Kid degrades plastic bag in 3 months
Tuesday, May 27th, 2008 - 10:23am
The 16 yr old even isolated the bacteria involved in the process and describes what growth medium you would need to do this on a large industrial scale. I hope he patents it and makes the oil industry send him a check.
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This has the potential to be huge. I'm curious how he came up with the idea. Also wonder how real this is. If everything seems to be on the up and up this has the potential to be huge.
McChuck wrote:
A guy on Slashdot suggested that this is not exactly something that hasn't been researched before.
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Potential effects from industrial scale?
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Its going to made into CO2 no matter if you let nature do it or if you speed up the process. After the carbon is removed from the ground thats where it is going to go.
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I don't see how speeding up the process is really a great idea.
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Because then you don't have landfills packed to the brim with the stupid things.
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wordsmythe wrote:
Which means you need to dedicate less land to landfills. This is particularly important in Japan where they've been destroying some of what little remaining forest they have to build landfills.
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We all just need to stop buying cheap Chinese crap that has no purpose but to fill our landfills (and poison our kids). I say boycott Wal*Mart and every "dollar" store out there until they smarten up.
Gee, I'm grumpy today.
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In an span of time where a dollar rubbed together with another dollar will get you jack and sh*t don't bet on people giving up their Walmart.
Do you ever walk alone like a drifter in the dark?
Yeah, walmart is entrenched. The way to do these eco friendly ideas is show them in a way that they save money for companies. Then market forces will force a shift towards them.
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PSN: BoogleGWJBoycotts only work for people who have enough money to buy with their ethics. Considering the rising costs of healthcare against Wal*mart offering a lot of generic drugs for $4 a bottle, well, money speaks.
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I would argue the incentive lies with producers of these products to find a way to reduce manufacturing and input costs.
shihonage wrote:
PSN: BoogleGWJWhile I guess it's interesting the kid found some bacteria that biodegrades plastic, it seems misguided. It's just treating a symptom instead of fixing the problem.
Almost every retailer around here is selling reusable bags. Many grocery stores have plastic bag recycling bins. Plastic bags can be recycled, so why go to all the trouble of decomposing them? Are the people who can't be bothered to recycle them today suddenly going to start saving up their plastic bags for the biodegrader?
Start charging 25 cents a bag at the grocery store for plastic and see how many people start using the reusable bags.
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Because there are certain kinds of plastic that can't be recycled.
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Okay... but his research was only on the specific plastic (polyethelene) used in grocery bags. It'd be great if it worked for non-recyclable plastics and who knows, maybe it will, but it's coming off as a wondrous solution for the Great Plastic Bag Plague, which it's not.
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Walmart's logistics is built around 2 things: Government subsidization of roads and highways, and cheap fuel. It will be interesting to see how they do in the next few years now that diesel is so high and the truckers that work for them have to eat the rising fuel costs.
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The producers are subsidized by the Chinese regime and therefore can afford to flood North America with garbage that nobody on this continent can compete with in manufacturing. Then, in order to further line their pockets, the Chinese manufacturers use sub-standard and dangerous materials to save another buck. Wal*Mart then brings it in by the container-load to sell to Ma and Pa Hillbilly. Lead-laden paint and all.
We North Americans just can't seem to get enough and we won't learn until it's far too late.
Man,... I'm really cranky today. I'm going home for a drink.
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I guess I'm the only one that read "degrades" in the wrong sense. All I could picture was a kid insulting and humiliating the bag.
Invade or tariff.
shihonage wrote:
PSN: BoogleGWJI read similar research (can't find the article, but it was the National Mexican University; UNAM) that also detected a specific type of Bacteria that degraded a specific type of plastic.
I don't presume to know much about plastic or chemicals (or grammar for that matter, but bare with me), but I think that besides improving the landfill dilema, a degraded plastic is a broken down plastic; i.e., down to the molecular level, and hence goes back into the ecosystem as something usable again; either by nature, or us.
The problem (and I use the term lightly) was that the resources used up to create the plastic bag could not be reused until the plastic bag erroded away, which until this little fellow's science experiment, took thousands and thousands of years.
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I don't know why, but that just sounds funny to me. I mean, aren't all the mexicans up here in the states now? Why do they have a university?
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We migrate only during warm weather.
University? It gives us something to do during the cold seasons.
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Uhh kinda lots of slanted ranting but whatever makes you feel better.
No matter how you spin it forwards backwards or upside down the fact is China is tired of living in huts and is taking their slice of the pie.
You know, I can agree with all the criticisms on Chinese manufacturer's lack of moral responsibility in this thread or anywhere else. However, I can't get over offhand comments like these (because the one quoted above is not the only such example I've seen in the forum) that seem to jokingly insinuate that China's making its leap to the 21st century all the way from back in the middle ages.
"Three blokes go into a pub. One of them is kind of stupid, and the whole scene unfolds with a tedious inevitability." - Bill Bailey
The simple answer for the individual is to just not use them, or at least reduce the consumption of them as much as possible. Don't let the cashier throw two things and a bag and start a new one. Don't bag large items, like jugs of milk and juice. If it's just a couple of things, tell the cashier to keep the bag. If you're disciplined, carry some bags with you to use. My wife has three collapse-ables that fit in her purse and a canvas bag that she keeps in the car. We've damn near quit using them completely. I'd use paper for any overage we have at the store if I could find it in the self-checkout lanes. I know that's the hippie answer and probably not practical on a large scale, but my personal consumption of the god-forsaken things is the only thing I can really control.
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They're not? Damn you Fox News!
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"Dhelor + intarwebs = Great ideas." - wordsmythe
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As I already said, this science experiment is not a breakthrough. Research about this has been done before.
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"I'd say I was joining the winning team, but that'd imply there existed a time when I wasn't on team evil."
If you compare their average income in 2008 compared to 1950 is that really that huge a stretch? I'm the opposite I cant get over the offhand comments as if they are trying to poison the world and are all out slave masters while ignoring that they have managed some pretty amazing reforms and growth to their society since Mao and the opening up in the late 70's. If you compare where they started on their development path to what they currently have managed that analogy really isn't that much of a stretch at all.
It only took one beer and a good sleep to make me feel better today. Sorry for the rant. Todays mantra is; Reduce, re-use, recycle. Ahh, I do feel better.
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