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http://forums.ageofconan.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2

Go here and vote for the name of your servers.

At launch we now can confirm the server types will be.

PVP
PVE
RP-PVP

Go vote for your favorite name in the different categories.
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Suggestion - perhaps we should choose an RP-PVP and a PvE server, and skip a purely PvP server?

My theory is that an RP-PvP server may be less attractive to the "camping/griefing" type. We can have a PvE server as a backup for the faint of heart.

That way we at least don't split GWJerdom three ways.

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I've heard some compelling arguments in favor of the RP-PvP Server that have me leaning that way myself. In the end, I'll go with the flow, but if immature griefers will shy away from the RP tag, that might make it a more attractive option.

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DevilStick wrote:
Suggestion - perhaps we should choose an RP-PVP and a PvE server, and skip a purely PvP server?

My theory is that an RP-PvP server may be less attractive to the "camping/griefing" type. We can have a PvE server as a backup for the faint of heart.

That way we at least don't split GWJerdom three ways.

There will be asshats no matter which way go with the PvP server. Pretty sure there will be more of them than there is of us. Besides if we went RP i wouldn't be able to play with any of our mages. Nasty Stygians.

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ranalin wrote:
There will be asshats no matter which way go with the PvP server. Pretty sure there will be more of them than there is of us. Besides if we went RP i wouldn't be able to play with any of our mages. Nasty Stygians.

Is there some sort of enforced RP code? I've always taken the "RP" tag as "encouragement".

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Is there some sort of enforced RP code? I've always taken the "RP" tag as "encouragement".

I viewed that the same way. I didn't figure they'd monitor you for staying in "role" 100% of the time, having a complete character history written, talking in time-period dialect, and monitoring actions to ensure they are class appropriate. I figured it would just be a place where people who want to do all of that were more likely to find those of similar inclination.

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If we are playing on a RP server it is only a matter of time before I become that griefing asshole.

I am not sure how long I could take "Hark Ieth seeking a Humble groupeth for mineth yonder noble quests to slay the vicious pathers and removeth thine hides."
etc etc

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After messing around briefly with LOTRO on an RP server, I have to say, hands down, I love the feel of it. I'm not some larping furrie who needs to stay in context, but it was a VERY nice change from seeing WoW chat the past 3 years turn into a cess-pool of the most inane bullsh*t to ever spew from people's mouths. Plus, on RP, there should be a full OOC (Out of Character) channel to discuss Chuck Norris I'm sure

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DevilStick wrote:
My theory is that an RP-PvP server may be less attractive to the "camping/griefing" type.

And it would be more fun to grief serious RPers!

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Oh, come on now, Swat.. the Brokeback Murloc & Debbie Does Murloc trade channel chatter didn't have you giddy with joy?

I'd be surprised if people went to that extent, Wired, especially in Conan. Maybe more, "Letz go getz sum ale an' rape some woomen, eh?", though.

I'm good either way... though.. I might find it easier turn off channels easier than avoid the asshat who camps me at 11pm when all I wanted to do was get a little relaxing play time in before bed.

Of course, that's probably likely to happen on either server type sooner or later.

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ShadeRaven wrote:
Oh, come on now, Swat.. the Brokeback Murloc & Debbie Does Murloc trade channel chatter didn't have you giddy with joy?

I'd be surprised if people went to that extent, Wired, especially in Conan. Maybe more, "Letz go getz sum ale an' rape some woomen, eh?", though.

I'm good either way... though.. I might find it easier turn off channels easier than avoid the asshat who camps me at 11pm when all I wanted to do was get a little relaxing play time in before bed.

Of course, that's probably likely to happen on either server type sooner or later.

I know I posted my primer to FFA pvp. but the closed beta is an interesting enigma right now. people have no cares for their reputation so it is a bit more like the wild west, I had a pretty good session the other night.
I got smoked by a 2 full groups roaming around griefing. So a bunch of us grouped up and started to combat them. 1 solid group 2 barbs 2 assassins and a demo. We used the demo as bait and started a war right outside a popular quest spot. But revenge was had and we drove them out of the area so we all could finish our quests.

That being said the asshole to decent person ratio is way off with no one caring about their rep and it isn’t too bad. The world is big enough where you typically don’t get camped unless you go back looking for it.

The more popular spots for people to camp are obviously the rez spots. But with so many people rezing in and out of there they are dispatched rather quickly.

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ShadeRaven wrote:
Oh, come on now, Swat.. the Brokeback Murloc & Debbie Does Murloc trade channel chatter didn't have you giddy with joy?

I'd be surprised if people went to that extent, Wired, especially in Conan. Maybe more, "Letz go getz sum ale an' rape some woomen, eh?", though.

I'm good either way... though.. I might find it easier turn off channels easier than avoid the asshat who camps me at 11pm when all I wanted to do was get a little relaxing play time in before bed.

Of course, that's probably likely to happen on either server type sooner or later.

I know I posted my primer to FFA pvp. but the closed beta is an interesting enigma right now. people have no cares for their reputation so it is a bit more like the wild west, I had a pretty good session the other night.
I got smoked by a 2 full groups roaming around griefing. So a bunch of us grouped up and started to combat them. 1 solid group 2 barbs 2 assassins and a demo. We used the demo as bait and started a war right outside a popular quest spot. But revenge was had and we drove them out of the area so we all could finish our quests.

That being said the asshole to decent person ratio is way off with no one caring about their rep and it isn’t too bad. The world is big enough where you typically don’t get camped unless you go back looking for it.

The more popular spots for people to camp are obviously the rez spots. But with so many people rezing in and out of there they are dispatched rather quickly.

Seriously guys, you are making me sad I didn't bother with the OB. Damn your fun stories, damn them all!

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A good thing that comes with AoC being so instanced is that if you find someone you dont want to deal with you can just change instances and wait for the next batch

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I am also not sure I could not Resist the urge on a RP server to start a campaign to de-throne Conan and run for King Myself.

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Being Conan wasn't such a bad deal, was it?

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I am also not sure I could not Resist the urge on a RP server to start a campaign to de-thrown Conan and run for King Myself.

I'll vote for you. If you share your women of course.

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I think a PVE server and a RP-PVP server is a great idea. There's no requirement to role play in group/guild chat, just when you're speaking in an open channel. Not a big deal, so I'm all for it. I think it would at least potentially make PVP a little more interesting and less annoying.

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I could go for that. I'd roll on both.

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I know Pigpen and I have also talked about the RP server as a promising option as far as PvP goes. I think it would be fun and give some "background" to the mindless slaughter . Anything that minimized leet speak and the d00dz is god for me. King Wired forever!

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For the pvp server selection i do have another alternative for the PvP side. One of the guilds that we used to have an alliance with in WoW were huge in Shadowbane and are getting ready to gear up for AoC. They also have another Shadowbane sister guild planning on joining the same server. They would of course also accept us as allies. So that would be 2 extra friendly guilds, and for those that have done FFA pvp know, more friends the better.

Problem is that i doubt they'd roll on a RP server after that i think we could work with them to decide on a common server. Either way majority rules. I thought i'd toss this out there as well to be considered.

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That's it, time to be decisive. We should roll on every server.

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Elliottx wrote:
That's it, time to be decisive. We should roll on every server.

Based on what I saw, there will be a limit of eight character slots, which you allocate across all servers you wish to be on.

(Unlike some other MMOs where you can have up to "X" slots on each server.)

So, if we can keep it to two servers, we can have four characters on each. (I can do teh maths.)

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DevilStick wrote:
Elliottx wrote:
That's it, time to be decisive. We should roll on every server.

Based on what I saw, there will be a limit of eight character slots, which you allocate across all servers you wish to be on.

(Unlike some other MMOs where you can have up to "X" slots on each server.)

So, if we can keep it to two servers, we can have four characters on each. (I can do teh maths.)

I believe that will be differnt at launch.
I have no basis for this other than it doesnt make sense.

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I vote Rp- PVP and a PvE server all the way.

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I certainly hope you can have more than 8 characters at launch total.

I do not understand this methodology of having 12 classes and only allowing 8 characters per account, or as in EQ2's case, 24 classes and 8 characters per account. It makes no sense at all!

It is definitely one of my major pet peeves.

Also, after becoming familiar with the game, there is no way in hell I'm playing on a pvp server of any sort. Sorry but combat is complicated enough that I don't want to deal with the added frustration of outside "influences".

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fangblackbone wrote:
I certainly hope you can have more than 8 characters at launch total.

I do not understand this methodology of having 12 classes and only allowing 8 characters per account, or as in EQ2's case, 24 classes and 8 characters per account. It makes no sense at all!

It is definitely one of my major pet peeves.

Also, after becoming familiar with the game, there is no way in hell I'm playing on a pvp server of any sort. Sorry but combat is complicated enough that I don't want to deal with the added frustration of outside "influences".

Yeah Fang but that's the fun of it. There's nothing better than getting ganked while questing and calling out for help from your guildies. There's something heartwarming about 10 of your friends beating the bejesus out of some ahole.

Besides, PvE isn't very Conanish!

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Yeah Fang but that's the fun of it. There's nothing better than getting ganked while questing and calling out for help from your guildies. There's something heartwarming about 10 of your friends beating the bejesus out of some ahole.

Besides, PvE isn't very Conanish!


Yeah, Bear, PvP sounds like a lot of fun, but there are also some drawbacks for us folk with kids, family, differing schedules. It's a bit similar to the Raiding in WoW. Some scoff at the idea, but commiting to 3 or 4 nights a week of 5 hours of non-stop play (when you add in mat gathering, consumable acquiring, early arrival prep, post run requirements) is not an easy thing to do (especially, if your spouse can't join you for whatever reason). Some people can't always play at peak times or with complete attention to the screen for hours on end.

Tonight is a good example. My daughter gets out of bed at 10:45pm and I have to step away to tuck her in, h&k, etc. Maybe 10 minutes later, I get to return to the PC to resume questing with an old friend out in LotRO. Walking away from the PC for 10+ minutes on a FFA PvP server is probably begging for trouble.

And then there's the odd times we sometimes keep here. My wife typically plays while she caffeines up in the mornings, so we have a lot of 4am to 6am gaming time. I am not sure we're going to have much support from guildies at those hours if some griefer(s) comes our way. And I am absolutely sure she'll not be in a great mood heading out the door for work if that happens. She's sold on the game and enthusiastic about having something to play again... and I don't want to see that ruined.

I'm not saying we aren't willing to give FFA PvP a try (or RP PvP).. in fact, I am sure I'll be out there myself when I can.. but it won't last for her if it turns out to be more aggravating than uplifting. Or for myself, for that matter, if late and/or early hours leave me twiddling my thumbs for lack of things to do.

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ShadeRaven wrote:

Tonight is a good example. My daughter gets out of bed at 10:45pm and I have to step away to tuck her in, h&k, etc. Maybe 10 minutes later, I get to return to the PC to resume questing with an old friend out in LotRO. Walking away from the PC for 10+ minutes on a FFA PvP server is probably begging for trouble.

If you're out in the open then just hide. Problem solved

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ShadeRaven wrote:
Yeah, Bear, PvP sounds like a lot of fun, but there are also some drawbacks for us folk with kids, family, differing schedules. It's a bit similar to the Raiding in WoW. Some scoff at the idea, but commiting to 3 or 4 nights a week of 5 hours of non-stop play (when you add in mat gathering, consumable acquiring, early arrival prep, post run requirements) is not an easy thing to do (especially, if your spouse can't join you for whatever reason). Some people can't always play at peak times or with complete attention to the screen for hours on end.

Tonight is a good example. My daughter gets out of bed at 10:45pm and I have to step away to tuck her in, h&k, etc. Maybe 10 minutes later, I get to return to the PC to resume questing with an old friend out in LotRO. Walking away from the PC for 10+ minutes on a FFA PvP server is probably begging for trouble.

And then there's the odd times we sometimes keep here. My wife typically plays while she caffeines up in the mornings, so we have a lot of 4am to 6am gaming time. I am not sure we're going to have much support from guildies at those hours if some griefer(s) comes our way. And I am absolutely sure she'll not be in a great mood heading out the door for work if that happens. She's sold on the game and enthusiastic about having something to play again... and I don't want to see that ruined.

I'm not saying we aren't willing to give FFA PvP a try (or RP PvP).. in fact, I am sure I'll be out there myself when I can.. but it won't last for her if it turns out to be more aggravating than uplifting. Or for myself, for that matter, if late and/or early hours leave me twiddling my thumbs for lack of things to do.

I hear ya Shade. I have a 9 year old son, a 3 year old daughter and a wife that doesn't play at all. Not to mention school, little league and cub scout obligations. Real life always will have to take priority but I can't imagine that PvP is going to take exponentially longer. To me it just seems that playing Conan on a non pvp server is really contrary to the storyline and whole feel of them game.

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To me it just seems that playing Conan on a non pvp server is really contrary to the storyline and whole feel of them game.

Agreed. I suppose what I hope is that Conan won't attract the worst sort of player, but too many people find too much pleasure in making others miserable. Here's hoping there's some modest inhibitors against that.

What I also don't know is if the PvE servers will offer all the cool battle keep, end game, etc., PvP stuff and all we are talking about is whether or not it's just griefers when you aren't playing PvPing you are missing out on. It'll be hard to sell PvP servers if all I can pitch is, "but, look honey, honestly, you are missing the excitement of having someone corpse camp you, gank you when you went to get that coffee, and kill you just after you managed to down a quest mob!"

If all she'll be missing out on is griefers.. yeah.. that'll be really hard to argue against.

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If you're out in the open then just hide. Problem solved

You know, my PoM has hit level 13 and still didn't have hide. Do they all get it at different levels? And does it drain stamina only when you move? Not at all?

[edit] It should be noted, too, that one aspect that makes PvP slightly less appealing is the fact that I (and my wife much more so) have no real desire to become griefers ourselves. Even the prospect of griefing the guy who just griefed us seems like a waste of quality game time. I'm more inclined to come to others' aid and bring justice down upon asshats with pleasure, but spending an hour continually beating them down just doesn't have all that much appeal.

Given the choice between ganking someone repeatedly for a while or completing some more quests and working towards the next goal/level, I'll choose the later most the time.

Ugh, I suppose I am really on the fence when it comes to the excitement and hassle involved with PvP.

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