GWJ Conference Call Episode 172

Episode 172 - January 27th, 2010
Spelunky, Bayonetta, Uncharted(s), Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes, Special Guest Kyle Orland & An Interview With Introversion!, Your Emails and more!

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This week famed game journalist Kyle Orland joins Lara, Julian and Cory to discuss the dissolving of Crispy Gamer, the state of freelance journalism and more! Julian and Cory also sit down with Introversion's Mark Morris and Chris Delay to chat about independent game development and Darwinia+ for Xbox Live Arcade! If you want to submit a question or comment call in to our voicemail line at (612) 284-4563.

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Lara and Kyle? Best GWJCC ever.

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Troy Goodfellow wrote:
Lara and Kyle? Best GWJCC ever.

But, but.... I'm not on.

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Gaald wrote:
Troy Goodfellow wrote:
Lara and Kyle? Best GWJCC ever.

But, but.... I'm not on.

It took two of them to replace you?

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It's extremely frustrating that sites like crispygamer.com don't see greater success--perhaps they needed a marketing angle that brought it to the attention of people who are not necessarily gamers, as Kyle is talking about around 43:00. I could see this kind of site getting interest from academics, social commentators, and anyone else who is interested in games for reasons other than entertainment.

And Rabbit, if you write a book I suggest you call it Down the Rabbit Hole or some other terrible pun. Actually don't do that. But I do think you could expand on the piece you wrote on religion in games into a larger exploration of how/why games so often fail to address serious/mature issues in intelligent ways. I'm sure I'd read it.

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I guess since no one pointed it out yet, I will... I *think* this is supposed to be Espisode 172 - 171 was last week A great episode none the less!

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Chairman_Mao wrote:
It's extremely frustrating that sites like crispygamer.com don't see greater success--perhaps they needed a marketing angle that brought it to the attention of people who are not necessarily gamers

Judging from the thread on its demise, it didn't have the attention of many gamers, either.

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Dysplastic wrote:
Judging from the thread on its demise, it didn't have the attention of many gamers, either.

I didn't even know it existed until it was gone.

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Dysplastic wrote:
Chairman_Mao wrote:
It's extremely frustrating that sites like crispygamer.com don't see greater success--perhaps they needed a marketing angle that brought it to the attention of people who are not necessarily gamers

Judging from the thread on its demise, it didn't have the attention of many gamers, either.

Well that's my point, they were targeting the wrong audience. Perhaps instead of targeting gamers, who it obviously failed to catch the attention of, they should have gone for people who are interested game critique, social implications, ramifications, etc. But I don't think they marketed themselves to those audiences.

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Good episode, but I've got one minor correction: even though John Davison is no longer associated with them, What They Play is still up and running with Dana Jongewaard at the helm.

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OzymandiasAV wrote:
Good episode, but I've got one minor correction: even though John Davison is no longer associated with them, What They Play is still up and running with Dana Jongewaard at the helm.

You are very correct -- the survivor of the Green Pixels/WTP merger was WTP, and Dana is the bomb. I even have a freelance piece in the cue there if it ever prints (it was cued up the day before the merger, practically).

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Troy Goodfellow wrote:
Gaald wrote:
Troy Goodfellow wrote:
Lara and Kyle? Best GWJCC ever.

But, but.... I'm not on.

It took two of them to replace you?

Nice cover.

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Because, see, wordsmythe is a jerk!

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You just literarily blew my mind!

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Didn't you guys read that email about Facebook gaming last week?

Anyway, great show. Nice to have Kyle on, too bad it was for such a bad reason, though. Can yall get more guests on before they get fired?

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Bayonetta isn't a "strip fighter" game as a "stripper who is fighting" game. I think Bayonetta seems to foster discussions very similar to the ones surrounding the stripper profession, "empowering" vs. "shallow", etc.

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I'm looking forward to Darwinia+... the original ran pretty bad on my old Mac. So, Yay!

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I wonder if Corey would enjoy playing a game with a male protagonist if every time you did a combo you almost saw his wang.

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Dax wrote:
I wonder if Corey would enjoy playing a game with a male protagonist if every time you did a combo you almost saw his wang.

Is it a magical wang?

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Because, see, wordsmythe is a jerk!

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You just literarily blew my mind!

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wordsmythe wrote:
Dax wrote:
I wonder if Corey would enjoy playing a game with a male protagonist if every time you did a combo you almost saw his wang.

Is it a magical wang?

Yes, a magical wang that also doubles as Cory's clothes.

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Great podcast, guys & gals! Both listening to Kyle and the interview with the introversion guys were great. Got Darwinia on Steam late last year and have yet to play it, so I guess this is my queue. I just hope that the TSA doesn't destroy their xboxes while they are traveling around.

I had been hearing about Crispy Gamer lately, and had stopped by their site a few times, but was yet to be a regular member. Sounds like they were headed in my direction. A shame it's gone, as we need more sites that go beyond just reviews (why I come here). I wish I'd discovered it sooner.

I was crushed when GFW Magazine closed down, then the podcast died. The Jeff Green and Shawn Elliott show (as well as Darren, Sean, Ryan, Robert Ashley, and everyone else who contributed) was simply the best PC gaming podcast on the web (I'm currently in the process of downloading all of the old episodes, listening to them, and archiving them). Gaming (like books, music, & movies) has the potential to be provoke deep and intellectual analysis. It can teach and simulate experiences you can't get any other way. It can expand one's horizons and challenge you to think differently. Even something as simple as Peggle can spur you to ask yourself, why am I so addicted to this? What properties does it have that I find so appealing? Why do I ignore my desire for sleep at 2AM to play just one more level?

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wordsmythe wrote:
Troy Goodfellow wrote:
Gaald wrote:
Troy Goodfellow wrote:
Lara and Kyle? Best GWJCC ever.

But, but.... I'm not on.

It took two of them to replace you?

Nice cover.

Don't worry, we won't cover our opinions of you for the live show.

Was Bit.Trip.Void the first WiiWare game the CC has talked about? It seems that way. Also, talk of DSiWare in the same episode, as well as both titles having "void" in the title!? Gasp!

As weird as it may sound, ign is actually attempting to do more editorials and content on their site. I think they, too are feeling the crunch from places like Kotaku where they can't keep up with news the same way they used to. Of course, so far their new editorials have managed to make all the Wii readers just hate the staff just because they've been calling out Nintendo for not putting a bit more effort into their efforts / supporting features everyone else includes as basic necessary functions.

I never heard of crispy gamer before this episode.

EDIT: One more thing. As for kids playing with LEGOs, a coworker of mine wants me to build a wood box/chest (out of maple, which makes me happy) to hold LEGOs for his 3yr old kid, so there's another instance of kids these days still growing up on LEGOs.

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wordsmythe wrote:
Dax wrote:
I wonder if Corey would enjoy playing a game with a male protagonist if every time you did a combo you almost saw his wang.

Is it a magical wang?

Magical Wang? He's my cousin!

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Certis wrote:

I stuck the sword in his pooper

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garion333 wrote:
Didn't you guys read that email about Facebook gaming last week?

Anyway, great show. Nice to have Kyle on, too bad it was for such a bad reason, though. Can yall get more guests on before they get fired?


Indeed, hosting fail! rabbit will be flogged.

Did Kyle say Crispy Gamer seed money was 8.5 million? What the hell do they spend that on?

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I had strict instructions on what emails were on and off limits!

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OzymandiasAV wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Dax wrote:
I wonder if Corey would enjoy playing a game with a male protagonist if every time you did a combo you almost saw his wang.

Is it a magical wang?

Yes, a magical wang that also doubles as Cory's clothes.


G-d I hope this is the new game from Irrational.

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Demiurge wrote:
OzymandiasAV wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Dax wrote:
I wonder if Corey would enjoy playing a game with a male protagonist if every time you did a combo you almost saw his wang.

Is it a magical wang?

Yes, a magical wang that also doubles as Cory's clothes.


G-d I hope this is the new game from Irrational.

I hope it's being made for facebook.

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Demiurge wrote:
OzymandiasAV wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Dax wrote:
I wonder if Corey would enjoy playing a game with a male protagonist if every time you did a combo you almost saw his wang.

Is it a magical wang?

Yes, a magical wang that also doubles as Cory's clothes.


G-d I hope this is the new game from Irrational.

Coming soon! The shooter/RPG hybrid NOBODY'S been waiting for!

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I think doubtingthomas makes a number of good points there. I don't need to re-hash them.

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the game amounts to Tic-Tac-Toe with guns.

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doubtingthomas396 wrote:
Demiurge wrote:
OzymandiasAV wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Dax wrote:
I wonder if Corey would enjoy playing a game with a male protagonist if every time you did a combo you almost saw his wang.

Is it a magical wang?

Yes, a magical wang that also doubles as Cory's clothes.


G-d I hope this is the new game from Irrational.

Coming soon! The shooter/RPG hybrid NOBODY'S been waiting for!

BioC***

Nice!

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Wembley wrote:
Demiurge wrote:
OzymandiasAV wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
Dax wrote:
I wonder if Corey would enjoy playing a game with a male protagonist if every time you did a combo you almost saw his wang.

Is it a magical wang?

Yes, a magical wang that also doubles as Cory's clothes.


G-d I hope this is the new game from Irrational.

I hope it's being made for facebook.

That'll be good. I'm pretty sure all my Facebook friends want update on my magic wang mastery.

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Because, see, wordsmythe is a jerk!

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I just want throw out the Spelunky Catch-all thread if any of you decide to pick up the game.

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Certis wrote:
garion333 wrote:
Didn't you guys read that email about Facebook gaming last week?

Anyway, great show. Nice to have Kyle on, too bad it was for such a bad reason, though. Can yall get more guests on before they get fired?


Indeed, hosting fail! rabbit will be flogged.

Did Kyle say Crispy Gamer seed money was 8.5 million? What the hell do they spend that on?

Cocaine and hookers. What do you guys use the donation drive money for?

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