The proper %!&@ing use of profanity

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I confess I've only listened to two of the conference calls so far. With my new hours at work I may start listening to them on the drive in to kill time.

A funny observation was made that the podcasts start out so formal but by the end they drop the dreaded "f-word" routinely.

I really was brought up not to swear in mixed company. After you hang out with the same people for awhile sooner or later someone slips and the next thing you know everyone is throwing expletives around like a bunch of sailors on shore leave. That's ok though, because I always thought that was a sign of comfort, like you felt good around those people. Honestly, I get a similar vibe off the GWJ podcasts.

I don't use profanity much on-line. I just don't. I don't know those people, I'm not comfortable around them. I think it sounds incredibly immature to just say fsck every 15 seconds.

Not to mention, there is no context. You can't just drop an expletive for the hell of it. That doesn't make any sense. It's incredibly poor communication. You are trying to do what? Share your frustration? Your inadequacy? Your lingering self doubt that you're spending too much time on-line while everyone else is out partying, getting drunk, and having sex? Don't feel too bad. I'm married so I don't party or get drunk anymore either.

I knew a guy who served in the Marines. His use of profanity was damn near poetic. He understood the use of profanity as a way to drive a point home. He could use swear words like commas and it seemed natural.

I get on Live and these guys just sound pathetic. I feel like I'm hanging out with a bunch of 5th graders who are learning how to swear when their parents aren't around. Yes, Johnny, you're such a big boy dropping f-bombs when your mother isn't around to smack you upside the head.

It's not the profanity that bothers me so much, it's the utter lack of knowledge of how to use it. Most people I've met on Live use profanity with about the same proficiency as their first attempt to unclasp a bra.

Funny how the (few) women I've met on-line don't seem to devolve into foul-mouthed cretins.

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Botswana wrote:
Funny how the (few) women I've met on-line don't seem to devolve into foul-mouthed cretins.

I guess we haven't played enough then.

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lunabean wrote:
Botswana wrote:
Funny how the (few) women I've met on-line don't seem to devolve into foul-mouthed cretins.

I guess we haven't played enough then.

You don't count as a pubbie. No one from GWJ does.

I don't remember from our single Halo session, but I would expect you to be as proficient as the next Goodjer. I'm assuming most people here are old enough to form proper sentences around their favorite socially unacceptable four letter word?

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Also, what did I miss? I still have no idea what QFT means.

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lunabean wrote:
Botswana wrote:
Funny how the (few) women I've met on-line don't seem to devolve into foul-mouthed cretins.

I guess we haven't played enough then.

I was thinking, "I need to get my wife on Live. That'll f*%k'n learn 'im!"

The young ones are fun to listen to. They still have to consciously add the profanities. They have yet to fully assimilate vulgarity into their everyday speech patterns.

Some of us have jobs where we can swear like wounded pirates. I like that about this place.

Oh, and all the best "swearers" I have ever met were Marines. Must be some official Corp training.

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Botswana wrote:
Also, what did I miss? I still have no idea what QFT means.

Quoted for truth.

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I've been swearing pretty regularly in conversation since I was about 10. My mother swears, my father swears, my grandfather SWEARS.

They aren't profane people, they are all very intelligent and worldly. But, if something is just a big stupid f*cking pile of sh*t, there just doesn't seem any reason to call it otherwise.

Personally I think people get hung up too much on it. I have found that when people get around me they end up swearing more by the end of our conversation because they realize profanity moves a f*cking conversation along so well.

When you are comfortable with swearing you don't have to think of the f*cking modifiers to go with all the rest of the words you are trying to get out before you run out of breath.

I read a study once that said that grown-ups swear a lot because it's not socially acceptable to cry anymore. That the swearing is a way of expressing pure discomfort and frustration with something without having to look in a f*cking dictionary.

That's probably why men usually swear more than women. And, probably why people under a lot of stress swear more than hippies and deadbeats.

It could all be a bunch of bullsh*t, though. You know how these f*cking scientists are. Always trying to prove sh*t.

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Here's the proper use of profanity. (Single f-bomb dropped, view with caution.) By a woman, no less. It had me rolling when I saw it this morning.

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I never used to swear until I took a sales job.

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Frak!

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I was taught to curse by my uncle while on vacation to his house in Minneapolis.
Only if its in a proper sentence with correct grammar.
And never in concurrent sentences because otherwise overuse is possible.
I break these rules, but they make good guidelines for beginning swearers.

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Quintin_Stone wrote:
Frak!

See, that's the kind of sh*t I'm talking about. Just dropping an expletive for no good reason. I don't know what you're trying to say.

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Swearing = lack of common manners.
Swearing in presence of ladies = utter lack of fundamental manners.
Swearing online = pathetic sign of the inhibitions removal aided by the anonymity.

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Gorilla.800.lbs wrote:
Swearing = lack of common manners.
Swearing in presence of ladies = utter lack of fundamental manners.
Swearing online = pathetic sign of the inhibitions removal aided by the anonymity.

What about the aforementioned swearing when you're in the comfort of friends? Or does that not count since the lack of manners may not necessarily apply?

Though I won't argue with the second two points and I'm asking in all honesty and not to be a smartass.

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Botswana wrote:
See, that's the kind of sh*t I'm talking about. Just dropping an expletive for no good reason. I don't know what you're trying to say.

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Botswana wrote:
Quintin_Stone wrote:
Frak!

See, that's the kind of sh*t I'm talking about. Just dropping an expletive for no good reason. I don't know what you're trying to say.

I think he's trying to communicate his nerdy love for Battle Star Galactica...

Of - power - insessantly
Plagued - by - malefisense
Doomed - to - insidious -
Death - is - he - who - breaks
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I swear a lot. In idle conversation, at work, school, in games, with my mother, etc. Profanity are fine words, strong terms to convey meaning. Any juvenile sense of "bad" has no place in an adult's mind.

You need a sense of propriety. It's not like I swear in a job interview or on a first date(Ideally I can get colorful).

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My wife is the funniest 'swearer' I know. She seems to be actually physically incapable of swearing naturally; every four letter word sounds like she's just trying it out, seeing if it's ok that she said it.

It still make me laugh every time she tries, because now she looks at me after cursing, like she's asking, "Was that one ok?" No, honey, it wasn't, but that's ok; I still love you.

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Quintin_Stone wrote:
Botswana wrote:
See, that's the kind of sh*t I'm talking about. Just dropping an expletive for no good reason. I don't know what you're trying to say.

Wiener bomb!

A sterling example of the improper usage of profanity. Impressive, Stone. I didn't think you had it in you to contribute something meaningful to the discussion.

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Botswana wrote:

What about the aforementioned swearing when you're in the comfort of friends?

I still feel it adds an undercurrent of subconscious hostility, lowering the feng shui of the room, something like that. Whenever I slip like this I ask myself why did I just say "f*ck", really, and maybe it's time to stop doing whatever drove me to it ?

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shihonage wrote:
Botswana wrote:

What about the aforementioned swearing when you're in the comfort of friends?

I still feel it adds an undercurrent of subconscious hostility, lowering the feng shui of the room, something like that. Whenever I slip like this I ask myself why did I just say "f*ck", really, and maybe it's time to stop doing whatever drove me to it ?


I think that only really applies if it's said in a negative sense. It is quite possible to curse positively. As in, "That was a f*ckin sweet headshot!", or "I almost sh*t myself, that was so pretty."

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LouZiffer wrote:
A sterling example of the improper usage of profanity. Impressive, Stone. I didn't think you had it in you to contribute something meaningful to the discussion.

I surprise even myself sometimes.

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Mandatory viewing for students of the art: http://www.fourletterfilm.com/

Cool documentary, and an interesting analysis of how various segments of society view what is, in actuality, simply a word.

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I swear a lot when I game. I can't help it. It's a weakness and I think I picked it up when working construction and at a lighting and sound company when I was younger. I do however have my limits, for example there are some words I can't see myself ever using even in a heated moment. I also avoid if at possible when writing on forums or in e-mails etc. I also have the ability to carry on a whole conversation without having to use a swear word although some teens and young adults I know can't manage to say 3 words without swearing and I find that annoying. So annoying in fact I generally prefer to avoid having conversations with people like that.

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Chumpy_McChump wrote:
shihonage wrote:
Botswana wrote:

What about the aforementioned swearing when you're in the comfort of friends?

I still feel it adds an undercurrent of subconscious hostility, lowering the feng shui of the room, something like that. Whenever I slip like this I ask myself why did I just say "f*ck", really, and maybe it's time to stop doing whatever drove me to it ?


I think that only really applies if it's said in a negative sense. It is quite possible to curse positively. As in, "That was a f*ckin sweet headshot!", or "I almost sh*t myself, that was so pretty."

In a way it applies in all cases. Using f*cking as a universal adjective devolves a coversation into some sort of a primal, uneducted state. Uncivilized, really.

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sh*t/f*ck are automatic when i game and 99.5% they're aimed at me.

Botswana wrote:
Funny how the (few) women I've met on-line don't seem to devolve into foul-mouthed cretins.

Should see my girlfriend trying to play RB6:V she'd make a sailor blush.

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MoonDragon wrote:
In a way it applies in all cases. Using f*cking as a universal adjective devolves a coversation into some sort of a primal, uneducted state. Uncivilized, really.

It's just a word. Its only power is what people ascribe to it.

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MoonDragon wrote:
Chumpy_McChump wrote:
shihonage wrote:
Botswana wrote:

What about the aforementioned swearing when you're in the comfort of friends?

I still feel it adds an undercurrent of subconscious hostility, lowering the feng shui of the room, something like that. Whenever I slip like this I ask myself why did I just say "f*ck", really, and maybe it's time to stop doing whatever drove me to it ?


I think that only really applies if it's said in a negative sense. It is quite possible to curse positively. As in, "That was a f*ckin sweet headshot!", or "I almost sh*t myself, that was so pretty."

In a way it applies in all cases. Using f*cking as a universal adjective devolves a coversation into some sort of a primal, uneducted state. Uncivilized, really.

Anything that gets complicated emotion and description faster and more efficiently across in a spoken language is neither uneducated, nor uncivilized.

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Quintin_Stone wrote:
MoonDragon wrote:
In a way it applies in all cases. Using f*cking as a universal adjective devolves a coversation into some sort of a primal, uneducted state. Uncivilized, really.

It's just a word. Its only power is what people ascribe to it.

Exactly how I feel.

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