Mississippi high school prom canceled because girl wants to bring girlfriend as date

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A school board in the US state of Mississippi has cancelled a high school prom after a female student asked to attend with her girlfriend.

The board said it would not host the event due to "distractions to the educational process".

Student Constance McMillen, 18, said the move was in retaliation for her request to bring her girlfriend to the event and wear a tuxedo.


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They couldn't have painted a larger target on this poor kid. Now everyone from students, to tux rental places, to restaurants who will lose customers, to limousine companies can all focus their hate on one kid!

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She also said that when she asked a teacher about the school's ban on same-sex dates at the prom, she was told she had to remember where she was.

Lissen up ya motorcycle ridin' stereotype, this ain't no New York City, this is Mississipuh! We'uns jus' stopped lynchin' last week! Ya'll can't go all paradin' around like ya'll'er from Kally-fornya, y'hear?"

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Weak, but not surprising.

I bet their prom would've sucked anyway, the afterparty is always where it's at. And now everyone will have more money for wine coolers!

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You think she might have been better off not telling the school ahead of time?

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I get dizzy thinking about the logic behind this. Imagine if the school board's thinking was extended to society at large.

"We're sorry people, but because *some* of you couldn't control yourselves and limit connubial activities to your one licensed sex partner, we're going to have to cancel sex for everyone. We know this won't be a popular decision, but it seems the only way to deal with the issue."

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Seth wrote:
Lissen up ya motorcycle ridin' stereotype, this ain't no New York City, this is Mississipuh! We'uns jus' stopped lynchin' last week! Ya'll can't go all paradin' around like ya'll'er from Kally-fornya, y'hear?"

Is an offensive stereotype really the best response to this?

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I get dizzy thinking about the logic behind this. Imagine if the school board's thinking was extended to society at large.

"We're sorry people, but because *some* of you couldn't control yourselves and limit connubial activities to your one licensed sex partner, we're going to have to cancel sex for everyone. We know this won't be a popular decision, but it seems the only way to deal with the issue."

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They couldn't have painted a larger target on this poor kid. Now everyone from students, to tux rental places, to restaurants who will lose customers, to limousine companies can all focus their hate on one kid!

And her girlfriend.

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Seth wrote:
Lissen up ya motorcycle ridin' stereotype, this ain't no New York City, this is Mississipuh! We'uns jus' stopped lynchin' last week! Ya'll can't go all paradin' around like ya'll'er from Kally-fornya, y'hear?"

Is an offensive stereotype really the best response to this?


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Lissen up ya motorcycle ridin' stereotype, this ain't no New York City, this is Mississipuh! We'uns jus' stopped lynchin' last week! Ya'll can't go all paradin' around like ya'll'er from Kally-fornya, y'hear?"

Is an offensive stereotype really the best response to this?

Between 1) pointing out their horribleness verbally, 2) violence, and 3) silent approval, I would say, emphatically, "yes."

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Can you imagine what would have happened if it was a guy who wanted to bring his boyfriend in a dress? Not in my class but in a year ahead of me we had a guy who wore a dress and brought his boyfriend. It wasn't a big deal at all, the only weird part was when my gym teacher said that he looked better than some of the girls.

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Can you imagine what would have happened if it was a guy who wanted to bring his boyfriend in a dress? Not in my class but in a year ahead of me we had a guy who wore a dress and brought his boyfriend. It wasn't a big deal at all, the only weird part was when my gym teacher said that he looked better than some of the girls.

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This really was an incredibly spiteful move on the school board's part. Shame on them, not only for their betrayal of this student but their cowardice in the face of bigotry.

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First off, I'd just like to say that I'm very proud of Louisiana for not being in this headline.

Second, it still confuses me, a pure innocent confusion, the amount of effort people will put into being bothered by the decisions of others. Honestly, I think of myself as a generous, but pretty self absorbed guy. As I also think of most people as self absorbed, which does not have to be a bad thing. Unless someone is threatening, blocking, annoying, or just disrupting my way of life, then I really could care less. I am much to busy taking care of me. So, you know what wouldn't bother me? Someone going to prom dressed like however, or bring whoever, they damn well please, because it has nothing to do with me. You know what would bother me? Something I was going to attend being canceled on someone else's say so.

It just seems to be how the majority works, and I will never understand it.

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Second, it still confuses me, a pure innocent confusion, the amount of effort people will put into being bothered by the decisions of others.

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Rat Boy wrote:
You think she might have been better off not telling the school ahead of time?

That was my first thought. Since when do kids have to "request" the school to bring a specific date to a dance?

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She also said that when she asked a teacher about the school's ban on same-sex dates at the prom, she was told she had to remember where she was.

What does that even mean? Was the teacher referring to her rural town, as in "remember backwater villages don't like the gays"? Or was the teacher referring to high school, in that "it's not okay to be out in high school?" Both viewpoints are odious, but I think it's important to distinguish which was really at play here.

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KaterinLHC wrote:
What does that even mean?

It sounds to me like the teacher was saying that the school board will go batsh*t over the prospect of lesbians at a dance and that everyone in town will know she's a lesbian, so be prepared for a big stink up if she pushes to bring a girl to a dance. But maybe it was more nasty than that.

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I see where you're all coming from and I agree that this is not the appropriate way to deal with a same-sex couple.

That said, this is Mississippi we're talking about. Highschoolers in Mississippi. Not the best place to go for progressive and enlightened outlooks. I admire the couple's openness and loyalty to each other and support their right to be a couple, but I somehow doubt that all the other students at this event would be quite so open-minded.

If the school board genuinely thought that a lesbian couple would cause some serious problems, up to and including violence against those students, yet didn't wish to specifically ban them from attendance for being gay, they didn't really have a whole lot of options. It sounds like a lame excuse but I can see how it would be a valid concern. You can't expect a school full of teenagers to be respectful of alternative lifestyles and you can't fault the people in charge for understanding that.

That doesn't make it right. It just makes it a thing.

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KaterinLHC wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:
You think she might have been better off not telling the school ahead of time?

That was my first thought. Since when do kids have to "request" the school to bring a specific date to a dance?

According to what I read elsewhere on t'intenets, it's not that unusual to have to register your date if they're from a lower school year or a different school.

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KaterinLHC wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:
You think she might have been better off not telling the school ahead of time?

That was my first thought. Since when do kids have to "request" the school to bring a specific date to a dance?

In my high school, you had to do something special if you were bringing someone who didn't go to the school. Mostly a way of knowing who was going to be there. It certainly didn't stop a girl in my class from bringing a 30 year old butch lesbian as her date (now that was creepy... though it has less to do with the lesbian part and more to do with the 30 year old at prom part).

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It certainly didn't stop a girl in my class from bringing a 30 year old butch lesbian as her date (now that was creepy... though it has less to do with the lesbian part and more to do with the 30 year old at prom part).

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LobsterMobster wrote:

If the school board genuinely thought that a lesbian couple would cause some serious problems, up to and including violence against those students, yet didn't wish to specifically ban them from attendance for being gay, they didn't really have a whole lot of options. It sounds like a lame excuse but I can see how it would be a valid concern. You can't expect a school full of teenagers to be respectful of alternative lifestyles and you can't fault the people in charge for understanding that.

That doesn't make it right. It just makes it a thing.

Yeah because canceling the prom for everyone certainly will protect her from violence. If that was their goal and if they understood that "You can't expect a school full of teenagers to be respectful of alternative lifestyles" then they would have known better than to punish everyone at the school and tie that to her!

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farley3k wrote:
LobsterMobster wrote:

If the school board genuinely thought that a lesbian couple would cause some serious problems, up to and including violence against those students, yet didn't wish to specifically ban them from attendance for being gay, they didn't really have a whole lot of options. It sounds like a lame excuse but I can see how it would be a valid concern. You can't expect a school full of teenagers to be respectful of alternative lifestyles and you can't fault the people in charge for understanding that.

That doesn't make it right. It just makes it a thing.

Yeah because canceling the prom for everyone certainly will protect her from violence. If that was their goal and if they understood that "You can't expect a school full of teenagers to be respectful of alternative lifestyles" then they would have known better than to punish everyone at the school and tie that to her!

Do we know how the community at large found out? Did they get on the intercom and say, "No more dance and you have those two lesbos to thank?" It's pretty clear they didn't want to make national news for something like this so I'm guessing at some point there were unintended consequences.

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First off, I'd just like to say that I'm very proud of Louisiana for not being in this headline.

Actually, they're in a separate related headline, but in a good way. A New Orleans hotel owner is offering to host the prom for the kids if the school doesn't overturn their decision.

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A decade or two ago here in Alabama we had a big stink about a principal cancelling a prom because an interracial couple was going to attend. I think we made national headlines with that one. Luckily I haven't heard of anything similar since then.

Back in the mid 90's I also learned some interesting lessons about private schools. Knowing what I know now about private institutions and contract law it makes perfect sense but being in highschool at the time it confused the heck out of me. Private schools can kick you out for any reason. My now-wife was kicked out in the 11th grade for having a party at her house during the summer in which 12 beers were present and 3 of which were consumed. Another girl was kicked out for being pregnant in her senior year. They told her if she denied she was pregnant they would've let her home school and graduate with her class but since she declined to do that they just kicked her out.

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Rereading the BBC story, I start to wonder if the prom-cancelling wasn't a retaliation for the girl calling in the ACLU. I can't tell from the story when she got ACLU support, but it seems as if she asked, was told no, she got legal help, then the school cancelled prom.

Kudos to her for refusing to be bullied.

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Stay classy, Mississippi.

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Not to pile on Mississippi (but to TOTALLY pile on Mississippi), a list of their accomplishments:

http://www.statemaster.com/state/MS/Bottom-Rankings

A few highlights. Last in median family income, high school graduates, visits to dentist, and quality of life. Second to last in best educated index, above 8th grade writing ability, and healthy index. Third to last in number of roller coasters.

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KaterinLHC wrote:
Rat Boy wrote:
You think she might have been better off not telling the school ahead of time?

That was my first thought. Since when do kids have to "request" the school to bring a specific date to a dance?

The Article wrote:
She also said that when she asked a teacher about the school's ban on same-sex dates at the prom, she was told she had to remember where she was.

What does that even mean? Was the teacher referring to her rural town, as in "remember backwater villages don't like the gays"? Or was the teacher referring to high school, in that "it's not okay to be out in high school?" Both viewpoints are odious, but I think it's important to distinguish which was really at play here.


I might be off but I read the quote from the teacher with a sympathetic tone for the girl. Still not right, but more of the lines trying to protect her from the bigots that she was trapped with in the system. Maybe I watch to many movies though.

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Morgan Freeman payed for it.

Morgan Freeman actually is a classy guy. Mississippi, not so much. Also not a guy. More of a landmass.

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