Podcast Consistency lately has been all over the place.
I have noticed that lately most of the podcasts that I listen too have been extremely inconsistant as far as quality and entertainment value goes. Very few manage decent shows each and every week. GWJ i think does a great job of keeping it pretty solid on a regular basis and it appears thats quite a feat. I also see consistant quality from COOP which is really excellent.
A life well wasted by Robert Ashley is one of the few podcasts that puts quality first but the downside to that is there is a huge delay between episodes.
2 podcasts I have been listening to specifically have dropped drastically in the last months or so:
Listenup(1upyours): Normally a solid average. They don't seem to ever come to the show without a plan. However since the travesty of a GDC show where a dev ruined the entire thing by blabbering nonsence (he was scottish so it was also hard to understand) its been very hit or miss. John Davison seems to be key. When he is missing Garnet tends to be all over the place and its very easy to get bored.
RebelFM: Has all the makings of a great show and started out very strong. A very very quick dropoff in quality lately though. I don't think I have made it through the last couple. Went from the top of my list to one that i am really getting turned off by.
I am curious what other people have to say about loved podcasts that have really dropped off since you started listening to them. Or perhaps some recommendations of podcasts with a history of quality recordings.
Maybe if I am lucky one of the GWJ voices will drop some insight on the difficulties in preparing a weekly show with consitancy in what it has to offer.
Thanks for your time.
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Making anything consistently good is hard. People get paid millions of dollars to make TV shows that are consistently good and how often does that work out?
It also doesn't help that podcasting is mostly a thankless job with the payoff being INTARWEBZ FAEM. Being a niche online celebrity doesn't put food in the fridge. Thus, it is difficult to keep a crew together as people go off to spend their time on things that will actually make them some money.
Podcasting is also an odd medium that people are still learning how to use. It's like radio, but not.
There will come a time when all of these arty, awesomely produced, professionally put together podcasts will be readily available but that time is still a ways off.
Until the internet can figure out a way of finding viable money-making models for providing content just be happy we get the quality we do out of GWJ and some of our other favored podcasts.
At least that is my take on it.
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Its still amusing, but they don't actually discuss anything like, say, content. I think the problem is that they set their sights too narrow: it would be hard for anyone to talk about TF2 for years and remain enthusiastic about it.
There are a few I would recommend however:
Dial A Stranger - Interesting show where they call random people and ask them questions. Deeper than it sounds.
Galactic Watercooler - This is a good example of a podcast that survived past when it should have. It started As Galactica Watercooler (as in Battlestar Galactica) but they have expanded to sci-fi in general and continue to discuss weighty issues from various shows and movies in an interesting way.
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Yep... and getting the audio quality from each particpant as well as topics and just getting people to show up!
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I thought this post was going to be about last week's conference call, when Julian would occasionaly slip into speaking like a Decepticon.
Back on topic though, I hear you - there's few podcasts that remain in my rotation.
ListenUP has been spotty of late, but it's one of my mainstays, if only for the amount of forward-looking news and discussion on upcoming releases.
RebelFM got deleted a month or so ago. It started out interesting, and quickly devolved into tedium.
Perhaps one of the keys for long-term podcasting is to maintain low expectations? I've been listening to the CAGcast for a couple of years, and it's never anything more than puerile and mediocre. As a result, I never expect more, and I'm never disappointed.
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I actually liked the ListenUP GDC discussion but it did go way into philosophical territory. Last week's episode with Scott Sharkey had a bad start because he seems to just be hating on everything and anything. I find the show to generally be pretty good, mostly because you can feel the passion the people on the show have for what they're talking about and that they really mean what they are saying and they love doing it. They tend to deviate a lot but they often go off in interesting directions. I get the same feeling from Drunken Gamers Radio. I still listen to RebelFM but their quality and ability to stay on point has really fallen off. Honestly, I think their biggest problem is that most of that crew are working now and maintaining the show while also dealing with their day jobs is just putting too big a strain on them. And that is understandable but I think it will cost them some listeners. The show always had a sort of "rough, unpolished, unplugged" feel to it though which I find kind of cool.
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I've noticed that RebelFM's quality seems to depend on the energy level of the crew. Whenever they sound tired and run down is when the show is most interesting (to me). The conversation tends to stick to the subject of games. When they're all wound up the chat often devolves quickly into poop and penis jokes. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I don't generally find it as interesting much of the time.
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I'm actually not a huge fan of A Life Well Wasted, though I keep listening to it anyway. Robert Ashley has a very definite production style that just feels horribly overdone to me. But the content is always good.
It's an old story, but 1Up has bled so much talent since 1Up Yours was at its high point, that it's no surprise that it's slid. I can't bring myself to unsubscribe, but I often don't finish them now, and I even will call up one of the classic old 1Up Yours or GFW Radio eps instead. I use them as soundtracks for games like Fallout and Red Faction.
I stopped listening to Rebel FM too. Conference Call is really the only gaming podcast I look forward to right now, although I'm giving test drives to Idle Thumbs, Rock Paper Shotgun, and Three Moves Ahead.
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Rebel FM was better when no one had jobs. Now they always sound so tired. Anthony is now doing TWO podcasts and it shows. I still like it though, I like the addition of Tyler.
I have plugged it before, but I really like the Talk Radar podcast. They have a lot of fart jokes and use the sound board a little too much, but they are good for a few spit takes a week and one laugh until it hurts moment. Not for everyone, but I recommend you check it out.
I think the best 'cast out there right now is the Giant Bombcast. Consistently great. Add me in for another vote on Idle Thumbs. The CAGcast has it's moments. My favorite segments are when Cheapy talks about his crazy japanese adventures.
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I enjoy Geekbox quite a bit. Its wierd too because they have one of the whinest, most annoying people i have ever heard. I do like it though. Its less about games and more of a pop culture type thing though. Its been fairly consistant in what it offers.
I am amazed at Rebel FM. There was a time it was #1 on itunes. It was setup to be a monster. Somehow it turned into an unguided mess of poop jokes and immaturity.
I am going to check out Giant Bombcast and idle thumbs based on some recommendations.
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I've just discovered Experience Points, which based on the 2 episodes I've listened to, is doing something different from the usual videogame podcast.
And while it's not a gaming podcast, You Look Nice Today is one of the most consistent podcasts - it nearly always gets me chuckling along with the lunacy.
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Listen Up needs to find good 4th chair. Garnett is a good host. John Davison is one of the best at analyzing and explaining industry trends and practices along with his view on games. Dave Ellis is decent as the "hardcore" gamer. They need someone as a 4th chair with a unique perspective. Patrick Klepic was good. I think they should give Matt Leone a shot. It seems like they want Sam Kennedy, but I hope not. He is kind of bland.
My favorite gaming podcast is Idle Thumbs. It's always quality. They are a little different too because they aren't focused on new releases and playing the new hot game. They have about 30 episodes so far. I think they scrapped one or two episodes they recorded because they sucked. The host of Idle Thumbs, Chris Remo, is on The Conference Call this week, so i hope it leads to more people checking out Idle Thumbs.
I think the Mobcast has potential. They only have about 10 episode so far, but they have a little different format and I think it will be great when it hits its stride.
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It may, it needs to improve its audio quality though.
What sort of prep work keeps a show quality over time though? Its got to be more than strength of the personalities I think. You need to really see what the trends are, what people want to discuss. You also need to be able to recognize when a topic is turning into something that takes away from the show instead of adding to it.
Thats something that great podcasts do well I think. Being able to instictivly tell when things are sliding off and getting them back on track.
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I listen to the Listen Up podcast once in a while. I like the English guy whose name I can't remember.
This show, Giant Bomb, VGNRadio and Drunken Gamers Radio are all consistent with their quality of shows.
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Rebel FM and Listen UP were always horrible though so I don't see the problem.
The only podcast that has jumped the shark for me lately is actually geekbox, but that's more about me growing tired of the hosts then the hosts actually doing anything "wrong".
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I was listening to this show on the road Monday and it's the first time I wanted to post and ask that a guest never return. There's people who pepper their speech with curse words and then there's the guys who sound like they're 18, fresh out of high school and off to college. No parents to frown upon their choice of words, so they swear because they can. It sounded extremely immature. I actually noticed he was gone before the end of the first segment, and I was fine with Garnett, John and David. They only dropped a minor blurb at the end that he had left.
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I listen to a lot of podcasts to get me through the night at work and the best and most consistent is most definitely the conference call. I would also go along with several of the posters and recommend Drunken Gamers, Giant Bombcast, the Geekbox, and the Mobcast. Some of my other favourites are Gamespot Present the Hotspot and the IGN output of Gamescoop, Beyond and 3 Red Lights (though this is mainly for entertainment value rather than news or discussion)
I have tried a lot of others and after giving each several episodes to try to hook me I find that the main thing that puts me off is how although each are group efforts, one voice generally dominates and the others in the group defer to them which becomes very tedious very quickly, the latest to do this to me is In Game Chat.
I have also tried Three Moves Ahead and although I enjoy the concept of the show I've found myself toying with the unsubscribe button purely because of the superior attitude of the hosts. I excuse Rabbit from this though as he comes across as the same down to earth guy as he is on the conference call.
I think that any kind of podcast is going to have peaks and troughs in standards and sometimes it's worth giving a new show a good 5 or 6 episodes (if you can afford the time) before you can really decide on it's quality and whether it's for you or not.
Idel Thumbs is going to have to go into the podcast queue, but I'm still having a good time with the Giant Bombcast (as their off-the-cuff-snark a cut above the rest).
Out of the Game has been interesting, but I haven't seen a new episode in a while, so I have no idea if that's still being produced.
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I'm not sure either, but the one thing I do know is that the audio quality is consistantly bad.
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I would like to suggest the EA podcast, hosted by Jeff Green. He had his friend Dana, not gonna try that last name. Some of his tangents remind me of Garnett having to beg and steal to get people on.
This week had more shop talk than many might like. But if they can take advantage of all the awesome personalities at EA, then it will be a very good podcast-Paul Barnett, Rod Humble, Peter Moore.
Part of your issue might be repetition. Rebel FM, Giant Bomb, 1up have a lot of overlap. Often you will hear the same news and impressions 3 or 4 times a week. It is rather like Watching MSNBC, Fox, CNN and all they do is throw up what Reuters or AP posts.
Also, gaming podcasts suffer in the summer. Not a lot of new stuff to talk about. This is when Rebel FM's backlog or Giant Bomb's endurance runs need to carry the show.
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I liked Geekbox a lot when it started. Lately it has seemed repetitive, though, and last week's was completely awful. It sounded like Ryan was eating caramel during the podcast. I turned it off ten minutes in.
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That is an instant add for me just on the strength of Jeff Green. He is awesome.
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I like geekbox because of the subject matter, and I like the personalities on the show. Also they've kept up the consistency much better than the Rebel FM crew has.
The only reason that I don't unsubscribe to RebelFM is gameclub. I love the concept and I enjoy the process. But I've started skip the typical dick and poop joke episodes. I feel like they found a joke that they think is hilarious but is actually just grating and they refuse to give it up. If gameclub had it's own stream I would be a much happier listener.
I love the Giantbombcast. The audio quality is consistently good and the crew has great personality. One note if you're new to the bombcast, they go on tangents all the time. The difference between the bombcast and the RebelFM podcast is that the bombcast tangents are usually really funny and are an addition to the content rather than a detractor.
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My favorite podcast right now is Jordan, Jesse, Go! It's two of the most charming improv comedy guys talking about whatever comes to their minds. It's a lot like You Look Nice Today (and the hosts of both are all friends), except its based more on self-deprecation of the hosts' personal lives, reviews of things they've seen/done, and conversations with comedians and entertainers they bring on to guest host. They are the friendliest, funniest people I listen to via podcast, audio quality is stellar, and they have high-five contests and their very own Boner Society. What more do they need?
Despite their atrocious leveling and trouble with lag etc, Out Of The Game and is currently my favourite. It has all the people I used to listen to the 1UP podcasts for, and is interesting as hell every time. Going to have to check out the GiantBombcast now, the way you guys are talking about it.
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Out of the Game is put out every 2 weeks roughly so don't look for it every week. The production is horrible but the cast is so full of awesome that I feel compelled to download it. Much like the conference call each member is distinct and brings their own voice to the table.
The 1up podcasts are structured well and Garnett Lee is a decent host but the show is rarely...I dunno...different. It just feels sort of bland. I think without Garnett Lee there the podcast would consist of 1 hour of white noise with an occasional nervous cough or titter. He seems like the only one that has a distinct personality.
Geekbox I still listen to occasionally to kill time but the fixation on BUrn Notice and Lost causes me to skip large chunks of it. I don't know how long I'll keep listening to it.
Drunken Gamers is a fun broadcast and is dependably amusing.
You gotta mix in some non-gaming casts though.
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I just recently started listening to Giant Bombcast, but was immediately drawn to it. Sometimes the sarcasm and bullsh*t get so thick, I think it must be what it's like listening to me talk.
If you want a less game-centric podcast check out Extralife Radio. More of a general geekery thing. Some gaming, some movies, some comics. At first I wasn't sure what to think of it, but it really grew on me over a couple episodes.
I can always count on Kevin Smith to make me laugh out loud with the smodcast as well.
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