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Well, I've finally done it. I've joined the ranks of the lunatic fringe. I went and got my fingerprints taken and paid my hard earned cash to get put on an ATF "scrutinize with great prejudice" list for the sake of a hobby. I am now a Federal stamp collector.

Tax stamp that is. As in Class 3 Federal Tax Stamp for National Firearms Act regulated weapons. In my case, the item I'm getting is:

The Advanced Armament Corporation Pilot.

Combined with my Ruger Mk 2 and its newly threaded barrell and subsonic 22lr ammo, I now have a pistol that can put rounds downrange while being quieter than flea farts.

Ah... life is wonderful.

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Mang... If NSA is reading this. I wonder if they first read all your doom prophecies about inevitable Obama assassination, then your purchase of this suppressor (if that's what it is), and do their usual 2+2=5 math....

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Can you post your entire setup? I'd like to create another smaller "In case of Zombies" box with your .22 setup just like in the book.

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Very nice!

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Edwin wrote:
Can you post your entire setup? I'd like to create another smaller "In case of Zombies" box with your .22 setup just like in the book.

Currently, it is looking like this:

-- Ruger Mk 2 4.5" bull barrell. I settled on this because the Ruger 22lr semiautos are, by far, the most accurate and reliable 22 pistols ever made. The Mk 2 has a number of improvements over the Mk1 and the Mk3 has the unfortunate additions of a magazine drop safety and a loaded chamber indicator. Both make takedown and cleaning exponentially more difficult for a gun that is already pretty tricky to maintain. I went with tritium night sights on it too just for the heck of it. Shooting silently in the dark was too tempting to pass up.

-- Advanced Armament Corporation Pilot suppressor. I chose this one over the others in the running (Liberty Cans and Tactical Solutions) for a number of reasons. One was that the overall profile of the can portion was narrow enough that it would require no changes in the sight profiles. With the TacSol, the can actually obstructs the sight picture. Another is that it is audibly quieter. The TacSol was cheaper and you can take it apart, but the smaller profile and better sound reduction was worth the extra $50 to me.

-- Ruger 10/22T. Absolutely everyone on the planet should have a 10/22. It is easily one of the most versatile rifles ever made and aftermarket parts for it are just about everywhere. Get a stock 10/22 and a Midwayusa catalog and you're in for a long, long year of modifications. The T version comes with a hammer forged heavy barrell. Threading will cost me an additional $150 at my local gun shop, but they do good work so I won't complain. I contemplated getting a second Federal stamp to cut it down to a 10" short barrelled rifle, but that will have to wait. It's fitted out with a EOTech red dot sight on a Weaver rail. The next modifications will probably be a Tactical Solutions extended mag release. I also need to make a trip to Virginia to get some hi-cap 45 round magazines.

I toyed with the idea of a bipod, but don't want to look too gravel pit commando.

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As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

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Quintin_Stone wrote:
As if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

Not quite millions, but I appreciate the gesture. Not to mention the fact that the whole idea of a suppressor is so that folks are blissfully unaware that I'm plinking in my basement so there won't be any voices crying out in terror.

One of my buds has the very same setup and had a situation a month or so ago. His wife came upstairs screaming that there was a skunk in the back yard with a dead kitten in its mouth. He lives in a townhouse and couldn't exactly break out the 870, so he pulled out the 10/22, fitted the can, and fired two shots into the offending animal's brain pan from his balcony.

No one noticed.

Ah, the simple pleasures.

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He lives in a townhouse and couldn't exactly break out the 870, so he pulled out the 10/22, fitted the can, and fired two shots into the offending animal's brain pan from his balcony.

Pardon my bluntness, but what a dumb, hick way to deal with the "situation". Now that guy has got a dead kitten AND a dead skunk on his property. I seriously cannot see who this is better than just waiting for the skunk to leave.

Your friend's incident, by the way, showcases my main reason for wariness with the whole private handgun ownership thing -- when you have a hammer in your hand, everything begins to look like a nail. Just like most of the very artificial, contrived, and flat out imaginary "you totally needs guns to protect yourself and your family" this case of yours shows how guns are being jumped to as complete non-solutions for utter non-problems.

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Reminds me of the Simpsons episode when Homer joins the NRA and uses his gun to open beer cans and to turn on the TV.

I am quite fascinated by guns, but wouldn't necessarily want to own one. Firing a HK G36 was quite fun, but I can't imagine it being fun after having fired hundreds of rounds into simple targets. Anyway, gun control laws in Germany are very strict, so owning one isn't even in the picture.

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Firing a HK G36 was quite fun, but I can't imagine it being fun after having fired hundreds of rounds into simple targets.

I still enjoy shooting after having fired thousands of rounds.

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I seriously cannot see who this is better than just waiting for the skunk to leave.

I don't know. It's probably far cheaper than calling a pest control place, far quicker than waiting for it to leave, and a good insurance policy against the animal turning rabid.

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Reaper81 wrote:
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Firing a HK G36 was quite fun, but I can't imagine it being fun after having fired hundreds of rounds into simple targets.

I still enjoy shooting after having fired thousands of rounds.

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I seriously cannot see who this is better than just waiting for the skunk to leave.

I don't know. It's probably far cheaper than calling a pest control place, far quicker than waiting for it to leave, and a good insurance policy against the animal turning rabid.

Perhaps we are hammer-addled nail pounders, but I have to agree with you on all points. Skunks, racoons, and possum populations in this area have actually grown to the level of public health hazard. Calling animal control past business hours would have been a non-starter and "humanely" dealing with the issue would most likely have resulted in stinking up the entire neighborhood (with ground zero being right on his ground floor entryway).

Now, if I could only get one of those Anton Chigurgh hairspray cans for my 590 to deal with the deer.....

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Edwin wrote:
Can you post your entire setup? I'd like to create another smaller "In case of Zombies" box with your .22 setup just like in the book.

Btw, I just read a fascinating statistic about class three arms. The number one and two markets for class three arms in the United States are not that surprising: 1) Texas and 2) Florida. Them Southerners love their machineguns.

The third one sort of surprised me though: 3) Maryland.

I joke a lot about the Democratic People's Republic of Maryland, but we're pretty well armed ourselves.

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And as always, The Onion has to add something relevant:

TheOnion wrote:

Poke With Stick Confirms Raccoon's Death May 30, 2008 | Issue 44•22

HINSDALE, IL—Upon arriving on the scene of a possible raccoon fatality, brothers Jason Everson, 11, and Tyler Everson, 9, were able to positively confirm the small rodent's demise by carefully prodding the lifeless creature several times with a stick, sources reported Tuesday. The Eversons resorted to the highly reliable jabbing test only after a thorough tossing of rocks and an empty soda can at the small mammal yielded no reaction. "We threw stuff at it and then ran away," Jason Everson said of their preliminary investigation. "But we couldn't tell if the stone moved it, or if it was one of those animals that played dead and then bites you." Once they had obtained conclusive proof that the raccoon was deceased, both of the brothers on the scene reportedly wished it was still alive.

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I almost literally ran into a skunk once a long time ago while walking on a dark suburban path. We faced each other for a couple of seconds, and then I backed away and put some distance between us as he continued on into the night. Diplomacy worked on that occasion. Or is that what's known as appeasement?

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If you can kill a skunk fast without getting it riled up, then the stink will be minimal. Dead skunks on the highway stink because someone ran over them with their car and ruptured their musk glands, thus spreading mr skunky's personal defense armament across the tarmac. Plug em in the head and you're good to go. My dad used to always shoot skunks that wandered onto our farm because they are very often rabies carriers, and while the animal itself was pretty rank, once it was in a garbage bag you'd never know it had been there.

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Certis wrote:
She's mine! Back off you bastards!

Is this why you run around wearing a clothes pin on your nose?

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She's mine! Back off you bastards!

No offense, but you just made me think of both Linda Blair from the Exorcist ("the sow is mine!!") and Clancy Brown from Highlander ("not for very much longer") at the same time.

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I'm not sure how to feel about my husbands apparent belief that talking about disposing of vermin is a sure fire man magnet...

Should I be boning up on exterminator manuals, honey?

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Paleocon wrote:
I toyed with the idea of a bipod, but don't want to look too gravel pit commando.

I love the afterthought... as if this is what would push it from being totally reasonable and average, over the line to just plain silly.

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clover wrote:
Paleocon wrote:
I toyed with the idea of a bipod, but don't want to look too gravel pit commando.

I love the afterthought... as if this is what would push it from being totally reasonable and average, over the line to just plain silly.

It's a slippery slope. One day, you're thinking "what's a bipod or folding stock". The next day you look like this:

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That's how I'll picture you in my mind from now on.

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Quintin_Stone wrote:
That's how I'll picture you in my mind from now on.

That was me on a diet.

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Paleocon wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
That's how I'll picture you in my mind from now on.

That was me on a diet.

A diet of what? Babies?

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Rat Boy wrote:
Paleocon wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
That's how I'll picture you in my mind from now on.

That was me on a diet.

A diet of what? Babies?

Mmmm, babies.

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Lunabean, when are you going to grow up and stop playing video games?
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cartoonin99 wrote:
Mmmm, babies.

Reeeaaaal baby back ribs!

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Good lord, I wouldn't have expected brilliance like that from that nemeslut Quintin Stone!

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Nice setup Paleo. I'm wanting to get a suppressed weapon as well, but I'll probably go for a pistol caliber carbine. Preferably in .45 cal.

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Paleocon wrote:
The number one and two markets for class three arms in the United States are not that surprising: 1) Texas and 2) Florida. Them Southerners love their machineguns.
I understand from your posting history that you've got a pretty particular view of Southerners but those two states are not at all what I think of when someone says "The South." If anything, "The South" is everything between those two states.

Wikipedia helps illustrate:

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Modern definition The states in dark red are almost always included in modern day definitions of the South, while those in medium red are usually included. Maryland and Missouri are occasionally considered Southern, while Delaware is only rarely considered part of the South. Oklahoma is sometimes considered Southern because the area of Oklahoma, then known as Indian Territory, was allied with the Confederacy. West Virginia is considered Southern by many, because it was once part of Virginia.

I guess you'd say I use the dark red definition.

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That reminds me of the line from Days of Thunder:

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Randy Quaid: "Californians aren't Yankees. They're not really anything."

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That reminds me of the line from Days of Thunder:

Randy Quaid: "Glendale, California"
Robert Duvall: "He's a Yankee?"
Randy Quaid: "Californians aren't Yankees. They're not really anything."

Words hurt, you know.

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Grumpicous wrote:
I understand from your posting history that you've got a pretty particular view of Southerners but those two states are not at all what I think of when someone says "The South." If anything, "The South" is everything between those two states.

Wikipedia helps illustrate:


Wooo I'm a demographic! I think from what I've seen, we could careless about "fancy" guns. The only requirement is "does it kill?" and we're good to go.

Funny story about guns and the south. Crime in our town has been on the rise recently and our "re-elected" mayor suggested this as the solution. Now this isn't your typical small southern back woods town, oh no, this is the capital of Alabama. I can't wait to live outside the red.

And yes I have a shotgun within reach.