Once I've spent more than an hour with it, for sure. I know I'll be buying it, so I'm thinking I'll probably avoid playing more until it comes out for reals.

Rectum? We barely knew him.

Oh, by the way, what's Jeff Green's Spore ID? I wanna friend him up.

Rock Band pack with all the instruments ... $170
Rock Band DLC ... $100
Rock Band 2 ... $60
Forcing your 4 your old to hold the microphone for you because you won't fork out $8 on a microphone stand ... Priceless!

Another excellent show guys! It's a highlight of the week.

I definitely am enjoying the space phase the most in Spore. I find hours just disappear and it has me hooked with that 'just one more action before I stop' addictiveness.

Also, I may need to check out Good Old Games because I tried reinstalling Fallout Tactics on vista. The game runs, but I can't find a patch that will. If they have some sort of voodoo that will run the updated games on vista then I am interested.

I will never, ever get old.

That pic is awesome.

...the "Jeff in the Chopter" pic I mean...not the horrifying medical realities of WiredAsylum.

Oh, Good podcast too

You have risen my ire by invoking the name of the hated "Phil Collins"!

Phil Collins invisible touched me.

Ugh. Phil Collins abusing Elysium, Rob and Julian discussing colon-whatchamacallits, and Jeff Green talking about implants. Thanks for the bad imagery, guys. I'm sending my psych bill to you this week.

Edit: On the bright side, you didn't subject me to listening to my own voice. Well, at least until the email show.

I was brushing my teeth when the Viva Pinata section appeared, I nearly swallowed the head of my electric toothbrush.

Coldstream holding a human heart is awesome, but WiredAsylum listening to Certis' dulcet tones while getting a colonoscopy is still the winner, but not for any good reasons.

It's a two week double-punch to the gut of all the other gaming podcasts out there. You folks are showing no mercy.

Can you guys list all the books you were talking about? i'm too lazy to go back and listen to that section again.

Great show guys!
With regard to Elysium's answer to my question i think that his statement about gamers not being complicit with piracy is incorrect and should be altered. It should be that 'pirates should not be complicit with piracy'... which kinda nullifies the point.

When you talk about going to places where you're sent death threats (etc) for saying that piracy is bad you're talking about places and people who are obviously pirating on some level... When you try (and i'm thankful for it ) to differentiate the GWJ masses from those other places, you're making a comparison between people of who the majority do not pirate and people of who the majority do pirate.

Lets take a comparison of what you're saying here. Cannabis is illegal. Imagine if the police went around saying that people are complicit with the continued use of the drug. Now, it's true. I know a few people who do partake in it from time to time. I don't agree with it but i don't hang around them when they do it. Now, my point is (and was in the other thread) telling me that i'm complicit in the continued use of cannabis is incorrect and offensive. Telling those who are actively using the drug will result in them being aggressive towards you. However, telling this to them will not result in reduceduse nor will it have a positive effect on the situation. By your logic, all 'people' would be complicit in all crimes committed by 'people'.

In effect, you're preaching to the converted and your message is ignored by those people you intend to affect because if they admitted or care that piracy was bad then they wouldn't do it in the first place... and it's only when the consequences become tangible enough to each person that they will stop pirating. Unfortunately, due to the nature of most piracy the majority will never feel those consequences and thus it propagates in society. By contrast, people can and will be arrested for drug use, treated and educated and sometimes become reformed. This will never happen with your everyday pirate.

Fair enough, we're obviously on different sides of that trench The way i see reality is more along Brad Wardell's lines; piracy is unstoppable and thus clamping down 'unreasonably' on paying consumers is not the answer. That all depends on what you think is unreasonable and while i'm happy with CD/DVD copy protection and cd-keys for online play, i'm not happy with limited installs and authentication for single player games.

My problem with this is that i do accept that both are reality and that one is more directly a result of the other. However, I disagree that if it's a problem for me then i should stop piracy. It's a problem for me so i want to stop DRM that restricts me - piracy doesn't restrict me and there is no way for me to stop it... no matter how vocal i am. Maybe you think differently but being 'vocal' about not liking piracy won't stop pirates. Nor can i go to their websites and start a crusade against them - posting threads debating piracy etc - because i'll just be banned as much as a pro-piracy user would be banned here for trying to promote that...