Impulse vs Steam vs Everything Else

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If a game is available on Impulse and Steam and the price is the same, is there any reason to choose Impulse? EDIT: And Nightmare brings up a good point, what's the difference to developers who publish their games on those services? EDIT2: I should read the rest of the thread first. So does kuddles. What about the rest of the download services he mentions?

So we have:

Steam
Impulse
GOG
Direct2Drive
GamersGate
The EA Store

Any others to consider? Is there any reason to choose any of those services over any of the others?

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Can't think of any. All my friends are on Steam and a ton of my games are on Steam. I only use Impulse for games that I cannot get in Steam.

Maybe Impulse gives better rates to developers? In that case, I might use them instead for indy games.

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Single player games i'd probably get on Impluse as i want them to be successful and grow in order for Steam to get better as currently there's no equivalent Steam competition....

Multiplayer? It depends on the game but atm there's not much difference between me playing on Steam or Impluse with regards to people i know.

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I like Steam better, mostly because I seem to have trouble updating Impulse whenever they release a client update. Other than that, the two are basically the same.

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Impulse doesn't require, typically, that Impulse itself be running for your games to work. You don't seem to have to call a central server to ask permission to run a game; once it's installed, you can just run it.

So I prefer it to Steam when I have the option.

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I like Steam better just because I have more games there and like all of the community features Steam has.

From a DRM perspective Impulse is marginally better, if it wasn't for the community features and the higher popularity of Steam in general I would prefer Impulse.

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I greatly prefer Steam. Part of this is that I prefer to have everything in one place and Steam just got headway into my life first. However, I have bought tons of stuff off Steam and they've been flawless transactions every time. Meanwhile, I have only bought three games off Impulse and each time I've suffered through annoying issues, so other then possibly Elemental or other Stardock-published games I don't plan on buying anything from their service again.

That aside, personally, I don't find Impulse's community features or interface to be as pleasant as Steam but there's nothing specifically wrong with them.

None of this matters though, because Impulse has already altered their prices to match the exchange rate of my country. For example, Resident Evil 5 is $50 at my local retailer and on Steam and most of their other competitors, but on Impulse it's $54.34. That may be the fair thing to do and partially out of their control, but the fact remains that for Canada at least, the price never is the same anymore, barring a significant sale price.

Personally, my preference is in the following order: Steam, Direct2Drive, GamersGate, Impulse, Retail Store, stealing it from a truck, donating my body for science, the EA Store.

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Malor wrote:
Impulse doesn't require, typically, that Impulse itself be running for your games to work. You don't seem to have to call a central server to ask permission to run a game; once it's installed, you can just run it.

So I prefer it to Steam when I have the option.

Good point... if this is true I'm gonna start using Impulse some more.

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Well honestly I like the client for Impulse better than Steam's.

The problem is that Steam is so convenient and has so much market penetration. The weekend deals quickly built a pile of Steam on my hard drive that I now have to go through. I have about 8 or 9 games on Impulse. I think Impulse needs to offer the same type of weekend deals to get people interested in the client. If they were more aggressive in going after market share I think they'd be more popular right now.

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I like Steam better because I have never used Impulse because if I'm playing a game on PC, 80% of the time it's a Valve game.

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I've only tried Steam. I'm tempted to try one of the other services, specifically D2D with their ongoing sale. I've even decided that I'm going to use D2-- and then I don't. If the same games were on Steam for the price they've been on sale at D2D I would have made several purchases. For me it is all about consolidation of only having to think about a single service-- as well as the community aspect of being able to be invited to a L4D match even f I'm on another game I purchased from Steam.

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You're forgetting Good Old Games.

The only other site that I've used is Steam; which I'm reasonably happy with.

Oh, and Edios offers direct download of some of their older titles, if you are willing to put up with their DRM (which I find a bit restrictive).

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kuddles wrote:
I greatly prefer Steam. Part of this is that I prefer to have everything in one place and Steam just got headway into my life first. However, I have bought tons of stuff off Steam and they've been flawless transactions every time. Meanwhile, I have only bought three games off Impulse and each time I've suffered through annoying issues, so other then possibly Elemental or other Stardock-published games I don't plan on buying anything from their service again.

Pretty much this. For me the only gripe I have is the region locking that sometimes happens on Steam. Hmm, to be honest, once locked out on Steam, I've never actually gone to the others to see if it was the same there. If they were offering the same game that is.

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Personally, my preference is in the following order: Steam, Direct2Drive, GamersGate, Impulse, Retail Store, stealing it from a truck, donating my body for science, the EA Store.

Heh. I see what you did there...

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Can't think of any. All my friends are on Steam and a ton of my games are on Steam. I only use Impulse for games that I cannot get in Steam.

This. And I don't buy from the others, I'll buy retail first. Not only do they tend to have more issues, but I don't want my games in 5 different services. Impulse and Steam are enough.

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I've only ever used Steam and GoG. So far my experience with both has been nothing but positive. The free copy of Beneath a Steel Sky I got off of GoG helped satisfy the adventure game lust that was left over after finishing Monkey Island SE.

I do intend on getting Sins of a Solar Empire off Impulse one of these days. But until then I'm content w/ Steam.

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kuddles wrote:
None of this matters though, because Impulse has already altered their prices to match the exchange rate of my country. For example, Resident Evil 5 is $50 at my local retailer and on Steam and most of their other competitors, but on Impulse it's $54.34. That may be the fair thing to do and partially out of their control, but the fact remains that for Canada at least, the price never is the same anymore, barring a significant sale price.

Personally, my preference is in the following order: Steam, Direct2Drive, GamersGate, Impulse, Retail Store, stealing it from a truck, donating my body for science, the EA Store.

Wow, I get to correct Kuddles for once! I'd just like to point out to everyone that he is wrong.
Steam charges you $50 US Dollars. Your credit card company then does the exchange rate and charges you their equivalent of Canadian Dollars.
Impulse does the exact same thing, but on their site they estimate how much the price will be in Canadian dollars. They even have a disclaimer that says that the price in CAD is just an estimate based on current exchange rates and might not be what it actually is.
BUT, neither of them charge GST or PST on the sale, so as long as exchange rate < taxes, Steam and Impulse are still cheaper than retail.

I also dig Steam the most, mostly because of consolidation and so that I can see all my games in one place. D2D has good sales and has always been reliable, but I'm not a huge fan because their website sucks and they're owned by IGN. Gamersgate I've been happy with and I like Europeans, so that helps.
As for Impulse, I really, really don't like their interface, but I like the way they do business so I'm happy to buy from them - I pre-ordered dragon age from them using the 20% off code, which was nice.
Really, though, I'll use Steam for everything except for games I can't get there and killer deals at other sites, like the 5$ D2D sale that's going on.

My prefs - Steam>GOG>Impulse>Gamersgate>D2D>Retail>Pirate Bay>Genital Warts>EA Store.

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Well, Steam got in first so is my preferred service. If something is available on there for the same price as everywhere else, that's where I'll go. I'm very much invested in it and the community features. I have used GamersGate and Direct2Drive and both are pretty good for getting the odd game they have cheaper. I've stayed away from Impulse as I'm not keen on having more than one client-based service and I've never felt the need to use it: until something essential turns up on there that I can't get elsewhere or is majorly discounted compared to elsewhere, I can't really see myself using it either. Just my 2p.

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I'll buy from Impulse whenever I can....mostly because I want them to be successful. Steam obviously has a big headstart on them, though. While my downloading experience has been pretty much the same through both clients, the Steam community features are still about 18 months ahead of Impulse's. (They're working on it all the time, though. They'll catch up.)

I've been hesitant to use any downloading services outside of Steam and Impulse. Two seems like enough.

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Dysplastic wrote:
Steam charges you $50 US Dollars. Your credit card company then does the exchange rate and charges you their equivalent of Canadian Dollars.
Impulse does the exact same thing, but on their site they estimate how much the price will be in Canadian dollars. They even have a disclaimer that says that the price in CAD is just an estimate based on current exchange rates and might not be what it actually is.

You're right. I guess I fell for the oldest psychological trick in the book.

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So I've got a question about Steam. Everyone always says that to play games you've downloaded on Steam, you need to have an internet connection so it can authenticate the games to allow you to play. However, I have never, ever had an issue with playing the games I've downloaded on my laptop when I don't have an internet connection. I simply start Steam in offline mode and everything still works. Does it really not work like this for everyone else?

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I find Impulse to be less annoying and intrusive than Steam. But as others already mentioned Steam defined the market and therefore holds the most prominent place. In a year or two Impulse should be able to catch up to the nicer aspects of Steam and then I will probably prefer it to Steam. Ideally Steam would allow API access to its data like Facebook, so you can export your friend's list into other applications.

I've started using D2D only recently. Haven't had any issues with it, but I'm not really big on it. The interface is really untrustworthy and the downloader is confusing at best (when it comes to its functionality).

Haven't used any other services yet. And unlike kuddles, I wouldn't touch EAStore even if my body parts have been donated to science. There is just no justification that could make me give money to EAStore. Period. If that is the only place in the world a game could be gotten, then it's not a game worth playing. By definition.

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Dysplastic wrote:
They even have a disclaimer that says that the price in CAD is just an estimate based on current exchange rates and might not be what it actually is.

This is one thing that actually bothers me a bit about Impulse. I wish there was a switch where I can choose which currency the prices are displayed in.

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I also dig Steam the most, mostly because of consolidation and so that I can see all my games in one place.

If it's only a matter of seeing all of your games, you can add non-Steam games to your Steam list. Regardless of where they came from. Steam won't be able to update them and such, but you'll have them all in the same list.

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Tkyl wrote:
So I've got a question about Steam. Everyone always says that to play games you've downloaded on Steam, you need to have an internet connection so it can authenticate the games to allow you to play. However, I have never, ever had an issue with playing the games I've downloaded on my laptop when I don't have an internet connection. I simply start Steam in offline mode and everything still works. Does it really not work like this for everyone else?

It's wonky. There's a specific procedure but even that doesn't always work for me. If I shut down the computer with Steam in online mode, and then restart the computer without a network connection, most of the time it won't let me go into offline mode.

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Tkyl wrote:
So I've got a question about Steam. Everyone always says that to play games you've downloaded on Steam, you need to have an internet connection so it can authenticate the games to allow you to play. However, I have never, ever had an issue with playing the games I've downloaded on my laptop when I don't have an internet connection. I simply start Steam in offline mode and everything still works. Does it really not work like this for everyone else?

It's wonky. There's a specific procedure but even that doesn't always work for me. If I shut down the computer with Steam in online mode, and then restart the computer without a network connection, most of the time it won't let me go into offline mode.

The way it's supposed to work (I think) is that offline only works for 3-4 days before you have to re-validate. That's good enough for me, but I do prefer Impulses (and GOG) hands off style.

I have heard a lot of different things from different people. Maybe it's a very nitpicky functionality, or changes from game to game?

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It's wonky. There's a specific procedure but even that doesn't always work for me. If I shut down the computer with Steam in online mode, and then restart the computer without a network connection, most of the time it won't let me go into offline mode.

That's because it has to manually make the switch in the client as to how it's authenticating your info, so having it online as default and then restarting your computer and refusing to sign in is seen as suspicious. If you select the option when you enter your login username and password for it to save that locally, then it will have no problems going into offline mode randomly. Or at least that's how it works for me.

If you're uncomfortable with that for security reasons, you can set Steam in the options menu to automatically start in offline mode when you log in until you tell it otherwise, or you can tell Steam to sign out of online and into offline before rebooting. Either option should make offline mode work fine, so long as the game you're playing is up to date.

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I also dig Steam the most, mostly because of consolidation and so that I can see all my games in one place.

If it's only a matter of seeing all of your games, you can add non-Steam games to your Steam list. Regardless of where they came from. Steam won't be able to update them and such, but you'll have them all in the same list.

What I meant was I like to see all the games I OWN in one place, not all the games I have installed.
I could see myself, 3 years from now, thinking - "I want to replay Bioshock - where did I buy that from again?" - and having to go through 4 different sites looking for it. That's what's annoying.

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I also like Steam the best, the in-game chat and web surfing is great, along with great weekend deals, I've bought a TON of games from Steam.

I bought Mass Effect from GoGamer loader when it first came out because it was the only place I could find that didn't have a country restriction on where I was living. Haven't bought anything else from them though.

GoG is awesome, and because they are just starting out and seem like actual gamers who enjoy what they're doing, I prefer to buy from them if I can instead of Steam just because I want to keep them in business.

Gamersgate I guess has been around for a long time now, but I just found out about them recently. Not the fastest downloads, but still pretty decent. I've bought the Gothic pack from them along with a pre-order for NBA2k10.

I've used D2D as well for a few years. I usually prefer to buy from Steam, but if D2D has a better price, I'll buy from them.

I've never bought anything from Impulse other than Titan Quest for my friend. Seems decent, but that's the only experience I've had with them.

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Dysplastic wrote:
What I meant was I like to see all the games I OWN in one place, not all the games I have installed.
I could see myself, 3 years from now, thinking - "I want to replay Bioshock - where did I buy that from again?" - and having to go through 4 different sites looking for it. That's what's annoying.

Agreed. I like having one client where most of my games are kept anyways, and all I have to do is click on the name and it'll start downloading and be fully patched. No fiddling with different services, discs, keycodes, etc.

Which reminds me of another thing Impulse needs to fix: I have to run the Impulse client to download and install the game anyways, as well as enter my username, why do I first have to manually input my serial key sent to me seperately then? A minor niggle, I admit, but still...

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I use anything but Impulse. I can never forget that they originally bundled Impulse with the Impulse Dock. I know they've corrected that and I must a hardliner extremist stick-in-the-mud. So be it. The idea that I have to install crapware in order to enjoy the games I've purchased just doesn't sit well with me.

In order to play a game, I had to have the behavior of my OS fundamentally altered by the Dock. I simply cannot fathom the business meeting where Brad Wardell & Co. thought that would be well received by anyone. Steam, D2D, and others have yet to display such a substantial mis-read of their audience like that.

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Dysplastic wrote:
What I meant was I like to see all the games I OWN in one place, not all the games I have installed.

I see. I'm sorry I misunderstood what you mean.

kuddles wrote:
Which reminds me of another thing Impulse needs to fix: I have to run the Impulse client to download and install the game anyways, as well as enter my username, why do I first have to manually input my serial key sent to me seperately then? A minor niggle, I admit, but still...

I don't recall ever having to do that on Impulse. But I do recall having to do it on Steam.

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MoonDragon wrote:
I don't recall ever having to do that on Impulse. But I do recall having to do it on Steam.

Maybe I'm just unlucky with the titles I chose? I bought five games off their service and had to manually enter all of their serials into it after it was sent to me in an email a few hours later. Of course, one of them insisted my serial key for Elven Legacy was for some weird app, and that took about three weeks of email tag to fix it.

Then there was the problem after that where they somehow attached my account to a second email address related to the one I use for Paypal, resulting in me having to enter one email address into the system just to get my games to appear, click through a bunch of error messages, then go back and enter my other one to be allowed to access those games.

Add that to my original problem with Gal Civ II from the stores, and I don't know whether to laugh or cry that there are only four transactions in my life where I ever experienced any issue related to copy protection/DRM, and they are the four transactions related to Stardock.

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I love Steam and have never had a problem with offline mode. When I'm playing Left 4 Dead my wife might want to play Plants vs Zombies so she disconnects her internet connection and starts up steam in offline mode. I've never seen it require a connection after a set number of days either.

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