Roman Polanski Arrested

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As the title says, Roman Polanski has been arrested in Zurich, and is likely awaiting extradition to the States, to be sentenced for having sex with a 13-year-old in 1977. He pled guilty in the case, but fled to France the day before sentence was passed down, and has lived there ever since, thus far not setting foot on US soil again.

I find this case more fascinating than anything else. While I think the man did something unconscionable, I find it hard to get worked up over crimes older than I am. How do the rest of you feel? Better justice delayed than justice eluded, or has it been far too long?

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He was getting away with rape. Throw him in prison.

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There's pretty good evidence that the judge was biased and the trial was stacked against him. The victim has repeatedly asked that the prosecution be dropped, and said that the demand by a judge that he show up in person to appeal his verdict was completely ridiculous.

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I find it hard to get worked up over crimes older than I am.

What about if the 13-year old was your own flesh and blood; your sister or your daughter? Your family would have to deal with that trauma every day AND know that Polanski is (well now, was) living a relatively normal life and got completely away with it. Then ask yourself if you think it has been too long for him to go to prison.

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Your family would have to deal with that trauma every day

Again: the victim has asked that the case be dropped.

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What Roman Polanski did is indefensible, but I can't help thinking that our law-enforcement efforts would be better spent elsewhere.

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Malor wrote:
There's pretty good evidence that the judge was biased and the trial was stacked against him. The victim has repeatedly asked that the prosecution be dropped, and said that the demand by a judge that he show up in person to appeal his verdict was completely ridiculous.

Was there a trial? According to the article, he plead guilty, he wasn't convicted by the court.

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What was he even thinking in leaving France in the first place?

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Lucky Wilbury wrote:
What about if the 13-year old was your own flesh and blood; your sister or your daughter?

Then that'd be an entirely different situation, now wouldn't it? And I'm not sure what the use of contemplating that situation would be.

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What was he even thinking in leaving France in the first place?

Apparently, he visited Switzerland all the time, and even owned a house there. The prosecutors in LA say this time they just happened to have enough notice that he'd be in country to get the extradition balls rolling.

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Dimmerswitch wrote:
What Roman Polanski did is indefensible, but I can't help thinking that our law-enforcement efforts would be better spent elsewhere.

I don't think so. If someone rapes a 13 year old child our enforcement efforts should be spent on that.

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Was there a trial? According to the article, he plead guilty, he wasn't convicted by the court.

He claims that he and the prosecutors reached a deal for him to plead guilty, but when it came time to do the sentencing the judge was going to rewrite the deal. So he fled. (I have no idea whether this is true.)

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Put him on trial for Powder...the bastard.

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Netflix Instant View has Roman Polanski: Wanted and Desired available. It's a pretty in-depth documentary about the crime and trial. It makes it pretty clear that Polanski is a scumbag that is plenty guilty of the crime, but that the shenanigans of the judge basically let Polanski get off nearly scott-free. Once the judge realized that he was going to be tarred and feathered in the press, he decided that at the final sentencing portion of the trial, he was going to go back on his agreement (which was legal for him to do) and sentence Polanski to a legitimate prison for a legitimate length of time.

What the judge had done was let Polanski use a very lax diagnostic prison, in which Polanski was allowed to leave and continue making movies, which would be considered time served. It was a farce, but Polanski himself is to blame for the judge going back on his word. While in Europe, Polanski allowed himself to be photographed with young models and partying it up. At that point, the jig was up.

Definitely worth watching before making too many judgments about the case.

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Toss him in jail.

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FSeven wrote:
Put him on trial for Powder...the bastard.

Polanski had nothing to do with that movie, you're thinking of another child-molesting director.

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Put him on trial for Powder...the bastard.

Polanski had nothing to do with that movie, you're thinking of another child-molesting director.

Good call...have to get my pedophile directors straight.

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Ulairi wrote:
Dimmerswitch wrote:
What Roman Polanski did is indefensible, but I can't help thinking that our law-enforcement efforts would be better spent elsewhere.

I don't think so. If someone rapes a 13 year old child our enforcement efforts should be spent on that.

I think he should be prosecuted but in an age of limited resources for law enforcement I would much rather have them working on stopping active threats.

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farley3k wrote:
Ulairi wrote:
Dimmerswitch wrote:
What Roman Polanski did is indefensible, but I can't help thinking that our law-enforcement efforts would be better spent elsewhere.

I don't think so. If someone rapes a 13 year old child our enforcement efforts should be spent on that.

I think he should be prosecuted but in an age of limited resources for law enforcement I would much rather have them working on stopping active threats.

How do we know he's not an active threat?

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Not quite sure why having the victim want the case dropped matters. Crimes are about the state vs the accused. There is a major public interest. Also, very rare in rapes that the victim wants to bring prosecution(for myriad reasons, many of them psychological), but rapists still need to be brought to justice.

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What I find really revolting about this whole case isn't Polanski himself, but pleas to acquit him made by very reasonable and respected directors and artists from Cannes.

On the other hand: didn't the victim claimed that she wasn't raped, but law in California automatically classifies sexual intercourse with person below age of fourteen as a rape? Because that's what I've read some time ago.

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LobsterMobster wrote:
farley3k wrote:
Ulairi wrote:
Dimmerswitch wrote:
What Roman Polanski did is indefensible, but I can't help thinking that our law-enforcement efforts would be better spent elsewhere.

I don't think so. If someone rapes a 13 year old child our enforcement efforts should be spent on that.

I think he should be prosecuted but in an age of limited resources for law enforcement I would much rather have them working on stopping active threats.

How do we know he's not an active threat?

Not that I have any sympathy for the child rapist, but one could argue that the fact that he can never enter the United States ever again makes it difficult for him to pose a threat to anyone covered by the jurisdiction of American law enforcement. I still think he needs to face justice, but I think the idea that he is an active threat is a weak one.

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The government doesn't like people running out on prosecutions, threat or no. I'm sure the Euros will come up with a reason for him to stay in Switzerland. But I can't work up all that much sympathy for a child molester even though I really like Chinatown.

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UCRC wrote:
On the other hand: didn't the victim claimed that she wasn't raped, but law in California automatically classifies sexual intercourse with person below age of fourteen as a rape? Because that's what I've read some time ago.

Nope. The victim has repeatedly stated that she doesn't want the case to be prosecuted, but that's different than it not being a rape. And it was clearly rape: here's the victim's grand jury testimony.

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Interesting story on the victim here. It sounds like she doesn't want the hassle of going through a huge trial and having media talk about her and demand interviews 24 hours a day.

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He very clearly raped a 13 year old girl, and most likely not the only one. He got away due to his affluence and a idiot judge. I can understand the victim not wanting to go through another traumatic trial, especially due to her age and in the manner in which she was raped, but this is scumbag needs to face jail time.

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Since he plead guilty, and the only thing left was sentencing, I'm wondering if there would indeed be another trial for her to participate in.

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Since he plead guilty, and the only thing left was sentencing, I'm wondering if there would indeed be another trial for her to participate in.

Not as far as I can tell no (IANAL). Sentence and toss him in.

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Since he plead guilty, and the only thing left was sentencing, I'm wondering if there would indeed be another trial for her to participate in.

I don't think it matters whether it's a trial or a hearing of some kind. I assume there's going to be legal wrangling in Switzerland and here, during which Nancy Grace and the rest of the crime-obsessed cable newsvolk will be engaged in some heavy mouth breathing over the chance to talk about Hollywood, rape, the craven French, etc.

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What about if the 13-year old was your own flesh and blood; your sister or your daughter?

Then that'd be an entirely different situation, now wouldn't it? And I'm not sure what the use of contemplating that situation would be..

I simply posed that as a thought experiment since you said you find it hard to get worked up over an old case. Imagine if your family had gone through it, and the person was never brought to justice.

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Again: the victim has asked that the case be dropped.

Sorry, started writing mine before you posted. Wasn't intentionally ignoring your post. While she can write a letter to the court requesting the case to be dropped, it isn't binding in any sort of way. It was a criminal case, California v. Polanski, meaning the DA office was prosecuting, not just for her, but for society in general. From the articles I've read, she was more concerned with the media fiasco (being hounded day and night, being accused of making it all up, etc.) than with whether or not he was guilty. Keep in mind her family brought Polanski up on civil charges as well that was settled for an undisclosed amount.

Finally, an interesting article on the LA times website stating that the attorneys for Polanski filed dismissal motion in July alledging, among other things, the DA office never tried to extradite him and therefore the case should be dismissed. And seems that the DA office was none to thrilled about being called out on it and finally took action.

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Lucky Wilbury wrote:
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What about if the 13-year old was your own flesh and blood; your sister or your daughter?

Then that'd be an entirely different situation, now wouldn't it? And I'm not sure what the use of contemplating that situation would be..

I simply posed that as a thought experiment since you said you find it hard to get worked up over an old case. Imagine if your family had gone through it, and the person was never brought to justice.

But I don't see any point in that thought experiment, because the answer is so obvious. How would I feel? Mad.

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