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Location: Vancouver, WA, USA, Earth, Milky Way, Universe B

I recently bought a new car. To boost my credit score, I decided to finance my new car. Since I'm 24 I figured it would be best to do my auto insurance through my mother's name and her insurance. Received a temporary 1 month of insurance but was told I had to get the title changed to have my mother's name on it. After dealing with the financier of my car, they told me I would have to refinance my car if I wanted to add another name to the title.

So now I need to go get insurance for myself. I've never gotten insurance just for myself as I've always ridden my parents insurance.

Here are the facts:

- 24 year old driver, college educated(if that matters at all)
- No tickets
- No accidents
- Will be 25 in 4 months
- Works for a company that offers group policies with MetLife(I currently have dental insurance through them) and LibertyMutual
- Family insurance has always been with AllState

Is there a good website that will show me all the insurance companies and what I'll pay? I've heard that Progressive just shows you companies that are typically higher then them. What about group policies, will those save me more money then shopping around would?

Thank you for any advice.

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I have almost every driving offense under my belt including I have to hold SR-22 for 3 years. And not once have they jacked up my rates.

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Location: New York, NY

We have Geico as well and I am happy with them and their rates, although we never had any offenses, had 5+ years of prior coverage and 5+ years of driving experience prior to getting a Geico policy, and only one accident (my wife drove the car but she wasn't at fault).

But does GEICO do business in Canada?

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Location: Western Washington

Are you ex military or is anyone in your family military? USAA would be another viable option if so.

He's in Vancouver, WA not Canada. South side of WA near Portland.

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I'm an insurance adjuster so I have to sound all high and mighty. Just remember, if you're seeing significant differences in the price of auto coverage you really do need to read through a policy before signing up. Generally the lower the cost the more restrictions you're going to have on the policy or the fewer features they're going to offer if you want to look at it another way. Keep an eye out for coverage restrictions in regards to who it covers when they're driving your vehicle and what coverage you're afforded if you're driving someone else's vehicle. As long as you're getting standard carrier insurance through a company like State Farm, Allstate, Geico, etc they shouldn't be too restrictive. For the most part, State Farm usually turns out to be the most expensive coverage but they're also some of the best (and no I don't work for them.) They tend to just pay a claim when you call it in and don't ask too many questions unless it's just something off the wall as most of their coverage is fairly expansive.

If you start going with some of the non-standard carriers (generally for people with less than stellar driving records) like Safeco, Safeway, Infinity, some Progressive policies, etc then you really have to start looking out for odd restrictions. Yeah, they'll be cheaper but it's usually at a price. Also try to get feedback on the claims experience as that's often telling. For instance, E-surance likes to brag about it's low cost but that's because it's almost all done over the phone or by their website. You'll probably never see anyone from the company and they'll use independent appraisers for most of their work which can be iffy depending on who they're using in your area. In short, it often makes getting the information you need tougher as you're always being redirected to their website or another phone extension rather than having one person, on foot, standing in front of you. Of course a lot of companies are going to that kind of model since it's cheaper but still, something to consider.

Oh, and most importantly, make sure you get high limits on the property damage liability and bodily injury portion of your policy, don't just get the state minimums. If you just get the minimum you can end up getting screwed should you be found liable for an accident with any kind of meaningful damage. I hate to sound cliche' but don't skimp on insurance coverage if you can help it. It'll help you avoid lawsuits in the future.

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Location: Cary, NC

Speak with your mother's rep at Allstate. Your history with them will probably give them reason to give you a good deal.

Other than that, I've always had State Farm, in WA state and NC and I've been happy with them.

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Eezy_Bordone wrote:
Are you ex military or is anyone in your family military? USAA would be another viable option if so.

He's in Vancouver, WA not Canada. South side of WA near Portland.

I strongly dislike USAA. In Minnesota, they have a drop-down clause in their policy that states that no matter what level of coverage you purchase, if the person making the claim against you is a family member (e.g. you crash and your wife is injured), then the policy limits drop down to the statutory minimum. Really skeazy.

When I was 24, I got insurance through Farm Bureau. They were much cheaper at the time. When I moved to a less risky demographic, Geico became cheaper.

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In Washington state State Farm was actually significantly cheaper for me than ESurance or Progressive, with better coverage. Call around.

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GEICO.

I have been very happy with their rates, customer service and easy web interface for reviewing my documents and paying my premium.

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I have had nothing but good experiences with USAA, but I have only had to make 1 minor claim through them in the last 5 years so your mileage may vary. Their prices are good and they really had my back from the start.

I am not sure if they are still around but if those assholes at Mercury Insurance are still in business stay far away from them. They did their best to cover their ass and screw me in mine everytime I had to deal with them when I first started driving.

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I have had the same Farmer's Insurance agent forever, and he was my mom's agent since before I was born. I find them to be very happy to help you get exactly what you need and not push for more than that. Also, when things change in life, they are good at helping you figure out how to change your insurance to match.

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I looked into Geico this evening and the rate they quoted me was quite a bit less then what Allstate was telling my mother, with the same amount of coverage. So it looks like Geico due to the low rate and the high praise.

clover wrote:
In Washington state State Farm was actually significantly cheaper for me than ESurance or Progressive, with better coverage. Call around.

I'm amazed by this, I'll have to look into it as I've always believed that State Farm gave the best customer service.

Thanks for the all the info everybody.

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First off, I hate Geico with the passion of a thousand burning suns. They are, hands down, the sleaziest insurance agency I have ever dealt with, including the Maryland Auto Insurance Fund(When you have to have insurance and noone will give it to you).

I've been insured with USAA for the last 6 years, and nobody can come close to beating their rates, including Geico, Progressive and, well, anyone.

As for who's good? State Farm, Allstate, etc. Progressive isn't horrible either.

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By internet law, a post by a dissatisfied customer must be followed by one that's happy with the company. I've had Geico for a long time and haven't had a problem with them. Paid claims twice that I can remember without any problem. Rates have been reasonable.

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Funkenpants wrote:
By internet law, a post by a dissatisfied customer must be followed by one that's happy with the company. I've had Geico for a long time and haven't had a problem with them. Paid claims twice that I can remember without any problem. Rates have been reasonable.

Ah, there in lies the catch. I wasn't a customer. Short version is I was involved in an accident while inbetween insurance policies, and thus, not covered. I was not at fault, but the witch of a woman driver played up kids in the car, stressed, fraught, blah blah blah, despite the fact that she rear ended me, and raked a side mirror down the length of my truck, damage was clearly visible from the mirror, AND she was passing me illegally while speeding, the cop stuck me with fault.

So, Geico hits me with a claim for $2500. Nothing wrong with this, so I pay it, and 6 years later, they come after me again. My mom produced the proof of payment from before, they drop it. 3 years after that, they did it AGAIN. This is a claim that's nearly 9 years old at this point. So yea, they will never get my business, never get the business of anyone I can convince to drop them or not choose them, and will never get the business of anyone in my family.

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Elliottx wrote:
I looked into Geico this evening and the rate they quoted me was quite a bit less then what Allstate was telling my mother, with the same amount of coverage. So it looks like Geico due to the low rate and the high praise.

clover wrote:
In Washington state State Farm was actually significantly cheaper for me than ESurance or Progressive, with better coverage. Call around.

I'm amazed by this, I'll have to look into it as I've always believed that State Farm gave the best customer service.

Thanks for the all the info everybody.

My SF agents in Washington and Indiana were both great. Also, their multi-plan discount roughly equals the cost of renter's insurance so it's like getting your stuff covered for free if you have auto.

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AnimeJ wrote:

Ah, there in lies the catch. I wasn't a customer. Short version is I was involved in an accident while inbetween insurance policies, and thus, not covered. I was not at fault, but the witch of a woman driver played up kids in the car, stressed, fraught, blah blah blah, despite the fact that she rear ended me, and raked a side mirror down the length of my truck, damage was clearly visible from the mirror, AND she was passing me illegally while speeding, the cop stuck me with fault.

So, Geico hits me with a claim for $2500. Nothing wrong with this, so I pay it, and 6 years later, they come after me again. My mom produced the proof of payment from before, they drop it. 3 years after that, they did it AGAIN. This is a claim that's nearly 9 years old at this point. So yea, they will never get my business, never get the business of anyone I can convince to drop them or not choose them, and will never get the business of anyone in my family.

Think of it this way: looks like if you're their customer, they're taking a really good care of you when the at-fault parties need to be shaken down for payments!

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Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Think of it this way: looks like if you're their customer, they're taking a really good care of you when the at-fault parties need to be shaken down for payments!

State Farm's good at that too. I know whenever I have to handle claims where my insured's limits aren't enough to cover damages State Farm is trying to bill us for they almost never settle for less than they're owed. The majority of the time they'll file a suit against our insured to collect every last cent. Most other insurance companies will accept our limits as long as it's anywhere near the ballpark of what they were seeking. Some companies are just naturally more aggressive in their collections process.

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Kehama wrote:
Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Think of it this way: looks like if you're their customer, they're taking a really good care of you when the at-fault parties need to be shaken down for payments!

State Farm's good at that too. I know whenever I have to handle claims where my insured's limits aren't enough to cover damages State Farm is trying to bill us for they almost never settle for less than they're owed. The majority of the time they'll file a suit against our insured to collect every last cent. Most other insurance companies will accept our limits as long as it's anywhere near the ballpark of what they were seeking. Some companies are just naturally more aggressive in their collections process.

Collecting what you're owed is one thing. Suing for above and beyond that because you can fills me with rage.

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Another vote for USAA. I've been with them since 1998 when I switched from Progressive to USAA whilst in the military. I cannot rate them highly enough. I've had a couple of claims with them over the years, do all of my banking and investing with them, and have had nothing but an excellent experience every time I've needed to talk to them. An added bonus for me is that they're very military focused, so they have a number of programs and policies with that in mind. If you can beg, borrow, or steal an insurance membership with USAA (their banking/investing is open to the public due to federal law), do so!

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USAA customer here.

Never filed any claims -knock on wood- so I don't know how they handle that, but I've got my car loan through them as well.

They've got great rates.

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Location: Vancouver, WA, USA, Earth, Milky Way, Universe B

Unfortunately the last person in my family that was in the military was my late grandfather. So USAA isn't an option.

I contacted State Farm today and they offered me better rates then AllState but not quite as good as Geico. They're pretty much a solid $100 more for the same coverage that Geico offers.

So the big question is, is State Farm's customer service that much better then Geico's that it's worth an extra $200 a year? It's getting to be an easy question when I write it out like that, but I just have an opinion of State Farm that there insurance is the best.

Maybe a lower Bodily Injury Liability(BI) with State Farm to makeup for expense? Or is having $100,000/$300,000 the safe standard option?

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Elliottx wrote:
Unfortunately the last person in my family that was in the military was my late grandfather. So USAA isn't an option.

I contacted State Farm today and they offered me better rates then AllState but not quite as good as Geico. They're pretty much a solid $100 more for the same coverage that Geico offers.

So the big question is, is State Farm's customer service that much better then Geico's that it's worth an extra $200 a year? It's getting to be an easy question when I write it out like that, but I just have an opinion of State Farm that there insurance is the best.

Maybe a lower Bodily Injury Liability(BI) with State Farm to makeup for expense? Or is having $100,000/$300,000 the safe standard option?

I generally go with the legal minimums.

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AnimeJ wrote:
Funkenpants wrote:
By internet law, a post by a dissatisfied customer must be followed by one that's happy with the company. I've had Geico for a long time and haven't had a problem with them. Paid claims twice that I can remember without any problem. Rates have been reasonable.

Ah, there in lies the catch. I wasn't a customer. Short version is I was involved in an accident while inbetween insurance policies, and thus, not covered. I was not at fault, but the witch of a woman driver played up kids in the car, stressed, fraught, blah blah blah, despite the fact that she rear ended me, and raked a side mirror down the length of my truck, damage was clearly visible from the mirror, AND she was passing me illegally while speeding, the cop stuck me with fault.

So, Geico hits me with a claim for $2500. Nothing wrong with this, so I pay it, and 6 years later, they come after me again. My mom produced the proof of payment from before, they drop it. 3 years after that, they did it AGAIN. This is a claim that's nearly 9 years old at this point. So yea, they will never get my business, never get the business of anyone I can convince to drop them or not choose them, and will never get the business of anyone in my family.

Dude this is like free money. Get yourself a consumer protection lawyer and you've got yourself a new tv and game console. You should love Geico.

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AnimeJ wrote:
Elliottx wrote:
Unfortunately the last person in my family that was in the military was my late grandfather. So USAA isn't an option.

I contacted State Farm today and they offered me better rates then AllState but not quite as good as Geico. They're pretty much a solid $100 more for the same coverage that Geico offers.

So the big question is, is State Farm's customer service that much better then Geico's that it's worth an extra $200 a year? It's getting to be an easy question when I write it out like that, but I just have an opinion of State Farm that there insurance is the best.

Maybe a lower Bodily Injury Liability(BI) with State Farm to makeup for expense? Or is having $100,000/$300,000 the safe standard option?

I generally go with the legal minimums.

Don't go with the minimum if you have assets to protect. If you don't own anything worth anything, then minimums are probably okay for you.

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Alien13z wrote:
AnimeJ wrote:
Elliottx wrote:
Unfortunately the last person in my family that was in the military was my late grandfather. So USAA isn't an option.

I contacted State Farm today and they offered me better rates then AllState but not quite as good as Geico. They're pretty much a solid $100 more for the same coverage that Geico offers.

So the big question is, is State Farm's customer service that much better then Geico's that it's worth an extra $200 a year? It's getting to be an easy question when I write it out like that, but I just have an opinion of State Farm that there insurance is the best.

Maybe a lower Bodily Injury Liability(BI) with State Farm to makeup for expense? Or is having $100,000/$300,000 the safe standard option?

I generally go with the legal minimums.

Don't go with the minimum if you have assets to protect. If you don't own anything worth anything, then minimums are probably okay for you.

I generally don't have very expensive vehicles, so minimums work pretty well. As for the other bit, they're actually allowed to put me over the coals like that in the People's Republic of Maryland. Uninsured motorists get thrown under the bus pretty hard.

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Geico has worked fine for me. If you have a credit union, or something like a Farm Bureau, you can join you should also check with them to see if they offer auto insurance (some do, some don't).

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AnimeJ wrote:
Alien13z wrote:
AnimeJ wrote:
Elliottx wrote:
Unfortunately the last person in my family that was in the military was my late grandfather. So USAA isn't an option.

I contacted State Farm today and they offered me better rates then AllState but not quite as good as Geico. They're pretty much a solid $100 more for the same coverage that Geico offers.

So the big question is, is State Farm's customer service that much better then Geico's that it's worth an extra $200 a year? It's getting to be an easy question when I write it out like that, but I just have an opinion of State Farm that there insurance is the best.

Maybe a lower Bodily Injury Liability(BI) with State Farm to makeup for expense? Or is having $100,000/$300,000 the safe standard option?

I generally go with the legal minimums.

Don't go with the minimum if you have assets to protect. If you don't own anything worth anything, then minimums are probably okay for you.

I generally don't have very expensive vehicles, so minimums work pretty well. As for the other bit, they're actually allowed to put me over the coals like that in the People's Republic of Maryland. Uninsured motorists get thrown under the bus pretty hard.

Wait, aren't the legal minimums relevant only to your liability coverage -- to cover your potential damages to other people's health and property? For how much you want to insure your own ride on the comprehensive coverage side -- and whether you want to insure it at all -- is up to your own choosing. So, expensive or not, there is no minimum limit.

Unless your vehicle is financed, in which the title holder (the bank) would demand that the vehicle IS insured. But that is not related to legal minimums.

Or am I not understanding something right in your post?

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Aye, minimums are liability only. Still doesn't change the fact that I drive cheap cars

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USAA rocks. I have them both for car and homeowners insurance. Crazy cheap compared to everyone else I've looked at. Good customer service, but I haven't yet needed to file any claims.

Edit: They also give you a dividend each year, they're not a public company so they treat members are shareholders and return the profits to them, which is pretty nice.

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