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Thought I'd share this e-mail that I fired off to the netherworld of GameFly today. Thought the other Gamefly subscribers out there might get a kick. This is the text of my customer support query:

Dear Gamefly,

Hi. So, as I was given to understand our relationship it works thus: I give you guys money and then you guys ship me video games. Perhaps my perspective on this is naive. As I have a 3 game plan to which I recently "upgraded" -- note the use of sarcastic quotes for added effect; imagine that I am making them in the air with my fingers -- I anticipated that by shelling out more greenbacks you would actually send me 3 games at a time. This was, after all, why I decided to pay your company more money against the advice of my guru and the guy down at the car wash with the funny teeth.

Yet, with 6 games currently in my GameQ -- forgiving for the moment that the word is actually queue -- it seems that GameFly is Cheers to taking my money, but Jeers to giving me that prized and mythical third game. True, the fault may be mine for choosing game titles released since the Carter administration, but I am a hopeless romantic for the new and exciting. I also like long walks on the beach, but I think we can both agree that's beside the point.

I don't actually expect that anything will change. At some point I'll get tired of paying extra for essentially the dream of some mythical third game out at a time. Having read plenty of criticism of the GameFly service before, I knew what this was when I joined -- a torrid and dysfunctional relationship full of endless promises and soul-crushing disappointment. I can only assume you guys are run by my tenth grade girlfriend. Please tell her I'm sorry for what I did to her locker, and that I wasn't the one who spread that rumor about syphilis.

If you guys get around to buying more than seven copies of Tiger Woods, it'd be cool if you could send me one. With much love,

Sean

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I tip my hat to you, sir. Very well done.

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I heartily approve of sending scathingly sarcastic emails to companies. Good job sir!

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More proof that Elysium is full of awesome sauce.

You do realize that if their reply is at all interesting (in a good or bad way), you'll have to post it as well.

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Elysium, as always you can take even a customer service complaint and make it a work of literary genius.

Man, I've had some issues with GameAccess.ca up here lately and I was under the impression that GameFly is what they were aspiring to be. I've had problems being without my third game for long stretches before but they usually try to make things right and give me a credit of some kind if they can't. GF seems to be quite a bit worse.

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Not just Gamefly, Gameznflix sucked a rooster's balls as well. I had a two at a time subscription, and during a two month period they sent me one game, which I promptly returned because it was about 15th on my list. They refunded a month's subscription fee to me, but didn't fix the problem. Then I found steam and world of warcraft, and all was right in the world again.

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I'm about to cancel my own subscription to Gamefly.

At the moment I'm basically playing games they send me because they sent them and not because I really want to. The one exception to that is Ghostbusters, but that's the one fluke in probably the last 6 months. I could have bought Ghostbusters on the PC for $30 and saved five months worth of my gamefly subscription.

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I've been on the fence about getting a Gamefly sub for the last few months, and but this has pretty much put me off.

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Maybe it is just me, but it seems like sending off sarcastic emails to customer service really isn't the way to accomplish anything. Unless you just did it to make yourself feel better and aren't actually expecting a response. In which case I would've just posted it and not actually sent it; I guess I find that type of email a little rude.

I'm still a big fan of Gamefly. I get brand new games shipped out the day they release and get to keep them at a discount if I like them. I'm not sure I've ever had to wait more than a day or two to get a game shipped out to me but I make sure to manage my queue to maximize the benefits I get from the service. I've been a member for over four years now and have been satisfied the whole time.

Yeah, they need more distribution centers. Yeah, they could use more copies of games. I think they have many more challenges than something like Netflix, though, so I'm willing to cut them some slack. All of my frustration has come from the post office's poor handling of Gamefly, not Gamefly itself.

It always surprises me to hear people have such bad experiences with Gamefly. It's like we're using two different services.

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Here is my replacement for Gamefly.

1. Buy game at full price soon after release.

2. Play for one week, or less if it sucks.

3. Get wife to sell game on Ebay, get back 75-90% of the full price of the game.

If you manage the Ebay window correctly, you will pay less per month than whatever you are giving Gamefly. Or at least not that much more.

You can also apply this principle from the other side for Netflix. What I do there is

1. Find movie for $5 at the local used DVD store.

2. Watch movie.

3. Throw movie away.

This is also cheaper per month then Netflix for a small number of movies.

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Dreaded Gazebo wrote:
It always surprises me to hear people have such bad experiences with Gamefly. It's like we're using two different services.

It really is. I think I've gotten a new release game twice in the last two years, even with careful queue management. Can we switch subscriptions?

I have a feeling that it comes down to the distribution centers. The one in Tampa is awful. They rarely have any of the games in my queue in stock, which is a mercy as it somehow takes 5+ days for me to receive games they've sent, or for them to acknowledge games I've sent back. It's literally faster if they ship them from the Pittsburgh center 500 miles further away.

Still, having the subscription saves me money in preventing me from being tempted to buy games. As long as I can (theoretically) get it from Gamefly at some point, why spend $60?

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psu_13 wrote:

You can also apply this principle from the other side for Netflix. What I do there is

1. Find movie for $5 at the local used DVD store.

2. Watch movie.

3. Throw movie away.

This is also cheaper per month then Netflix for a small number of movies.

Indeed. But I would argue that the Instant Streaming feature of Netflix is what makes it worth the money. More so because relying on the streaming means that we only pay 9 bucks a month for a single-DVD-at-a time plan.

The wife and I use the DVDs to fill the gaps in what they offer for streaming. Often, weeks will go by with us not watching a DVD, but watching a crap-ton of stuff on streaming.

It's especially paying for itself as the wife is off work convalescing from surgery. Netflix may well be the only thing stopping her from going 100% cabin-crazy.

The downside? Sometimes I can't near the 360 for love nor money.

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This thread has made my day.

It seems unfathomable to me that they find it so difficult to offer a halfway decent service. I see some of you ragging on Netflix, but I'd KILL for service like that from Gamefly! Three days turnaround time on a game would make me so very happy, as would the slightly better in-stock stuff. But I digress, the point of my post is to agree with Elysium and try to converge my frustration with his, in the hope that, somewhere in L.A. the guys in charge at Gamefly feel our ethereal hate emanating from beyond a dark horizon.

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Quote:
Maybe it is just me, but it seems like sending off sarcastic emails to customer service really isn't the way to accomplish anything. Unless you just did it to make yourself feel better and aren't actually expecting a response.

I figure there's one of 2 things going to happen.

1) Nothing.
2) The guy who has to read the e-mail gets a grin out of my e-mail, followed by nothing.

I'm dissatisfied with their service. I could get really mad, and that wouldn't be any more fun to read. At least this way, maybe I distinguish myself and someone does something. If not, then I just cancel my account. I suspect if you were having my consistent experience you might feel differently. I'm glad you're getting the most from your account, but I've paid a months worth of a 3 game plan and only had 2 games. I figure that sarcastic e-mail cost me $4.00, so I'm on the losing end of that deal.

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Elysium wrote:
Quote:
Maybe it is just me, but it seems like sending off sarcastic emails to customer service really isn't the way to accomplish anything. Unless you just did it to make yourself feel better and aren't actually expecting a response.

I figure there's one of 2 things going to happen.

1) Nothing.
2) The guy who has to read the e-mail gets a grin out of my e-mail, followed by nothing.

I'm dissatisfied with their service. I could get really mad, and that wouldn't be any more fun to read. At least this way, maybe I distinguish myself and someone does something. If not, then I just cancel my account. I suspect if you were having my consistent experience you might feel differently. I'm glad you're getting the most from your account, but I've paid a months worth of a 3 game plan and only had 2 games. I figure that sarcastic e-mail cost me $4.00, so I'm on the losing end of that deal.

Bitch about them on Twitter. Seriously. I made a post complaining about Gamefly being unable to send me the ONE game on my list, and Gamefly customer service contacted me through Twitter an hour later. Sort of eerie, but I got my game.

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Does gamefly shipping still take 3 days? I had it about 2 years ago and it was horrible. Send a game away on monday, they get it thursday, they send one out friday and I get my game tuesday. Wasnt worth the $15 or w/e it was.

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Elysium wrote:
Quote:
Maybe it is just me, but it seems like sending off sarcastic emails to customer service really isn't the way to accomplish anything. Unless you just did it to make yourself feel better and aren't actually expecting a response.

I figure there's one of 2 things going to happen.

1) Nothing.
2) The guy who has to read the e-mail gets a grin out of my e-mail, followed by nothing.

Actually, I've had companies respond positively to comically sarcastic emails that I've sent to them before. Sometimes with a form letter and a discount coupon, but a couple of times, with a phone call from an amused customer service rep, who I've ended up having a really enjoyable conversation with.

Think about it, if your job is to respond to pissed-off people all day, having the opportunity to have a laugh with someone for a change is great!

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I'm getting frustrated with my newly opened Gamefly account already. Not a sniff of a game released within the last 6 months, not shipping the game that is at the top of my queue even though it's listed as available. I feel like they've assigned a special Gamefly game choosing monkey to watch my queue and randomly pick a game to be shipped out. This particular monkey has been trained, however, to not ship me any new release games. You'd think they would want to give a good first impression to new subscribers.

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Great email, no doubt it stands out from all the generic angry emails they probably get.

I don't think I'll be using Gamefly much longer myself. I never get the games I really want from them and the turn around time for getting a game is at least a week. The did actually ship me the Conduit yesterday, which is the first time I've ever gotten a new release from them. The Conduit wasn't even at the top of my list though, it was like number 5 of 9.

I wish there was a game rental service that was as reliable as Netflix, I've never had an kind of issue with them.

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I wrote the same thing last week to them, just not as eloquently.

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Elysium wrote:
and that I wasn't the one who spread that rumor about syphilis.

I think we have a new "eagle semen."

I don't think anything could ever top eagle semen, ever.

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You can also apply this principle from the other side for Netflix. What I do there is

1. Find movie for $5 at the local used DVD store.

2. Watch movie.

3. Throw movie away.

This is also cheaper per month then Netflix for a small number of movies.

This only works if you don't use instant watch, and take forever to watch a movie. In general, my wife and I can easily go through 4-5 movies a month on the 1 disc at a time plan. We could easily go to 2 at a time, still do instant watch, and come out even further ahead of this than we are already.

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I too am a Gamefly member and share in some of your misery. I've always had the one game subscription and have been managing my queue well enough to get $17 worth of play (or more each month).

I really wish there was a video game equivalent of the Red Box. Love those machines!

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93_confirmed wrote:
I too am a Gamefly member and share in some of your misery. I've always had the one game subscription and have been managing my queue well enough to get $17 worth of play (or more each month).

I really wish there was a video game equivalent of the Red Box. Love those machines!

My campus actually has a GameFly box like this.

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Jonman wrote:
Elysium wrote:
Quote:
Maybe it is just me, but it seems like sending off sarcastic emails to customer service really isn't the way to accomplish anything. Unless you just did it to make yourself feel better and aren't actually expecting a response.

I figure there's one of 2 things going to happen.

1) Nothing.
2) The guy who has to read the e-mail gets a grin out of my e-mail, followed by nothing.

Actually, I've had companies respond positively to comically sarcastic emails that I've sent to them before. Sometimes with a form letter and a discount coupon, but a couple of times, with a phone call from an amused customer service rep, who I've ended up having a really enjoyable conversation with.

Think about it, if your job is to respond to pissed-off people all day, having the opportunity to have a laugh with someone for a change is great!

Back in the late 90's, I was having a problem with a Creative Labs CD-ROM drive that wasn't working. I couldn't get through on their customer service line (for which I had to pay long distance charges and sit on hold for ~60 minutes at a time before hanging up in frustration) and just needed to get warranty service. Since this was in the days before spam (can you even remember when spam was not a problem?), I was able to troll around on the web for a few minutes and managed to find email addresses for the CEO and a lot of the executive staff. I sent a polite email letter to everyone at the company whose email address I could find, explaining the problems. The next day I had people calling me up and offering to send me a replacement drive quickly. For the next two weeks I was getting emails from people at that company asking if they could help me. I imagine it is a lot harder today to get email addresses for executives, but it sure worked like a charm for me.

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Two things:

One, this GameFly FAQ entry:

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Q: Why wasn't I shipped the top game in my GameQ?

A: We always strive to ship you the top title in your GameQ first. If the top title in your GameQ is not available, we will ship the next title that is available to get you your next game rental as quickly as possible.

We recommend keeping at least 10 titles in your GameQ at all times to ensure nonstop gaming!

Without fail, every single time I read someone's complaints about not getting games shipped, they have < 10 games in their queue.

It seems that it's more than just a "have more games in your queue in case the first one's not available" thing. Gamefly appears to ding you if you don't keep that queue above the 10 marker.

Luckily, unreleased games count. Keep your queue filled with unreleased games, and put the released games you want at the top. Has worked perfectly for me for years now.

But there's more reason than that to put those future games on your list:

Quote:
Q: Can I reserve a game before it has been released?

A: If we plan on carrying a game, we will have the information available on our site as soon as we can. You may put future releases in your GameQ well ahead of time to make sure you are higher on the list of priority when the game is officially released.

If a future release is in the #1 spot in your GameQ and you return a game, we will simply skip over it and send you the next available game in your GameQ.

This, friends, is why I am getting games and you are not.

Something like E3 comes around, I see lots of cool games coming up, I put them on my queue. Puts me way over the 10 mark, and all that time, I'm getting myself at the top of the "priority" list.

Like it or not, GameFly is all about the queue concept, not the "a new game just came out, so I'm throwing it to the top of my list and I expect to get it" concept.

Dig through that Coming Soon list, add all the games you think you may want to play when they come out - and when they do, you just prune out the ones that reviews say suck.

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Legion is correct, and once again proves the power of that ancient magic known as doing your research.

Amusing letter though Sean.

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Yeah, i'm with Legion... *shudders*.. the rental company i subscribe to says that to make sure you get the games you want then you need at least 10 games in your queue, preferrably 15 and not to expect immediate access to new games due to demand. I got 'The Wheelman' approx 20 days after it was released but i didn't get it the previous shipment which was just after release, instead i got something further down my list.... something abominable (Bullet Witch) but i knew the caveats that came with the service and they don't bother me.

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Gaming the system like Legion is a great way to run it. It's also a question of your video game burn rate though. Elysium, I imagine you're always on the bleeding edge of games considering you record a weekly podcast about video games and run a website focused on video games. Hell, just the fact that you have a three-out subscription shows you probably play more games in a week than I do in a month (I didn't even use my two-out subscription). I just got sent Chronicles of Riddick and I'm quite happy to play the game. I'll return it in a week or three when I'm done and probably get Prototype or Ghostbusters a month or more after everyone else is over it, but I don't care. They're still fun games and I'm not one to go wax poetic about every game I play. Though I can see how it'd be annoying if you only wanted the new hotness.

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