A salute to an American hero - Sylvester Stallone
So the Rambo movies are out on Blu-Ray. That fact combined with Netflix creates the recipe for a "Rambo Movie Weekend." Watching Rambo: First Blood Part 2 it occurred to me that Stallone is at his best when he's fighting cold war stereotypes. Sure, the original might have had the true political statement but it was when John Rambo took the fight back to 'Nam and (in the second half of the movie) to the Russian's doorstep, that John Rambo came into his own as the action hero we all know and love. This combined with Rambo 3, and the fact that Ivan Drago is arguably the best Rockey opponent of the bunch, leads me to my previously mentioned thesis.
So I've decided to make the thread where we can all celebrate those hero's and media that have taken on the big bad Ruskies, so we don't have to.
I'll kick it off. In addition to Rambo, BattleZone allowed us to take on the dirty commies in outer space, so mad props for that.
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Not just commies, Rambo can fight anyone whose brown.
I love the Rocky series, I have all of them on DVD. I'm going to watch one right now!
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Yeah, Rocky is awesome, and Rambo is pretty cool too. They totally wasted a chance at a billion dollar movie in the 80's when Schwarzenegger wouldn't make a movie with Stallone. That would have been awesome.
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A billion dollar movie, and huge residuals on speech therapy.
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They would have had to subtitle it, and I would have watched it over and over until the tape got chewed up in the VCR.
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I can't imagine what that movie would have been, or the body count. I think upwards of a billion dead *insert enemy of the time*
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I convinced my totally awesome grandfather to take me to that movie in the theater. It scared the $#!7 out of me.
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I too, would've ruined tapes and VCR's with such a movie.
I can just imagine a Rambo/Commando movie! It would be like a buddy special forces movie, totally hilarious!
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A Schwarzenegger/Stallone movie would have been the final deathblow to heterosexuality.
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The first First Blood was a better movie because Rambo was at least JOHN Rambo. It was a better story and better movie than anything related after it. For obvious reasons. Of course unless you like the action in the following sequels because it was dramatic, intense, more fictional, and ultimately easier to swallow.
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I believe it's called Planet Hollywood.
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Or perhaps Bollywood...
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I'd say the only Stallone movie I find re-watchable is Copland.
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
Wasn't Rambo III that had him fighting along side of the 'Afghan Freedom Fighters' against the Russians?
I blame the rise of Taliban and Osama Bin Laden on John Rambo!
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He did teach them how to fire an RPG out of a busted cockpit window and take down one of our choppers with it.
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
This thread's original purpose reminds me of what a pinko fellow traveller that Superman is, with his heavy-handed forced nuclear disarmament. There's a graphic novel where he goes all the way red, too.
So much for truth, justice, and the American way.
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Just remember Snake Plisken the ultimate American Hero.
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I'd like to throw a shout out to some more modern fighters of the Red Plague. Gabe, Tycho and a killer whale now officially qualify as defenders of the American dream. The seven part story arch starts here.
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It's funny-- I was going to start a thread about Stallone, but decided to run a forum search first. So I'll hijack this one, since nobody's using it right now.
I think Stallone is one of Hollywoods great underrated actors. He gets no breaks, but his performance in every Rocky movie is really good-- especially the last one. (And it bears remembering that he wrote all of them, and directed too)
And anyone who labels the Rambo series as being unthinking violence clearly hasn't seen the first one. It was so different from what I expected, yet still very good.
Watching Rambo II and III reminded me of a day back when it was okay for Hollywood to be anti-red and pro USA. They may not be high art, but they're fun. And the character of Rambo remains pretty complicated in spite of the "We need a bigger explosion here" direction. The fourth Rambo movie was very good, if brutal to watch.
My favorite Stallone performance is probably Oscar. Little known comedy-- a farce, of all things-- where Stallone plays a prohibition era mobster who finds his best efforts to go straight thwarted by circumstance. It's hilarious-- and not in a mocking, look-at-Stallone-that-big-idiot kind of way. It's a genuinely funny movie, in my opinion (critics disagreed). (Look for Harry Shearer as one of two Italian tailors who get mistaken for mafia button-men.)
And, getting back to some good old fashioned red-baiting, I have only one thing to say:
WOLVERINES!
(Addendum: If you don't get that reference, you don't deserve to.
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