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The draft is over, time for a new thread.

Roger Goodell held a press conference today regarding Spygate, after having met with Matt Walsh, who earlier this week submitted his tapes to the league.

The findings are, basically, nothing. No new accusations. No Super Bowl walkthrough that the Boston Herald claimed earlier this year. Walsh said he was setting up gear during the walkthrough, but did not tape it, nor did he see anyone else taping or ever see a tape of it afterward.

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So Beellichick is still saaaavy.

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Lofa Tatupu was reportedly arrested for DUI.

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Lofa Tatupu was reportedly arrested for DUI.

*sticks fingers in ears* la la la I can't hear you.

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Lofa Tatupu was reportedly arrested for DUI.
Why don't these guys just hire a personal driver when they go out drinking? It's not like he couldn't afford it.

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Since it's a first offense, Tatupu won't face a suspension, just the loss of a game check.

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Tom Brady blames ESPN for making Spygate into the scandal that it was. Gee, so you think the people doing the taping are blameless?

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Boston Harald Apologizes. In my opinion, a little late. They waited until they were caught red handed before they fessed up to poor journalism.

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Boston Harald Apologizes. In my opinion, a little late. They waited until they were caught red handed before they fessed up to poor journalism.

The Super Bowl tape was supposed to be the indictment against the Patriots' legacy and now that it doesn't exist, Spygate's effectively dead at this point. Sure, there are plenty of suspicions and inconsistencies, but Roger Goodell seems content to take a knee and run out the clock.

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Arlen Specter's statement reveals a little bit more than Goodell let on.

One nice tidbit was on how the team avoided getting caught taping:

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During at least one game, the January 27, 2002 AFC Championship game, Walsh was specifically instructed not to wear anything displaying a Patriots logo. Walsh indicated he turned the Patriots sweatshirt he was wearing at the time inside-out. Walsh was also given a generic credential instead of one that identified him as team personnel.

Walsh didn't tape the Rams walkthrough, but he was present during it, and relayed some info to one of the Pats' assistant coaches. Some have wondered how the Rams staff would have let a Patriots staffer be present during the walkthrough. One has to imagine he wasn't wearing full Patriots regalia.

It also detailed how they used a tape of signals against Tampa Bay in a 2000 regular season game. An offensive player studied the signals. The team ran a no-huddle offense, the offensive player watched Tampa's signals, and the player relayed the call to Charlie Weis, who told Tom Brady over his earpiece what was coming. According to Walsh, they were able to read 75% of Tampa's defensive calls.

Still, this one's getting away with a simple "I mis-interpreted de rrrulez."

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I just got the email from the Cowboys that if I want my season tickets to transfer to the new stadium, I have to hand over $10k for 2 "personal seat licenses".

Looking at Stars tickets instead.

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magnus wrote:
I just got the email from the Cowboys that if I want my season tickets to transfer to the new stadium, I have to hand over $10k for 2 "personal seat licenses".

Looking at Stars tickets instead.

I wonder if the 'Boys will have the same luck with PSLs that the Raiders had.

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But hey, if you haven't spent enough on the PSL, you can always by PAVEMENT.

Greedy effin bastards.

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Vince Young is so classy.

The drinking, however, comes second to rollin' shirtless at what looks to be quite a sausage party...

At least Leinart and Orton were photographed with chicks...

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*Legion* wrote:
At least Leinart and Orton were photographed with chicks...

Orton was also drinking a handle of Jack instead of one of those "hand-blown" Patron toys.

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wordsmythe wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
At least Leinart and Orton were photographed with chicks...

Orton was also drinking a handle of Jack instead of one of those "hand-blown" Patron toys.

I would at least have gone for absinthe. I mean its legal know.

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wordsmythe wrote:
*Legion* wrote:
At least Leinart and Orton were photographed with chicks...

Orton was also drinking a handle of Jack instead of one of those "hand-blown" Patron toys.

I would at least have gone for absinthe. I mean its legal know.

...and completely nasty. Just buy a drop of LSD -- cheaper, less work to imbibe, and a better high.

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wordsmythe wrote:
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At least Leinart and Orton were photographed with chicks...

Orton was also drinking a handle of Jack instead of one of those "hand-blown" Patron toys.

And where's Orton now?

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And where's Orton now?

That's what Lovie said.

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I'll admit Orton is no Marino, but I don't think he's any further from Marino than Grossman is.

Except, of course, in that Grossman keeps getting the top spot long after he's shown how much of an albatross he is.

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Except, of course, in that Grossman keeps getting the top spot long after he's shown how much of an albatross he is.

The way I remember it, albatross was a ship's good luck, 'til some idiot killed it.

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Except, of course, in that Grossman keeps getting the top spot long after he's shown how much of an albatross he is.

The way I remember it, albatross was a ship's good luck, 'til some idiot killed it.

Yes, I've read a poem. Try not to faint.

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wordsmythe wrote:
Except, of course, in that Grossman keeps getting the top spot long after he's shown how much of an albatross he is.

The way I remember it, albatross was a ship's good luck, 'til some idiot killed it.

Yes, I've read a poem. Try not to faint.

OMG! Rat Boy has watched Firefly! *faint*

Nicely done.

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wordsmythe wrote:
Except, of course, in that Grossman keeps getting the top spot long after he's shown how much of an albatross he is.

The way I remember it, albatross was a ship's good luck, 'til some idiot killed it.

Yes, I've read a poem. Try not to faint.

OMG! Rat Boy has watched Firefly! *faint*

Nicely done.

Rat Boy, if you think Rex is any better than a dead waterfowl, please help me believe you.

He's dead, Jim.

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Wow.

Despite urgings from Roger Goodell, the NFL owners voted 32-0 to opt out of the current CBA.

That means 2008 and 2009 are business as usual, 2010 is an "uncapped" year, and 2011 looms as a possible work stoppage.

The NFL owners agreed to an overly player-friendly CBA extension in 2006. They're going to take back that ground and more.

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The NFL owners agreed to an overly player-friendly CBA extension in 2006. They're going to take back that ground and more.
I disagree.

The NFL promoting players as celebrities is a double-edged sword. It increases awareness and generates excitement/ticket sales/etc., but it gives the players huge leverage should they decide not to play.

I think the only real reform I think they're going to get out of this is fixing the rookie contract situation. From what I've read it seems like most NFL teams are overextended debt-wise and can't afford a work stoppage. With the celeb factor and the ultimate trump card of a strike, the owners will either have to consolidate/move small-market teams (bad for the league overall, IMHO) or capitulate.

Personally, I welcome a work stoppage. It would mean that I'd have a chance at season tickets.

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Minase wrote:
I disagree.

The NFL promoting players as celebrities is a double-edged sword. It increases awareness and generates excitement/ticket sales/etc., but it gives the players huge leverage should they decide not to play.

(...)

From what I've read it seems like most NFL teams are overextended debt-wise and can't afford a work stoppage.

You're right about the debt. That's why some "insiders" are already hearing that there won't be a work stoppage, but instead NFL owners are prepared to repeat 1987's replacement players solution. While not the NFL's most popular moment, let's not forget that the approach folded the player's union after three weeks. The owners most certainly haven't forgotten. It would not take very much to get the players to turn on Gene Upshaw, IMO.

I don't think for one shadow of a second that the NFL is going to allow itself to be beholden to the players' union.

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I think the big deal here are the rookie contracts more than anything else. Fixing that would go a long way to solving this problem.

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I think every football player needs a blog woman like Chris Cooley's.

Fixed.

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BlackSheep wrote:
I think the big deal here are the rookie contracts more than anything else. Fixing that would go a long way to solving this problem.

I'm sure it would never fly, but I am all for almost entirely performance based contracts.

You would get some amount guaranteed per year based on time in the league (and for rookies which round of the draft - maybe some variation within the first round for upper picks, but I'd prefer not).

From there if you rush for 1000 yards or get 10 tuchdowns or whatnot, you get bonuses.

If you have to miss a week, you're getting paid your smaller guaranteed money but you won't get your bonus for performance for that week.

In that kind of a system, your stars are going to make the most and your busts/third-stringers will make the least.

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