PXP, nifty PC gaming tool, anyone used it yet?

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I just saw this article "The end of Alt-Tab" from gameradar. And this PLAYXPERT tool really looks to have great potential.

Edit: BAHHHH! The client d/l link is gone, they are getting ready to put up a new build, darn it! I wanted to try it tonight!

GameRadar wrote:
It’s as if it weren’t bad enough being abandoned in World of Warcraft by a guild member tending to pedestrian concerns like using the bathroom or a baby. Now, thanks to a new game overlay called PlayXpert, you’ll be competing for attention with Facebook, AOL Instant Messenger, iTunes, and potentially any other PC application, all accessible without ever leaving the game.

But it doesn’t stop with World of Warcraft. PXP’s overlay works at the kernel level, meaning that it can appear in practically any game, allowing users access to nearly any program they might want or need without exiting the game or setting off any hack detections.

A variety of widgets have already been created for the program (set to release over the summer), including a chat client that can interface with MSN, AIM, ICQ, Yahoo and Xfire (among others); a music widget that gives access to iTunes and Winamp; and a web browsing widget. But PXP will also allow user-made widgets, bringing your dream of simultaneously playing Portal and balancing your checkbook (or writing Weighted Companion Cube fan fiction) tantalizingly within reach.

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WOWHEAD
PARTNER: Wowhead
STATUS: Widget is available with PlayXpert download as a “default”
DESCRIPTION: The Wowhead widget provides access to the service without having to leave World of Warcraft. Players can research quests, items, characters, and use the Wowhead talent calculator all within the game.

VIVOX
PARTNER: Vivox
STATUS: Widget is available with PlayXpert download as a “default”
DESCRIPTION: The Vivox widget brings free voice chat to any game. It supports voice communication in channels and rooms, allows for custom rooms to be created for clans/guilds, and allows players to call each other whether or not they’re in the same game.

GOOGLE GADGET
PARTNER: Google
STATUS: Widget is available in the PlayXpert Widget Gallery
DESCRIPTION: The Google Gadget widget allows any Google Gadget to be automatically transformed into a widget that works in-game through PlayXpert. This widget makes over 43,000 Google Gadgets available for in-game use.

So anyone have tried it yet? (I am sure there is some sort of beta going on, spill the beans please! ) I am surprised that a topic about this tool haven't come up already (maybe it did, and I just missed it?)

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Interesting. I don't mind alt-tab, but some games have big problems with it. BF2142 will 90% of the time not recover from alt-tab for me. I have to kill the process manually because it will not restore. TF2 is horrendously slow to recover, though it eventually does so reliably.

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Registered for this 'steam on crack'.

I hope it works on games you run in window mode.

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I registered. Once the download link is up I'll be trying it out.

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Quintin_Stone wrote:
Interesting. I don't mind alt-tab, but some games have big problems with it. BF2142 will 90% of the time not recover from alt-tab for me. I have to kill the process manually because it will not restore. TF2 is horrendously slow to recover, though it eventually does so reliably.

Actually, TF2 has a tendency to turn people invisible after an alt-tab. supposedly they become visible again when they respawn, but being killed by a rocket out of the ether is no fun at all.

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The download link is now up.

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Thirteenth wrote:
The download link is now up.

Why do things always happen when I am working!?

Here's the link to d/l

Quote:
Hey dudes, were ready and I know you are. We have been very excited to get this open beta into your hands and after a lot of hard work we feel that we are finally ready to do it. There are a couple known issues, but we believe that you guys would rather just start using the damned thing. We don't have an exact timeline for when these will be fixed...but it's not like we've got anything else to do other than making this thing as good as possible.

-Web Browser - Flash Controls are inconsistent in-game:
Although flash videos work well in-game, the controls of some video viewers can at times render improperly.

-Web Browser - Flash video repaint issue while scrolling up or down:
While scrolling the browser and playing a flash video, there are repainting routines which can become out of synch.

-Playxpert Lockup- -
If Playxpert appears to lockup in redirection mode, it can be a couple different things, but all of them are due to Playxpert crashing. Ctrl+Alt+Delete (try a couple times if the first one does not work) will get you out of this, but you will need to restart Playxpert.

-Friends Widget - Conversation Window Repaint :
Screenshot
The window that you have a conversation in has some repainting issues. These present themselves when switching tabs and when the conversation starts to scroll down because of the text. This bug does not happen every time and can be fixed by clicking and moving the dialog.

-Dock - Black Invalidation Region:
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If you drag a widget or window over the dock, release the widget, then move the widget off the dock again, the dock will have a black box somewhere on it. This is an annoying albeit minor issue; a simple mouse-over will take care of it - you don't even need to be in redirection mode.

-Semi rare issue when entering redirection mode:
If you enter redirection mode while the mouse is moving (dragging over something and clicking mid-drag) on rare occasions it can force you out of game, PXP will be functional, but when you go back in-game you will be in a strange 'Half re-direction' mode where all of the commands go through to the game AND Playxpert. Our devs like to call this the #(*&@ a $#*@ bug.

-Diagnostics Widget - Process Tree In-game:
Screenshot
The Process Tree tab of the Diagnostics widget does not work in-game, only the table will appear and all the text is gone. There is no workaround at the moment other than looking at it out of game.

-Tunes Widget - Large Winamp Playlist
If you attempt to load a large winamp playlist, it will take a while to load. If the Winamp client is open, it will be cycling through all the songs like crazy, but don't worry, everything will be ok.

Hopefully you guys will somehow be able to look past these issues and download the client . We're really excited for this and we hope you are as well. Keep in mind that the reason we're doing this is to get feedback and fix any outstanding issues we have, so don't be shy in giving us feedback and reporting bugs(in our bug system). When something small goes wrong on the kernel level of the computer, which we interact with, the result is a BSOD. We've made fixing those our top priority and we have NO KNOWN BSOD's as of this point. If you guys find one, let us know ASAP. If you go to C:\WINDOWS\Minidump and include the minidump from the crash in the ticket, it will help us greatly. By the way, if your username has some special characters or spaces in it, even though the website may have allowed for it, there will be an issue with the Vivox Voice widget, so get on that.

Our bug tracking system is located here.
Our Knowledgebase (FAQ) is located here
Inside your Playxpert folder there is a pxp.log file, this file contains important info that will help us fix your problem quicker. So include that file in bugs concerning a PXP crash.

There is a 'Feature Enhancement' Priority in the bug tracking system, use this! If you think we can make something better, submit it. We're not a big enough company that stuff gets lost in the ether - we read ALL of it. If you want your idea to be passed around our table, that's the way you need to do it.

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*In response to being rewarded with a in-game shack for NOT nuking FO3 city Megaton*
Yeah, but if you set off the bomb in Megaton you are rewarded with a parking lot!

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That's an awesome idea. A lot of games these days crash when you try to alt tab back in. I will definitely be giving this a shot.

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HaciendaSquish wrote:
Actually, TF2 has a tendency to turn people invisible after an alt-tab. supposedly they become visible again when they respawn, but being killed by a rocket out of the ether is no fun at all.

Ah yeah, good point. I'd forgotten about that little bug.

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New version is up!

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I know the plural of anecdote isn't data, but here's my take on it.

I really wanted to like this, but it's not going to work for me until either it gets refined and patched, or I get a better machine. The web browser was very choppy and delayed when scrolling, and from the way it renders pages I'm guessing it's a reskinned Internet Explorer, which makes me cringe. Also couldn't see any support for bookmarks. A web browser without bookmarks? No thanks.

Tried the iTunes music player component as well. The music player window appeared, then froze up, then crashed the whole PXP app. When I quit out of WoW to the desktop there was an instance of iTunes loaded that wasn't there before. So it had loaded iTunes in the background as well. If the app is going to be fully loaded in the background as it is, I might as well just carry on as I am: queuing up a playlst and alt+tab.

I've uninstalled it.

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It is a little rough right now and uses up the same memory as STEAM, but not as fluid. Keeping it installed to help test here and there. This still has promise, hopefully they can get all the bugs worked out...

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ARISE!

I've been using this for the past... well, awhile now, and it is, indeed, awesome. And it has 3 very important things most other systems don't as of now: Win7 support in both 32 and 64-bit mode, 64-bit in Vista, and Dx10 support. Also: Open API, and anyone who knows C# can make a widget for it. (I'm hacking on a rcon widget in my spare time, for example).

It's had the vast majority of the bugs kicked out, and it's incredibly solid. It's well worth giving another spin. Seriously, go, now.

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I'm sorry, this runs at the KERNEL level? Wow, they're asking you to trust them an awful lot. Just so anyone knows, if you run something at the kernel level, you're essentially giving it carte blanche access to your PC. If that program (or any individual third party developed widget for it) ever gets compromised, it will have the access needed to hose your PC. To each their own of course but yeah, this isn't going near my machine.

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Parallax Abstraction wrote:
I'm sorry, this runs at the KERNEL level? Wow, they're asking you to trust them an awful lot. Just so anyone knows, if you run something at the kernel level, you're essentially giving it carte blanche access to your PC. If that program (or any individual third party developed widget for it) ever gets compromised, it will have the access needed to hose your PC. To each their own of course but yeah, this isn't going near my machine.

Don't lots of things run at a kernel level? Videocard drivers etc??

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I think Parallax has the right idea there. Ring-0 access plus C# plugins written by inexperienced programmers.... no thank you.

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Videocard drivers etc??

That keeps changing. In NT 3.5, video drivers ran in user space, but that was too slow for good graphic speed back then. They pulled them into kernel space in Windows 2000, which is what allowed bitmap games to run at a decent speed. That's why you could game well on Win2K, but couldn't on 3.51. In Windows 7, they're back into user space again. I assume this is for one of three reasons:

1. CPUs may be faster at context-switching than they were ten years ago;
2. With multicore systems, one core can just stay in the graphics code while the others run the game;
3. Everyone has gone to 3D graphics, instead of 2D bitmaps. 3D is drawn in large swaths of geometry instead of a pixel at a time, so perhaps the context-switch overhead is no longer significant.

Of course, all of those could be partially true, it's not either-or. Or it could be something else entirely. These are suppositions sans evidence.

But note that in all cases, you're dealing with professional programmers who are running their drivers through Microsoft's WHQL program. This utility has total control over anything on the system, and presumably, any plugin could either exploit it or itself be exploited. And there's no quality program I'm aware of to make sure the plugins are well-written.

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Its not paranoia if everyone is actually out to get you.

True fact.

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It's not paranoia, Guru, it's knowing that C# programmers may not be the sharpest tools in the shed.

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TheGameguru wrote:
Don't lots of things run at a kernel level? Videocard drivers etc??

This isn't a Microsoft certified, digitally signed video driver from a large, public company like AMD/ATI, NVIDIA or Intel, it's a gaming utility written by people I've never heard of that allows third party plug-ins from people I've never heard of and which from what I can tell, has little to no screening process or security policy. Everyone has their own levels of trust of course but I'm just saying that there are a myriad of reasons for me not to hand over the master keys of my system to them.

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Malor wrote:
It's not paranoia, Guru, it's knowing that C# programmers may not be the sharpest tools in the shed.

lol I'm sure your right.. I'm smart enough to keep my finances and important stuff on a laptop that I never use for anything else.. my gaming machine is just for gaming so other than keyloggers etc.. (which no doubt this would be at risk at) I'm fairly nonchalant about what I install on it.

But yeah.. I got my WoW account hacked last month with a bogus addon that sneaked into one of the more well known addon websites.

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While I love the sound of the functionality of this little tool, I'm siding with Parallax and Malor on this one. I like my pc, and I don't like giving full system access to someone (or multiple someones) I don't know.

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