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Wife bought me XBox 360 for Christmas - Win.

Target had Call of Duty 5 on sale for $40 the week after Christmas - Win.

World at War will not let me play more than a few minutes of single player - freezing the entire system up and necessitating me to get off my lovely couch to reset the system. Lose.

What do I do? How do I troubleshoot this? I've been a PC gamer for years and there are all kind of dark and mystical arts at my disposal. Now on the console I've tried putting the system on it's side, installing the game to the hard drive, not installing to the hard drive, and every combination I can think of for those. I managed to get past the first burning building in the campaign going left instead of right, but now it locks up after the flare/possum trap EVERY TIME. I've played up through a level 5 character online without a single freeze.

What are my options? I'm past the return date for returning the game - do I contact Microsoft, Activision, Target? All of the above?

What does a console gamer do in general when they ram their head into the wall repeatedly on something like this?

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From this page.

Microsoft wrote:

1. Reattach the Xbox Hard Drive.
2. Locate the System section of the Xbox 360 Dashboard.
3. Select Memory, and then press the Y button to view the device options screen.
4. On the Xbox 360 Controller, press the following items in this sequence:
* X button
* X button
* Left bumper
* Right bumper
* X button
* X button
5. When you are prompted to confirm system maintenance, select Yes by pressing the A button.

There's other stuff on this page you might wanna take a look at, like creating a new profile, but this is most likely it.

I hope this helps!

By the way, sorry for not talking to you much when you joined my CoD party last night but my friend doesn't speak english so...

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Try clearing the cache? I forget the button presses, but the instructions are on the xbox.com website.

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It's not the game though, we've played through that section.

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I didn't finish WaW but I did play through that part with no problems. Flush your cache, and then if that doesn't work try playing without the hard drive attached. You might have a bum one. Also do you own any other games? If it's happening consistently across all games, with or without the hard drive, you might have a bum disc drive which is a call to MS Support.

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Mr.Green wrote:

I hope this helps!

Sadly, it did not. It seems to happen not when I cross a specific spot, but right after a specific dialogue plays. I've removed the hard drive image, tried playing from the disc again, had the problem, trying to reinstall the drive image now. I'll dig deeper into other solutions later. This is the *only* game I've experienced this with..

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Did you try giving it bacon? Most things improve with bacon.

Also, obviously you've got this backwards. Your PC is crashing and your 360 is flawlessly chugging along. Everyone knows that's how it works.

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Negman wrote:
Mr.Green wrote:

I hope this helps!

Sadly, it did not. It seems to happen not when I cross a specific spot, but right after a specific dialogue plays. I've removed the hard drive image, tried playing from the disc again, had the problem, trying to reinstall the drive image now. I'll dig deeper into other solutions later. This is the *only* game I've experienced this with..

Maybe you should try deleting your save file. Maybe something got corrupted in the save.

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While you can't return it you can certainly try exchanging it for another copy. Past that it's time to dial up Acitivision/MS and ask what they can do about it . . .

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Hmm. Sucks that this is your experience so early on in your new-found love of console ownership.

Ironically, it's this precise lack of ability to tinker in the bowels of the machine that makes me adore consoles. For me, PC bowel-tinkering is every bit as sh***y as my nomenclature suggests. Makes me want to hurl the machine out of the airlock.

Still, as for a soultion, I would recommend exchanging the disc at the retailer for a new copy.

And avoiding Activision products in future. Activision are the new EA, donchano?

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I think this is just karma's way of punishing you for forsaking the wonderful world of console gaming for so long.

Or it could be your 360's way of begging you to try playing good games instead. ZINGU!

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Jonman wrote:
Ironically, it's this precise lack of ability to tinker in the bowels of the machine that makes me adore consoles. For me, PC bowel-tinkering is every bit as sh***y as my nomenclature suggests. Makes me want to hurl the machine out of the airlock.

I've had Left 4 Dead and Warhammer kick me right out of games or reboot my PC repeatedly. I have no clue what to do. Get more fans maybe? *sigh* what a hassle

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Or it could be your 360's way of begging you to try playing good games instead. ZINGU!

I gotta give World at War some credit for having a co-op campaign. More games need this.

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Do you have other games that work fine or do you only have World at War?

If you google it, it does seem there are scattered reports of CoD: WaW freezing for some people in singleplayer.

Some resolved it by restarting the campaign at a different difficulty level. I guess we were lucky, we didnt have any issues when playing through it. Your best bet is probably deleting your COD WaW save game info from the system and restarting a new campaign. It stinks, but you can probably get back up to lvl 5 in multiplay soon enough.

After applying the update, I remember my son would sometimes see "Save game corrupt, restarting level at beginning" when 'continuing' a game.
I'd never seen a 360 title do that before.

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The_Replacement wrote:
Also, obviously you've got this backwards. Your PC is crashing and your 360 is flawlessly chugging along. Everyone knows that's how it works.

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MechaSlinky wrote:

Or it could be your 360's way of begging you to try playing good games instead. ZINGU!

I do go for a bit of variety. Please feel free to suggest some alternatives, though.

I'll give the save game deletion a shot next. I just wish there were as many sacrificial chicken options with the xbox as the pc. I want to feel like it's within my power to fix crap like this.

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Hmmm..it sounds like a scratched or bad disk, but if you can install it to the hard drive and it doesn't work then, that's probably not it. Try getting another copy of the game somewhere, and see if another disk helps.

Is your multiplayer level tied to your save, or your account? I'd think it would be tied to your account, but I could be wrong.

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I understand the pain here. I bought a console thinking at last I didn't have to worry about tweaking the system to get games to work right on my machine because all the games were designed to operate on the same machine. It's frustrating to get a bug that nobody else seems to be getting.

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interstate78 wrote:

I have no clue what to do. Get more fans maybe? *sigh* what a hassle

I fail to see how becoming more popular will work, unless your new pals are in IT

Personally I tend to have a problem with L4D that drops my internet connection occasionally at random, which is annoying, but i think that's something to with the way Steam interacts with my BT router and not something easily sorted

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TheCounselor wrote:
Hmmm..it sounds like a scratched or bad disk, but if you can install it to the hard drive and it doesn't work then, that's probably not it. Try getting another copy of the game somewhere, and see if another disk helps.

I would give that a try if you haven't yet. It may work from the HD, or a scratched disc may prevent it from installing.

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No way. The ass of War trumps all others.

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Thank you for your blood sacrifices and voodoo rituals, guys.

I deleted the save game and restarted - I got past the trouble point just fine. Huzzah!

Turns out I was only two checkpoints into the game? Sheesh..

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Negman wrote:
Thank you for your blood sacrifices and voodoo rituals, guys.

I deleted the save game and restarted - I got past the trouble point just fine. Huzzah!

Turns out I was only two checkpoints into the game? Sheesh..

Glad you solved your problem. I stopped playing about five levels in because it was too frustrating.

Of course, I could just suck at games...

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Of course, I could just suck at games...

I would say it feels like I'm all thumbs at this game, but I think that would be an advantage.

The double stick will never, ever replace WASD POWER for me. At least until it has as many buttons as my keyboard.

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Negman wrote:
TheCounselor wrote:

Of course, I could just suck at games...

I would say it feels like I'm all thumbs at this game, but I think that would be an advantage.

The double stick will never, ever replace WASD POWER for me. At least until it has as many buttons as my keyboard.

I can understand the mouse worshiping, but the god damn keyboard?

Really?

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I'm going to go ahead and be the ignorant fanboy and say, please don't knock console gaming because you're 360 doesn't work. It WILL inevitably break, and if you had a PS3 or Wii, that would not be the case. I'm a big PC Gamer, as well as a PS3 and Wii owner. Why? Because I too enjoy the fact that my sh*t works, and that I don't have to pay for internet twice. If only that meant I got DLC exclusives like fallout and GTA-lose.

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That save game freeze issue has been reported on both the 360 and PS3, so its just something quirky about WaW. Glad you were able to fix it without losing too much progress. It doesnt happen to most people, but some folks are just unlucky and it glitches.

Don't forget there are tons of GWJers on LIVE, so you can build up a solid friends list over time of people that are online.

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My personal experience is that I've never had anything like the number of bugs, glitches and problems with a console as I have with the 360.

From the overpriced wireless dongle occasionally forgetting that it's connected to the machine, to the OS hanging (in the dash and in-game), to games occasionally freezing. It's not a common occurrance, but previous consoles I've had (and I've had a *lot*) have pretty much worked flawlessly, barring a PS2 whose drive died.

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Farting is also a good sign....If you're not farting, you've got a big, big problem.

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Negman wrote:
MechaSlinky wrote:

Or it could be your 360's way of begging you to try playing good games instead. ZINGU!

I do go for a bit of variety. Please feel free to suggest some alternatives, though.

I've heard good things about RapeLay.

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I read the title of this forum and thought it was "the IMPORTANCE of console gaming." Whoops!

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Mack wrote:
I read the title of this forum and thought it was "the IMPORTANCE of console gaming." Whoops!

Yeah, my wife made the same mistake in reverse. I rolled in over bed, looked deep into my her eyes and told her how important she made me felt. She slapped me and ran out the room crying.

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Farting is also a good sign....If you're not farting, you've got a big, big problem.