Looking for advice on breaking up (yes one of thoooose posts) :D
Hi everyone.
I'm not a big poster here, but I do read a lot. Not the way I would have liked my first new thread to be, but sometimes even I need help. Also no need to be serious, laughs are good ![]()
I could go for paragraphs on details, but I'll try to keep it short.
I need to break up with my girlfriend. We've been together a long time, and we now live together. Mentioning my doubts about our relationship stops her from functioning. She can't sleep or eat or work until she knows it will be okay. I've done a lot of writing to help me organize my thoughts, and I know I have to break up.
Now, I just don't have the courage to do it. I'm a nice guy, and of course I don't want to hurt her, but this is going to hurt.
So the question is not what to do, or how to do it. My question that I need help with, is how can I get the courage to do it? Anything I can do to help me will my way through this?
Any advice? Thanks!
bnpederson wrote:
Whatever else you do, don't stick it in the crazy.

Sounds like your girlfriend has become emotionally dependant on you to the point of becoming non-functional when there is a threat to your relationship. That's a lot of pressure on your shoulders.
Try and imagine the freedom you'll feel when you finally break up with her and have your own life back.
Breaking up isn't easy, but there really is no other way to get on with your life until you deal with it head-on. Pull the band-aid off quickly, and don't let yourself get manipulated into clingy, "temporary breaks" or "trial periods". It's just wasting every one's time if you are sure you want to be single again.
You WILL feel uncomfortable broaching the subject and plowing through. Just remember, you WILL get to the other side and you WILL have your freedom when it's done. You don't have to be a jerk about it and you don't have to be an apologist. Just be honest and as tender as you can without giving her ANY false hope of reconciliation. Remember, being honest is not a crime.
Putting it off is just delaying the inevitable. Stop wasting your time and start living your life the way you want.
Good luck!
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Don't let it come out of the blue. Let her know about some of the issues and don't tell her it is going to be okay. Even if you think it should be obvious, I can almost guarantee she will think this is out of the blue. Also, as you continue to let her know things aren't going well, you'll gather courage. Be brutally honest in small steps.
Edit: Also, after the one or two "I don't understand; can we talk?" conversations, give her lots of space, even if she doesn't want it. Let her know you don't want to talk for a month, at least. Then, don't call her. Leave her alone to mend.
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You could take the absent father approach, just get your stuff and move out without a word to make her the wiser. Seems to work for them.
(You said no need to be serious, I in no way really advocate this as she may very well find you and stomp on your adams apple)
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Hmmm. Breaking up sucks.... Is there anyone on her side you can 'forewarn' so as to make sure there's a ready support group around her when it happens? I know it's not an ideal situation but maybe hint at the break like Hunnie says and let them chat with your girlfriend, letting the signs sink in from more than one direction.... maybe then it won't be so out of the blue, "we're breaking up'.
Good luck.
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Side note:
What's more painful?
A: Dealing with an uncomfortable conversation that will lead to a potentially awkward transition phase (separating your stuff, moving out, etc.)?
OR
B: Not dealing with it and continuing to live in situation that makes you unhappy for god knows how long...
and finally...
Dealing with an uncomfortable conversation that will lead to a potentially awkward transition phase (separating your stuff, moving out, etc.)?
.....
You're going to have "the talk" either way. Do you want to start the ball rolling now, or continue to live unsatisfied and have the exact same "talk" months/years down the road? Do you think it will be any easier later if you push it off now? Not likely, imo.
First ask her, "If I was going to walk out on you tomorrow, would you feel suicidal or, alternately, homicidal?" Then get the painkillers out of the medicine cabinet or take the butcher knife out of the kitchen, depending on which answer she gives.
Say, "everyone with a boyfriend, take one step forward...... not so fast, hon."
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I don't know your relationship or the people involved, but a strategy I wish I had been wise enough to use in the past would be to involve her in the decision. No, she can't be involved to the point of keeping a dead relationship going, but as much as possible try to have the breakup be something you both do, try to avoid making it something that happens to her. Easier said than done in many situations, but I look back to the way an ex of mine broke off a 5 year relationship that had ended up with two burned out depressed people sharing a house but not a life. I'm grateful for her direct approach.
She just came to me one night and asked directly "Why are we even together anymore?" I tried to answer, but frankly, I had nothing. I mean, I loved her or at least remembered loving her, but I sure as hell wasn't happy and wasn't confident that she still loved me. Somehow being asked to explain why we should keep things going made all the reasons to split up clear to me. I'm embarrassed to say that I've never come close to breaking up with someone with as much class and grace as that.
Anyway, I don't have much in the way of practical tips of how to make it happen, but the more you can involve her in the dissolution, the better it will be in the long run.
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Not to be indelicate, but it sounds like she's got serious crazy potential. Given the myriad of ways a crazy ex can seriously wreck your life via the police, etc, maybe you should be the first one to go the restraining order route.
Having gone through exactly what you're going through right now, I'm not going to sugarcoat it, at least in my experience. You are going to hurt her, there's no denying it so make sure you understand that going in. There might be some things that will lessen the pain, but ending a long relationship will have lasting effects on both you.
Advice? I'm not really sure I can give you any. Tell the truth, be open, and no matter what her response try and be level-headed.
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I had a similar situation a little while back. Was with a girl for 12 years, lived together, realized I wanted out. It took a while, but I eventually built up the strength to tell her I didn't want to be in a relationship anymore, and she needed to move out in two months. It was hard thing to do, and led to three hellish weeks of yelling, crying and so on. But when it was all over, life was 2000% better.
My advice, sit her down, be honest, and lay it all out. It's not going to be easy, but it's better than the alternative of keeping something you're not happy in going due to fear or laziness. Good luck!
Jerk method:
Sleep with her hot friend.
Upside: You don't have to worry about having the talk, she's likely to dump you instead. Plus, you get the joy of the hot friend.
Downside: You'd be a royal douche.
Nice Guy Method:
The band-aid approach. Just take deep breaths, stay away from any alternative substances so you're both dead sober, sit down and explain it's an unhealthy relationship and time to end it.
Upside: It's the right thing to do. You get good, healthy closure, you may even salvage a lasting friendship out of it.
Downside: Holy sh*t is it tough. I mean you gotta be able to stick to your guns and not give in when the crying and the pleading phase hits.
ThatGuy42 Method:*
Get completely tore-up, fall-down drunk together and unload everything in one big ugly fracas.
Upside: DRUNK! Plus, the potential that while under the influence a lot additional truths come out that can really help lend understanding to the situation.
Downside: Hangover and potential that those additional truths can lead to bodily harm.
*Yes, this really happened to me. Years ago before I met my wife I was in some very bad relationships. Including one relationship where we both hated each other and neither of us would end it. Finally we were so fall-down, tore-up drunk that all of the truths of our feelings came flooding out. In the morning we were both hung over and I had a pencil sticking out of my arm, but we had seen the light, broken up and have been friends ever since. Since then I have been a big proponent of honesty regardless of the idea of protecting someone's feelings.
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You don't need to do the jerk method...but at least sleeping with her before you break up will make you feel better
of note...if she is dependent...there is no easy way...so alcohol and her friend are the worst methods in all honesty...
sorry man, and good luck to ya!
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Band-aid approach is the one. Yes it hurts, might even result in screams. The only way it works is to not equivocate. Do it, stick to it and a year from now, everyone is happier, no matter how impossible that seems at the time.
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The only humane solution is to sedate her and put her in a time capsule indefinitely.
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He wants motivators, not breakup method tips. Pay attention!
I have a friend who is chronically in your situation. He gets involved with a girl, they fall in love with him, and he can't work up the cojones to break it off. Months go by and they move in. Then he's miserable for months/years and deludes himself that he isn't miserable. Eventually I get him drunk and convince him that he's unhappy. You're already at that point, so we can skip that step. The way he finally works up the resolve to have the breakup speech is he does something irreversible yet non-confrontational...he secretly signs another lease elsewhere and schedules a moving company to come get his stuff. Then he panics and worries every day after that, but he knows he has to tell her before the movers come, so he finally does.
Now he owns a place, so that new lease option is no longer available, and he's been with the same dead-end girl for almost 3 years now. If you're still renting and absolutely can't work up the courage, you might give this method a try.
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Having had my fair share of chemically imbalanced girlfriends, I feel I can speak with some authority on this.
The number one rule is to maintain rationality. Do not make this about feelings and do not make or accept emotional appeals. Make a list of why it is not working out (e.g.: she demonstrates an inability to respect your boundaries, you are unable to pursue the life you wish while accomodating her, you deserve someone who treats you better). Once that groundwork is set, do not respond to recriminations. If she goes on about how horrible you are, acknowledge that she may feel that way and suggest that a suitable prescription to her unhappiness would be to break up cleanly. Do this as coldly and uncomprimisingly as you can muster.
I also suggest, as others seem to have, that you do this in a public place AND that you move out anything you care about before this confrontation. Also, inform your bank that you wish to close your accounts or transfer them, change your address, and take other actions necessary to protect yourself if you think that is prudent. This includes informing others that you are concerned about her taking retributive action.
On at least one occasion, I have had a girlfriend claim I threatened her physically (one even claimed I used a weapon). Thankfully, I had followed the program and made it impossible for her to corroborate those claims by being absent from the point of breakup.
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I would avoid giving specifics about what exactly you have issues with. It turns into a debate and makes you look overly judgmental. I found I had greater success with something along the lines of "I just don't see this working out long term, I don't know why, but I'm just looking for something different. You're a great woman and you'll make a perfect spouse for someone, but this just isn't perfect for me."
You let her know where you stand without leaving as much room for debate, and you haven't listed the 32 things about her that piss you off.
It sucks, but it will suck tomorrow, and it will suck a month from now if it takes that long to build up the courage.
As far as how to build up the courage, I usually call on a good friend of mine:
Good luck.
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Just in case the breaking up doesn't go according to plan.
I was recently on the recieving end of a break up and all I can say is it will suck but it has to be done sometimes. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and try to make it quick and clean as possible.
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Change the locks.
Seriously, though. Lawyer advice: Take all valuables that might be in dispute (particularly pets!!) to a location that she has no knowledge of or ability to find before you put the bullet in her.
You could wait until you'll need a divorce and maybe even pay for a few kids.....
Think of it like having a tooth ache. Seeing the dentist will hurt a little, but it'll prevent an abscess that could be life threatening later.
Have you thought about laying it on the line in the form of a mild ultimatum. Or counseling? I am a hopeless romantic. But, If you are truly convinced that it has to be done and that no amount of work will salvage the relationship, then waiting will always make it worse. Best thing is do it suddenly, with no backing away, and no discussion.
Based on the findings of the report, my conclusion was that this idea was not a practical deterrent for reasons which at this moment must be all too obvious.
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So yeah, C-A-D kinda sucks but I threw this together for a friend in a similar situation once and now I can get some extra mileage out of it.
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Eww, you made me read CAD. I feel dirty. MINDBLEACH, STAT!
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QFT. E Hunnie, being the awesome sensitive counterpart to Mr Insenstive Grammar Nazi(wordy, for those playing at home!) nails it. So, since she did so well, back to silly.
That's so awesome, and so true. Just need Elysium to confirm what we already know from the sig
Coldstream wrote:
I can hardly read now.
Somehow it turned out that tonight I told her. Sure enough it's the worst day of my life.
Thanks for everyone's advice, I don't know how I was able to tell her. I'll read through the responses later, my eyes are a tad watery.
Just so you know, it went ok. No fighting, no begging, just shock. She's got a friend coming over for comfort.
I can't believe it happened. Thanks again for all the responses, I'm really blown away by how many of you responded. GWJ rocks
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I stayed in a relationship for 5.5 years, when really it was over after 2. I couldn't bring myself to call it off because we had all the same friends, furniture, and pets and we didn't *hate* each other. It just sounded like so much work to do something about it.
Finally, after moving 3000 miles with him to a new state (and narrowly avoiding becoming common-law married!) after 6 months of things being the same as they always were before the move, I came to realize that we didn't have to scream and yell or hit each other to not be right for each other. Just not wanting to be with that person was a good enough reason to end it. What a revelation.
It's funny, it took me 3 years to realize this, but once I did I needed OUT. Right away. Within a week, I secured a temporary living arrangement with a friend, and did a mental tally on what furniture was mine, how to split up the pets, etc. so that I had all my answers before telling him I was leaving. Once it was done, band-aid style, I only went back for my things. I can't imagine trying to live under the same roof for even one day after that.
As for motivation? Well, within a week later my husband and I started seeing each other. Yeah. I made the right decision.
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