts in a day! Are you guys playing the game or just posting about it? I guess you PC players can just alt-tab over to GWJ and post their updates.

So I'm skimming terribly now, just wanted to say that random dragons are appearing now as zeroKFE describes above. And the first random one was a pushover! I'm level 9: dragon? No problem. Troll? Oh Christ, run!!!

Can anything be done with dragon bones/scales? I assume they're probably for crafting, but that's way down the line. Should I hold on to them and store them, or just sell these now since I might be rolling in them further on?

If you bothered to read the past 300 posts (sheesh), you'd know that you can craft armor with them. Talk about being a filthy skimmer. Now go back and read those 300 posts. Now!

Gravey wrote:

Can anything be done with dragon bones/scales? I assume they're probably for crafting, but that's way down the line. Should I hold on to them and store them, or just sell these now since I might be rolling in them further on?

You can eventually craft armor with them but I think it's the last smithing perk. So, if you don't plan to dump a bunch of perks into smithing, I would sell them. You need 14 scales for the light armor set and 6 bones and 13 scales for the heavy armor. I think that's basically two dragons worth.

Then somebody burgled me the very next day while my vigilant housecarl was napping upstairs. I came home just in time to catch an unfamiliar dude bailing out the door in the opposite direction. Chased him down and it turned out I made the right decision -- he was taking off with everything that I had in my storage chest. What an asshole. Anyone else get robbed yet?

Holy sh*t, if that is a thing that happens now that is both awesome and terrifying. I wonder if the event is set up in such a way that you could lay a rune trap by your goods to set potential thieves on fire or something, or if the thief just materializes outside your door with your valuables in his inventory as you approach.

Hyetal wrote:
ranalin wrote:

Oh like to point out that stealth almost makes teh game feel like you're cheating. Well at least at night or in dungeons. 50+ it just seems to fly by, and once you get the x15 bonus with a dagger... Wow... pretty much everything but bosses drop like a sack. My mage barely casts any magic, but muffle and runes to prepare for a fight.

It's ridiculous. I was facing down 2 bears in a clearing, so I waited for my moment, and rolled up to one, power attack took him down, and then quick like a bunny rolled up to the second. It was pretty awesome, really.

This has always been true in TES games. I've played stealth since Morrowind, and it always winds up being the same - 50+ you can sneak up behind anything, and take at least half it's health with one attack. 75+ you can do this while they're facing you. 100 you don't even need the weapon anymore, you just sneak up to something and it dies from your mere presence. I imagine the perks make this even easier, at least in Morrowind/Oblivion you didn't get a x15 bonus from a backstab.

I hit High Hrothgar a couple hours back and...

Spoiler:

Have yet to encounter any random world dragons. I have only killed two dragons thus far, while questing. One outside of Whiterun, and one with the Blades chick.

When I went to Riften for the first time, there was a dragon attacking the city gate. I killed it, and the guards watched me absorb its soul and all started talking about how I was Dovakhiin. Immediately afterward, one of those same guards told me I had to go through the north gate instead, because he had strict orders to "keep the riffraff out". Excuse me? Riffraff? You just watched me kill a dragon and eat its soul. I'm a friggin' Thane in Whiterun and leader of the Companions! Just let me in the damn gate!

Clemenstation wrote:
ranalin wrote:
Clemenstation wrote:

Then somebody burgled me the very next day while my vigilant housecarl was napping upstairs. I came home just in time to catch an unfamiliar dude bailing out the door in the opposite direction. Chased him down and it turned out I made the right decision -- he was taking off with everything that I had in my storage chest. What an asshole. Anyone else get robbed yet?

seriously? So maybe staying that college is better?

I dunno, haven't made it out there yet. I'm not sure what the deal is with housebreakers, but I'm hoping that you'll always have an opportunity (like I did) to catch them in the act / chase down and reacquire your stuff. I noticed that some other guys on reddit also had to thwart robberies, so it seems like a legit game feature.

This is distressing news.

I always unload gear before dungeon diving, strictly sticking with essentials to make room for loot hoarding.

If I store my most prized items in my own home and there's still a danger of losing the stuff to a thief, then what's the point of collecting?

It might be nice that the game triggers a burglar escape only when you're approaching your house, but what if you simply miss it?

Are the Companions the Fighter's Guild in this game? I haven't messed with them too much, but I went into their headquarters in Whiterun and two people just suddenly started decking each other.

NSMike wrote:

Are the Companions the Fighter's Guild in this game? I haven't messed with them too much, but I went into their headquarters in Whiterun and two people just suddenly started decking each other.

Yes, they are.

muttonchop wrote:

When I went to Riften for the first time, there was a dragon attacking the city gate. I killed it, and the guards watched me absorb its soul and all started talking about how I was Dovakhiin. Immediately afterward, one of those same guards told me I had to go through the north gate instead, because he had strict orders to "keep the riffraff out". Excuse me? Riffraff? You just watched me kill a dragon and eat its soul. I'm a friggin' Thane in Whiterun and leader of the Companions! Just let me in the damn gate!

They think very highly of themselves in Riften. Wouldn't you if you had one of the most profitable apiaries in Skyrim at your doorstep?

Dragons? Pah, it's all about them bees.

http://www.skyrimnexus.com/downloads...

That might make mining a little easier.

Aaron D. wrote:

It might be nice that the game triggers a burglar escape only when you're approaching your house, but what if you simply miss it?

Finally, after decades of victimization by stickyfingered heroes, the NPCs of Tamriel strike back!

The most interesting thing about the whole event was Lydia. Turns out that she's great at unadvertised tasks (dragon-smashing) but sh*tty at her primary job role (housecarl).