Socialists, and the National Front in France

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Nicolas Sarkozy's centre-right UMP party appears to be heading for defeat in French regional elections.

Initial results suggest the opposition Socialist party has taken a strong lead in the first round of voting.

The outcome will be a major blow for Mr Sarkozy in the last nationwide poll before presidential and parliamentary elections due in 2012.

The far-right National Front looks to have done better than expected, with up to 12% of the vote.

Sunday's election took place with President Sarkozy's popularity rating at an all-time low and unemployment at 10%.

Sadly, Jean-Marie Le Pen in still involved, but if somehow ended up becoming PM in France, I believe the UN passed a resolution stating that they are legally barred from making fun of Americans for a minimum of 25 years.

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The funny thing is that in France "right-wing" has pretty much lost all its meaning. Sarkozy is considered a rightist only because he's less socialist than the other parties.

And Le Pen is just crazy, let's be honest.

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There really isn't a lot of news here. The National Front gets around 8-12% in elections depending on the type of elections. The Parliamentary system combined with the more common proportional representation voting (The UK is the only European country that operates first past the post and some suspect that it won't be much longer) throws up fringe elements all the time. Heck, the UK has UKIP and the BNP.

Sure it throws up pretty far-right loons but they aren't going to go away and I'd prefer to give them some outlet than end up with building resentment. The upside to proportional representation is you get such examples as 2 Pirate Party members in the European Parliament who I can't but fail to conclude had an effect on the recent blocking of the ACTA discussions. In Ireland, I can and do vote for tiny parties with my first preference and then move onto the larger, more policy broader parties. Currently, one of those parties, The Green Party, is propping up its larger partner and doing a solid job (Tax return of up to €1000 on bicycle gear a year my favourite).

Will European people vote in Holocaust deniers, reconstructed Communists, bigots, racists and homophobes into power? Sure but they tend to just get sidelined and ignored because the rest of the chamber just views them as nuts. The smaller parties that have something solid to contribute actually matter from time to time. Probably more than they should because they tend to be purer policy wise. Better market based politics I suppose.

As an aside, that power the European Parliament got was in the Lisbon Treaty. They would not have been able to halt its progress without Ireland passing it last October. Nice to get a little bit of vindication for your efforts:)

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wanderingtaoist wrote:
The funny thing is that in France "right-wing" has pretty much lost all its meaning. Sarkozy is considered a rightist only because he's less socialist than the other parties.

And Le Pen is just crazy, let's be honest.

Sounds kind of like the opposite of the US.

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Somebody enlighten me: How socialist is Socialist Party? I haven't kept a track of French politics in years now so I have no idea how their political scene looks right now and how economy looks.

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In a Socialist Party, we share the liquor equally, right?

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Quintin_Stone wrote:
In a Socialist Party, we share the liquor equally, right?

AND, appearance is not important.

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Oso wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
In a Socialist Party, we share the liquor equally, right?

AND, appearance is not important.

Well, the one follows the other pretty logically (assuming there is enough liquor to to around )

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UCRC wrote:
Somebody enlighten me: How socialist is Socialist Party? I haven't kept a track of French politics in years now so I have no idea how their political scene looks right now and how economy looks.

The French Socialist Party is pretty much in line with many other West-European social-democratic parties. They're historically a tad more leftist, due to the French winner-takes-all electoral system. Whichever side was in charge realized their hot button issues. The gaullists (right wing) privatize the tv networks and highways. The socialists empower social security (even in the 80's, when it was not exactly en vogue) and legalized abortion, etc.

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