US ex-general blames UN failure on gays and their gayness
The quote makes it sound like he was told gay soldiers were the problem, but as it came out while the guy was testifying against allowing openly gay soldiers to serve in the US military I think it's close enough for government work.
A retired American general has blamed the UN's historic failure to protect the Bosnian "safe haven" of Srebrenica on the fact that there were openly gay soldiers in the Dutch peacekeeping battalion assigned to it.The comments from former Marine Corps General John Sheehan prompted outrage in the Netherlands, where the humiliation in July 1995 of 400 armed Dutch peacekeepers and the subsequent massacre by Serb forces of 8,000 Muslim men and boys remains a subject of acute national sensitivity.
General Sheehan, one of two Nato "supreme commanders" at the time of the massacre, testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee against a proposal to allow homosexuals to serve openly in the US military.
"They declared a peace dividend and made a conscious effort to socialize their military — that includes the unionisation of their militaries, it includes open homosexuality. That led to a force that was ill-equipped to go to war," he said."The case in point that I’m referring to is when the Dutch were required to defend Srebrenica against the Serbs: the battalion was under-strength, poorly led, and the Serbs came into town, handcuffed the soldiers to the telephone poles, marched the Muslims off, and executed them.
“That was the largest massacre in Europe since World War II."
Carl Levin, the Michigan Democrat, chairman of the committee, was incredulous. He asked General Sheehan: “Did the Dutch leaders tell you it was because there were gay soldiers there?”
“Yes, they did. They included that as part of the problem,” he replied.
“That there were gay soldiers?” the senator asked.
“That the combination was the liberalisation of the military; a net effect was basically social engineering.”
It's a silly statement that doesn't fit with history, but this is what I find curious:
They declared a peace dividend and made a conscious effort to socialize their military
What isn't socialistic about the U.S. military? Government salaries, free healthcare, free housing, retirement system, education guarantees, etc. The military is the most socialistic institution/society in America.
Alternate conclusion: gay people hate Muslims, and did this on purpose to engineer the deaths of 8,000 of them.
Pretty sure my conclusion is just as accurate as Sheehan's.
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Moron. Utter moron. Utter drooling, yammering moron. Honestly one of the singly stupidest things I've ever heard.
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You get some real gems in retired military ranks some times. Reminds me of Boykin and his idiocy about how the difference between the Muslim and Christian gods was the deciding factor in military conflicts.
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I wonder what they told him were the other parts of the problem? The fact that they had stopped serving salsa with their chips on Taco Tuesdays in the mess hall? That some of the soldiers had mismatched socks on when they were attacked? That Jupiter was in the fifth house of Sagitarius?
Now if he can prove that these gay soldiers were too busy doing whatever stereotypical stuff gay soldiers do instead of actually, ya know, soldiering, then he might have a case. Outside of that it just seems like a convenient excuse for the UN defense force getting caught with its pants down. Hmm... maybe that IS what he meant?
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Too busy fixing their pink berets and engaging in the butt secks to fight.
No, no, no. That's all okay. It's the gays. Gay people = socialism. Duh.
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So, just so I am clear-convicted felons in the marines is OK, just keep the queens at bay?
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Pretty much. Felons already have that killer instinct so they've actually got a leg up on the competition.
To be fair, it's actually pretty difficult to get into the military today with a criminal record though it's been getting easier since Iraq. Most of the guys I've personally known that have gone into the military in the last 10 years have gone in to avoid criminal convictions. I know of at least 3 18-20 year old guys who cut deals with judges to avoid drug convictions. They join the military, the charges get dropped. It's actually worked out pretty well for these guys all things considered.
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It's also a whole lot easier to get into the military without a high school diploma now.
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Gad dang illegal Mezzicans.
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The gays done killed Taco Tuesday. Pat Robertson done said it's a judgement from Gawd against shredded lettuce.
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Screw that noise. Us gays live for Taco Tuesday. The fact that it's an extension of Margarita Monday is only tangentially relevant.
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I thought gay men didn't much care for the taco?
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I heard a retired general say they're just trying to ruin the taco for the rest of us.
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No doubt. I thought they were all about the flautas.
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Can they have Tofu Tuesday instead? I mean, vegetarians are still people. Mostly.
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I bet vegetarians are the reason the UN was so ineffectual in Rwanda. Probably Swedish, maybe Belgian. Can't tell, investigation isn't complete yet. At any rate, they're bastards, all of them.
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I like bean tacos. Does that make me bad?
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Dear General,
Contrary to your small-minded, bigoted belief, I am not at ALL interested in your saggy ass.
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Yes. Yes it does.
Okay, so we have Taco Tuesday, Margarita Monday, and I would like to add BJ Friday. Gay or straight, I think that is something we could all agree on.
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Somewhere, there has to be at least one lesbian site member who strongly disagrees. Then again, there's always Taco Tuesday . . . never mind.
"Sometimes loving your country requires you to put your penis in a congressional staffer."
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I wonder if he'd make the same observation about this army.
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Or any of their Allies in Iraq, Afghanistan or elsewhere.
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Of course not! Beans are made of awesome and taste of win. Also, they make you fart, and who doesn't enjoy a good trump, eh?
Vegetarian food is fine.
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