Are you embarrassed to be associated with the stereotypical gamer?

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This topic has probably been flogged here before, but there are some recent things that have really bothered me. Over at Kotaku they have a story where the character Faith from Mirror's edge has been modified by someone to be 'more in line with what Asians consider attractive.' Besides the fact that he made her eyes larger and gave her chest a few cup sizes he didn't really change that much. However, I'm wondering to myself why it matters what she looks like because a) the most you ever see her is when you are not actually playing the game (advertisements and what not) and b) so what if she doesn't fit the stereotypical beauty of a particular culture? Why can't the game designers just make a character without having to worry about 'well she doesn't have the widest appeal in all markets' and people just accept it? You don't go out in public and demand that everyone conform to a particular standard of beauty (well some of you might). That is news only in the gaming community but I'm embarrassed from other things as well.

Over Thanksgiving break I was sitting around with my family and girlfriend (none of whom game) and those Resistance 2 commercials and I'm just wondering who they are exactly marketing those games to as the other people in the room jab at me because I'm suddenly the person that has to validate my hobby in spite of that stupid commercial. That might be more to blame with the advertising company just like the PS3 baby commercial.

The last thing that really bothers me at the moment is the consistency of bigots in online play from Xbox Live (the biggest offender coming to mind is Halo 3 of course) and Battle.net. There are probably many other rocks that I haven't looked at yet, but the fact that to an extent I share a hobby/lifestyle at all with some of these people embarrasses me and I'm tired of the image that a lot of people have in there head when I first tell them that I play video games.

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I'm proud to be a gamer myself and if people want to stereotype me for it, then that's their option since we live in a free world where you can do that. I have numerous nerdy and gaming shirts I wear so I'm certainly not trying to hide the fact that I'm a gamer. I think things are getting better and gaming is becoming more mainstream as it is now outselling other media. Many studies have been done that show gamers have better problem solving skills than non-gamers so if anything we have an advantage over our un-enlightened brethren.

As far as the ass hats in games like Halo 3, I either mute them or just use private chat with my friends so they can't ruin my gaming experience.

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If you want to get really sad for the gaming community, go do a search on Steam for the number of accounts with "White Power" in the name. I did that the other day out of curiosity after playing with a few choice morons and was amazed.

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I'm not a fan of most stereotypes I could be associated with. Just more reason to rise above, if you ask me.

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I think it's telling that gamers on many gaming forums are actually willing to acknowledge that women could be portrayed better in games. I like to take it as a sign of maturity in a culture that pretend that beauty isn't everything yet is tied to television shows like extreme makeover, America's Next Top Model, The Biggest Loser, (though there is some merit to the health aspect of that show), etc. Plus it isn't solely video games that face accusations of demanding conformity to standards of beauty, as seen here.

Nevertheless I feel like I'm hijacking the thread so to be totally on topic, I can relate to that feeling of embarrassment. Every time videogames pop up in the news everybody turns to me with a look on their faces that says "we associate you with this," and I feel unfairly obligated to get defensive.

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I am, actually ashamed to be associated with the stereotype.

I am an urban professional, married, have two kids, and I actually do silly crap like exercise. I used to date, a lot, before I met my wife.

The stereotype is an overweight (ok, got me there) social misfit of a manchild who would rather live in their parent's basement and fantasize about women while they play Gears of War instead of living their own life. While I admit videogames are a huge escape for me I still welcome the reality that is my life, because it's a pretty good one overall.

I do know people who fit that stereotype to a "T", but none of them work in my office. Pretty much all of the gamers are just like me. We do have our social misfits, being a largely IT office, but oddly most of our socially maladjusted residents are non-gamers.

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I'm ashamed of the stereotype, but I'm not ashamed to be a gamer.

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I refuse to be stereotyped as one of those narrow-minded gamers. I liked both the big breasted, round eyed version of faith and the original one with the B-cups.

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One of my co-workers found out I game and her response was, "that is so funny!" Not as in, "I will mock you, you ridiculous man-child," but that it was unexpected. This was a middle-aged lady so I'm guessing she's not the most up to date on gaming but I admit I was a tiny bit offended. It's my hobby. What's so goddamn funny about it?

More to the point, I like the changes they made. I don't think the giant boobies are really appropriate for a character who spends her life running and jumping but hey, I never turn down giant boobies. More than that, I really like what they did with her face, particularly getting rid of her KISS-style eye marking thingie.

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When I dated, I didn't mention I played video games. Now that I'm married, I don't mention it to my wife.

I don't generally play the sorts of games the stereotypical gamers are known for. The ones on my list of frequent plays are Combat Mission, Civ, and Total War. TW is probably the most "gamer" of them. The other two are almost academic in comparison.

I would probably never wear a gaming tee shirt or purchase a gaming chair.

I guess that makes me a closet gamer.

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Yes I am embarrassed. I don't bring it up unless someone else brings it up first.

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Hmm... I don't fit the stereotype of the typical gamer. Or maybe I do and the only games I can play are in pink boxes.

"I'll show the boys what the girls can do!"

*gag*

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They can gag?

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Mystic Violet wrote:
Hmm... I don't fit the stereotype of the typical gamer. Or maybe I do and the only games I can play are in pink boxes.

"I'll show the boys what the girls can do!"

*gag*

Silly rabbit, everyone *knows* girls don't play videogames!

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Yes, usually.

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That's not true. Girls play games like Cooking Mama. At least all the girls I've seen.

I'm proud to be a gamer and anyone that knows me knows I'm a gamer. Fortunately, no one knows about the people that play games online. They have no interaction with people in WoW, or Steam, Battle.net, etc. They don't see the stereotype of racists, anarchists, hypocrites, know-it-alls, or just the worst of people. They know of the stereotype of the fat loser in the basement with poor social skills. That's not enough to make me feel ashamed at all.
Now if they spent a few minutes in WoW or any online game with chat, I would feel ashamed.

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I'm fine with being one, but I'm embarassed when other gamers make it too well known by talking about it all the time or making an effort for everyone around to know. Like making all talks in college classes about games, every project related to it, or constantly going on and on about how they want to work for Square.

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Paleocon wrote:
When I dated, I didn't mention I played video games. Now that I'm married, I don't mention it to my wife.

One of the first things I bring up when people want to know me socially. If you can't handle that I read games like I read poetry, then we're not going to be much more than casual acquaintances.

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It used to bother me, but now I'm old and grey, and I don't care what people think anymore.

Hobbies are usually very personal things, and I don't expect other people to get gaming anymore than I understand their hobbies( numismatists and philatelists are a mystery to me ).

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It bothers me, and I wonder if the discomfort is more pronounced for people in my generation (30 something) than for you whipper snappers. For example I have owned various gameboys in the past, and don't rule out owning a DS or PSP in the future, but I would never play one in public. My sense is that you younger folk don't have that particular hangup and are more willing to "out" yourselves as gamers.

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Sometimes.

I hate myself for it as well.

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Botswana wrote:
I am, actually ashamed to be associated with the stereotype.

I am an urban professional, married, have two kids, and I actually do silly crap like exercise. I used to date, a lot, before I met my wife.

The stereotype is an overweight (ok, got me there) social misfit of a manchild who would rather live in their parent's basement and fantasize about women while they play Gears of War instead of living their own life. While I admit videogames are a huge escape for me I still welcome the reality that is my life, because it's a pretty good one overall.

I do know people who fit that stereotype to a "T", but none of them work in my office. Pretty much all of the gamers are just like me. We do have our social misfits, being a largely IT office, but oddly most of our socially maladjusted residents are non-gamers.

What you said minus the two kids (although we do have a bun in the oven!).

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inspiringsn wrote:
and I'm just wondering who they are exactly marketing those games to as the other people in the room jab at me because I'm suddenly the person that has to validate my hobby in spite of that stupid commercial.

The stereotype starts with the games. "Show me what you like and I'll know who you are".

People look at the mass-consumption junk being churned out, and they believe that's what most gamers play, therefore most gamers are idiots.

Sadly, it is also true.

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Mystic Violet wrote:
Hmm... I don't fit the stereotype of the typical gamer.

That's a display stand, not a gamer...

Ah, the joys of selective quoting!

Anyway: At first i thought this thread said, "Are you embarrassed to be associated with the stereotypical goodjer".... which prompted me to think about Oogaba and bacon and thus resulted in a resounding, "YES!".

Upon reading the title once inside the thread i still have to ask.... what is the stereotypical gamer? Is it defined by the marketing companies? Is it defined by non-gamers? Is it defined by hardcore gamers or casual players?

Unlike the D&D stereotype of nerds in a basement i don't think gaming has any one stereotype due to its much broader appeal. I have to say that i don't care who i'm associated with because i'm a gamer.... i'm just a gamer.

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If you can't handle that I read games like I read poetry, then we're not going to be much more than casual acquaintances.

Wait, you never told me you were a gay nerd... who reads games rather than plays them. You're a charlatan! :/

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It honestly doesn't bother me in the least.
It's just a stupid little stereotype. Life is filled with them.
Gamers are just another target for people to attack. Along with every gender, race, religion, hobby, etc.
It's always nice to prove people wrong when their image of a gamer is some fat, aging man still living in his parent's basement, fantasizing about ladies in the games.

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Badferret wrote:
For example I have owned various gameboys in the past, and don't rule out owning a DS or PSP in the future, but I would never play one in public. .

I was playing Advance Wars on my DS while I was waiting to vote, and no one batted an eye.

Actually, that's not quite accurate, the guy behind me kept trying to look over my shoulder to see what I was doing.

It kept me me entertained for 2+ hours, and if people don't approve, screw 'em.

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Badferret wrote:
It kept me me entertained for 2+ hours, and if people don't approve, screw 'em.

As long as you had headphones, yeah.

I've never seen anyone talk about the gamer stereotype outside of the gaming "community". I think the nastiest thing non-gamers would say about games is that they're for kids. Around this part of the world anyway. I can live with that.

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The sad fact is gaming is probably one of the least geeky things I do. If they get that far they're already over the shock.

But yes, it does annoy me when I have to point out to someone for the bunchteenth time that over a thousand games other than GTA were shipped last year, and 90% of them weren't M rated just because they've taken a couple sips of Dr. Dobson's Kool-aid and they decide to collar me on it. As much as pubtards annoy me, in fact.

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Mystic Violet wrote:
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Interesting that there's only one game.

As for stereotypes, I think I'm the stereotypical "line the quarters on the marquis, carpet-walled arcade going" stereotype. Aside from the fact I'm fat and play classic videogames.

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