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...Travelling long distances with young children is taxing.
Greetings from the Carnival Glory! Currently my family and I are sailing north through the Caribbean, just off of the west coast of Cuba... and this internet connection is just as fast as my line at home. Weird.
We flew out of Calgary on Friday morning, about 1:00 AM. Most of that flight, the kids slept. Then we had a brief (2.5 hr) stopover in Montreal, and a quick hop to Orlando. Most of that flight my 2 year old was crying. We figure it is a combination of having to stay seated (on our laps), and the pressure changes in his ears as we ascended and descended.
We fly back in 2 days, and I was wondering if any of you have experience with this? I do not have the luxury of a midnight flight on the way back, and would like to make the flight more comfortable for my son. We are looking at about 7 hours in the air.
We tried Gravol, and he didn't want to wear the headphones to watch a movie. I've had someone tell me to massage him right in front of his ears, any other ideas?
I will check back in a bit, then update when we are settled in at home. This is about 75 cents a minute...
Thanks in advance!
P.S. Damn the sun is hot down here. ![]()
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Pacifiers or sippy cups. The sucking motion keeps his pressure regulated. This may not be useful for you because Pacifier policy widely varies from household to household. I can vouch for it, though. My two year old and I were on a two hour flight last month, and I think I had worse trouble with pressure. I also brought a portable DVD player and plenty of coloring/sticker books to keep him occupied during the flight. We have a strict policy that he not watch DVD's while travelling around town, but for long trips it's a godsend.
I don't envy you. Mine was hitting his limit at two hours. We drove back from Orlando, which is a 7-8 hour drive, and those last two hours were tough. At least we could stop and let him stretch his legs. Dunno what I'd do on a plane for that long.
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How attached to this child are you?
I can think of some suggestions but all of them require you parting with him rather permanently, so I'm guessing they're not really what you're in the market for.
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If you can't find the face plugs or sippy cups (like if you're at the airport), buy two bags of gummy worms to accomplish the same thing. Well, one bag is actually so you don't have to eat you're kids candy.
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Children's Benedryl is also a suggestion. It helps keep their ears open so they equalize pressure faster and keeps them a bit groggy which is also helpful when flying with very young children. (This of course depends on your attitude towards medicating your children.)
Yeah, the Caribbean is warm. Have fun on the Glory. We did the Carnival Imagination a couple of years ago with our daughter. Of course, she was 17 at the time so we had a different set of problems with her...
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Or you could try not bringing a 2-year-old on flights/cruises. He won't remember it and everyone around you will be grateful.
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It's true. Leaving the kid at home while you go on a cruise would be a much better idea. Oh wait.
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I'll second the Benadryl suggestion. I know it makes you feel like you are drugging your kid, which you essentially are, but it does keep them more relaxed and docile. Especially at such a young age where they really can't keep themselves entertained for that long a period.
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Well that's helpful.
Exactly. Just leave the fridge stocked with some ketchup and mustard in case they get hungry and run a DVD on repeat. They'll be fine.
I can't imagine why anyone would want to go on a vacation while they have small children.
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Yeah, because that's totally what I suggested. Too bad people don't have other individuals they know related by blood or familiarity that are capable of caring for children.
Look, on a long flight, crying kids are really annoying. I'm not "delicate" for feeling that way and I'm certainly not in the minority. Given that a two-year-old isn't going to remember the trip I don't really see a compelling reason to bring them along at all. Sorry if that offends anyone.
Y'know, what Zoidberg said wasn't exactly constructive either but nobody jumps all over him.
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And that's an entirely constructive thing to bring up to the guy that's looking for advice on what to do during the goddamn return trip. Way to add to the discussion.
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Sorry buzz, I wasn't aware that I wasn't permitted to express my frikkin opinion unless it was an immediately actionable and viable suggestion. Do forgive the trespass of an ignorant, self-righteous, childless outsider.
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That's awesome.
Unless it's a vacation with the kids' grandparents, where you can be all like, "have fun with the kids! I'm going to be over here taking a nap."
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Yeah, because that's exactly what I was saying. I'm sure Aries will get plenty out of, "Yeah don't take him on long trips (har, har, har)". I understand the short fuse young (suits ignorant and self-righteous simultaneously), childless people have with small kids. Everybody goes through that phase where a crying kid is worse than nails on a chalkboard. Doesn't make your post any less of a douchebag thing to say to a guy on his vacation.
Those are the best kind.
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I had pressure earaches from flying in airplanes all 6 times I flew (as well as tons of earaches as a kid). Those earaches suck, poor kid!
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I do remember seeing something called "Earplanes" that are supposed to adjust the pressure in the ears as the altitude rises.
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I'm 38 and I still want to strangle crying kids (and their parents). How about having some consideration for the 150 other people that paid good money to be crammed into an aluminum tube for hours? Odds are they are having just as stressful time traveling and they don't need the nails on the chalkboard or kicking the back of the seat treatment to complete their day.
Nasal spray will do the trick for adults. I've flown with my 15-month old several times, including over to Europe. She doesn't cry. Weird child.
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Yeah, I guess once you're out of the young kid stage that comes back. I did my damnedest to keep my 2 y.o. quiet and entertained on our flight last month. He got some compliments as we were getting off the plane so I guess I succeeded, but I'm pretty hard on myself. Sorry for projecting, but not all parents just let their kids go nuts. Or at least they try not to. Kids have a mind of their own. Usually good behavior is a direct result of planning and forethought on our part and missing one thing can cause it to unravel. If it unravels on a plane though, you can't exactly remove yourself from the situation, can you? Only thing you can do is not go, but that brings us back to where we started.
Anyway, sorry for getting my ass on my shoulders, Lob.
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I must share Magnus' luck. My daughter was around 18-20 months for a 4.5 hour flight. We had a sippy cup and pacifiers on hand, as well as lots of other stuff. She watched some DVD's, fell asleep for a while, etc. and never had a problem.
We had a crap ton of stuff to try and entertain her, but didn't really end up using it. I think having her in a dedicated seat in her car seat made the biggest difference. We have taken long car trips to the grandparents, so she was used to sitting in it for lengthy periods on occasion. Not that this helps you.
I'm guessing that entertainment is a much larger issue than ears, but you never know. If it is ears, suction and swallowing are your friends. Good luck, jerk!
I'll remember that the next time we go back to visit family. Leave the kids at home. They won't care not to see Grandmom and Granddad, and the neighbors won't mind keeping them while we're gone.
For pressure earaches, don't bother with earplugs or nasal sprays. Just pinch your nose closed with your fingers and then breath out through your nose. Works every time.
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Rum your kid up a little. Honestly. It'll knock him out.
A kid crying on a flight is really annoying but there is nothing you can do but try. If you look like you're attempting to quiet him up most people will understand the situation.
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Yeah Lobster, if it were my choice we would have left the kids at home. At least the 2 year old. This trip was a gift from their grandparents, and this is just the way it is. Believe me, us parents are probably more annoyed by the crying than the other people on board. He is not a fussy kid, so the crying is due to uncomfort, or pain. If there is one thing in the world that I would consider my weakness, it is to see my child in pain.
I am not an oblivious person, and I feel bad for the people around me who had to listen to him crying but there was nothing I could do at the time, with the knowledge I had. That is why I am here, asking a community of thoughtful and intelligent people for advise. I want to prevent this from happening on the way home, and I appreciate the thoughts put forward.
We bought some Benadryl just in case the Gravol didn't work, but we couldn't really double dose the poor kid on the way here. It was only the last part of the flight that got him. Flying into Orlando was frikkin hellish, with so much turbulance and pressure change.
I am hoping the flight back will be smooth enough for me to carry him up and down the aisle a bit just to break it up.
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Funny, huh? See Mobster, your suggestion could be construed as a call to child neglect, while I mearly implied murder. One will draw a worse response than the other my friend, there are rules about these things, rules.
That being said, I'm glad Aries got better advice than either of us were willing/able to give.
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The sippy-cup thing is a good idea, as well as ear-plugs of some sort. Pressure changes can be very hard on young folks, as they haven't learnt to clear their Eustachian Tubes yet. Chewing gum is recommended to help with that during ascents/descents (if kids can have it that young; I know nothing about kids!).
For what it's worth (Lob, this might work for you), a noise-cancelling headset is solid gold on long flights. Sure, they're not exactly cheap, but most people on this site don't seem to be scared of spending on tech. Since I got mine, flying has become a pleasure again. The high level of ambient noise on a jet is very fatiguing and irritating. Pilots wear extremely expensive noise-attenuating/cancelling headsets for a reason.
Wearing my headset has made flying much more pleasant, as I don't feel fatigued at the end of the flight, didn't hear the screaming kid in the back, and have learned to lip-read "sir, what would you like to drink?"
Aries, I've missed hanging out with you, man. Hope you're enjoying your cruise!
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Good idea. If you don't need to listen to something through the earphones, the cheap disposable ear plugs work even better. Jet noise, crying babies, bloodcurdling screams of "There's a monster on the wing of the plane!" - not a bit of it gets through.
For what it's worth, I've never been irritated by kids on any flights and rarely on the vacation itself, but have been annoyed by the adults on a regular basis.
I don't think anyone ever seriously suggested that every kid who cries is a mark of bad parenting or an unbearable nuisance. Sure it can be aggravating but that's part of life. I'm fairly sure we all know that when a topic like this comes up there will be 75% sarcastic/inappropriate suggestions, such as:
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If she can't handle the hard stuff, try liqueur. If you're concerned for your kid, know that my mom always did this, and I turned out just fine (besides the slight touch of alcoholism--really, it's just one of those personality quirks that makes me so interesting!).
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