Bob Barr announces Libertarian Party candidacy
Monday, May 12th, 2008 - 4:24pm
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
You think? Bit of a longshot. Are many people even aware of the concept of Libertarianism?
Xbox Live: StaatsM
I would say there is a good chunk of the voting public at least aware of the concept.
I don't know how well known he is in conservative circles (not being in conservative circles makes judging this difficult), but if he runs a pretty good campaign he could be Naderesque with 1-2% of the vote.
Fletcher wrote:
He engineered and successfully led the Clinton impeachment. I would think that makes him remarkably well known in conservative circles.
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
Won't amount to squat.
Fedaykin98 wrote:
Depends, I suspect in strong democartic states, he'll take a good deal more of the vote than that. The conservative wing of the Republican party is very unhappy right now, McCain tossed a few crumbs their way when he had competition, then he's made a beeline for the other side of the aisle the moment he got the nod.
"Also, I have four legs and am covered in wool. Baa!" *Legion* reveals his inner furry.
I think he'll have a tremendous impact on McCain's chances in the South. Many Southern Conservatives will flock to him, leaving their state likely in the Democrats hands (unless there is a spoiler on the Liberal side of the fence, too -- Nader does not seem to count any more).
I don't know if it will end up being Naderistic, but it's another reason that Hillary must be pounding her head against the wall tonight. Democrats are never going to have a better shot at the White House, and she just can't get the nomination. It must be killing her inside.
Sweet.
I like it. Maybe just for the fact its an attempt to break the 2 party system which makes no sense to me as a Canadian where theres a party for everything. We just need Nader to run also then Hillary to spin off and have a 5 person race of the ages! (with Obama winning though ;P)
Nader IS running this year, as an independent.
Xbox Live tag Gorilla800lbs
Yeah, but I bet he isn't a public breast licking Libertarian!
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
Uhhh ... what? heh. His fiscal policy, as far as I can tell, bears no relation whatsoever to McCain's. I'd love to know the basis behind this statement.
As a libertarian, I'd have some reservations about voting for this guy, but he's so much better than either of the mainstream candidates that I'll probably end up supporting him. I'm especially concerned about his record vs. drug enforcement, Iraq, and the PATRIOT Act.
Remember: this conversation is just between you and me ... and the NSA.
Well, he doesn't think much of atheists. He's just a frustrated Republican looking for a way to run. And frankly, the damage he did with the Clinton impeachment makes me question his judgement in general.
This page may be of interest.
Bob Barr is a Hard-Core Conservative.
“Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly.” Atty Gen'l John Ashcroft, on secret NSC torture guideline discussions.
Yup. His empassioned advocacy of the Defense of Marriage Act sort of makes him a pretty selective "libertarian".
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
Yes, as does his appearance to speak in front of a white supremacist group - he says he didn't know who they were before he agreed to speak, which I'd say definitely shows issues with judgement, though he's distanced himself from them effectively. Basically, it comes down to whether or not you believe in his Libertarian conversion, since there's no record from when he was not a Republican.
I'm willing to listen to what he has to say, but I remain extremely skeptical.
Remember: this conversation is just between you and me ... and the NSA.
According to this survey, I'm a moderate liberal. Next quiz, I'll support the death penalty more! Exonerating DNA evidence be damned, bring on the lethal injection!
And remember, the Japanese aren't commercially whaling. They're conducting "research". Like "researching how delicious this whale is". - Paleocon
You mean Bob Barr did that too? I just don't like the way he looks. Something about him is just not right. Highly scientific, I know.
Psychotic Foreign Teenage Chicks are so hot. - Legion
...they can also come bathe in the glorious, healing light of my Johnson. - Prederick
nice link Robear:
heh
"Also, I have four legs and am covered in wool. Baa!" *Legion* reveals his inner furry.
I wondered if anyone would take the test.
“Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly.” Atty Gen'l John Ashcroft, on secret NSC torture guideline discussions.
Guess where I fall.
“Why are we talking about this in the White House? History will not judge this kindly.” Atty Gen'l John Ashcroft, on secret NSC torture guideline discussions.
I'm just going to post this whenever I get called a conservative.
Psychotic Foreign Teenage Chicks are so hot. - Legion
...they can also come bathe in the glorious, healing light of my Johnson. - Prederick
Some of the questions were kind of vague, and I disagreed with what they said the "hardcore Libertarian" answer was, until I looked at the question a different way then I had when I took the test.
"Also, I have four legs and am covered in wool. Baa!" *Legion* reveals his inner furry.
Weird test. They define political ideologies... strangely - fiddling with some of the stranger questions, I noticed coal is apparently a conservative issue? Anyway:
Xbox Live: StaatsM
Well, I'm in a good place. I won't be voting for Barr, he's a republican not a libertarian.
For instance, there are 108 beads in a Catholic rosary and there are 108 stitches in a baseball. When I learned that, I gave Jesus a chance. ~Ron Shelton, Bull Durham, 1988
Yeah I was somewhat amused that coal oil and nuclear were all lumped together.
hmm so far both Minnesotans are in the Libertarian camp... coincidence?
"Also, I have four legs and am covered in wool. Baa!" *Legion* reveals his inner furry.
I was this way well before moving here.
Xbox Live: StaatsM
I don't want to re-take the test to get my position but I'm diagonal up and to the left of robear along the wall.
Fletcher wrote:
Seems about right.
Years ago I linked to a similar test but with more questions.
Elysium wrote:
Danjo wrote:
I'm a bit more centered in the left liberal section, right between the words. Does this mean I have to stop bathing?
Politely rude. Briskly vague. Firmly uninformative.
Totally. You might want to pick up some Birkenstocks too.
Psychotic Foreign Teenage Chicks are so hot. - Legion
...they can also come bathe in the glorious, healing light of my Johnson. - Prederick
We've come a long way, baby. (For the record, I still think of myself as pretty fundamentally Burkean.)
I'd guess that sort of depends on your definition of "conservative," but he's certainly courting moderates either way.
rabbit wrote:
1Dgaf wrote:
XBL: E Munnie