WoW: Quitters never win ... except in WoW
So yesterday I was running some test video captures with glc and WINE, and this happened. Unbelievable - an entire two-group pre-made of horde basically just afk'ing in order to lose as fast as possible. There were only four or five Horde actually fighting, I can only assume because they were not part of this "loser's club."
For me, this is broken. Seriously broken. All day long yesterday I had to deal with people giving up almost immediately. If we didn't get three spots in AB right away, they simply stopped fighting, and started saying in chat to give up and let the other team five-cap. EoTS was the same - "just give up and let them win." PvP cannot survive when many of the players have attitudes like this.
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Where are these Horde when I need them?Seriously though,i agree they shouldnt be pvping with attitudes like this. As Alliance I often see a similiar one with "Oh we can not beat the Horde" and then they start leaving the battleground.Good riddance.
It's always been like that... People are all about honor/min ratio and whichever way gives more honor is what people will go with. They're not there for the competition they're there for the loot.
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Once folks are geared up with the S2 stuff, you'll see a lot less of that.
Being able to turn in the 4 badges for 314 honor points is what is causing this problem.
Lets see, do nothing and loose 4 battle grounds in 25 minutes for 400 honor, or work at maybe winning one BG in 20 to 30 minutes for 100 to 400 honor.
Blizzard did a good job implementing the new AFK tool however they still need to improve that. The number of botters I've seen has easily tripled since they added the afk debuff. The worst I saw was a some prot pally running around in EOTS randomly consecrating. He ran off the edge more than anything but even a mounted hordie running through his stupid consecrate was enough to remove the debuff from him again.
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Yep. Unfortunately, the fault rests with Blizzard. They have made PvP simply a means to an end - the PvP Gear. Players will naturally find the easiest path to the reward they want. This type of player response is a natural product of Blizzard's current Battleground system.
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It's something that's been around forever in the BG system. Personally I think if blizzard was to do what mythic is doing, namely have loot drop off of players -which is going to create a whole new set of headaches- it would fix the "lets lose to restart" mentality.
But I also think that the people who cry in BGs about giving up to maximize their honor/hour ratios are a minority-albeit a very very vocal minority. However, if you have 2-3 ppl standing around in a BG not doing anything that's enough to give the other team enough of an advantage to win.
Fear is the mind killer
When I played BGs two years ago with my Alliance Lock, this was always a problem. A horde guild would get half their guild to play alliance that would camp whild the guild would enter the BG en-masse and wipe out the few legitimate alliance players. Needless to say it does suck. I haven't played PvP on WoW since I figured out what was going on.