US escalates tension with Iran, cites "evidence" of Iran supporting Taliban
Thursday, May 1st, 2008 - 8:57am
So they've got evidence but won't tell us what it is. Maybe if we guess it correctly they'll let us know? Certainly they aren't offering any answers as to why a Shiite nation is supporting a Sunni organization.
What we do know is the US is perching a few more warships and carriers on Iran's doorstep, as a "reminder."
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Gearing up for the October Surprise.
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
As for the latter part, it might be a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" kind of deal, they wipe out all the Americans then turn on each other?
"Also, I have four legs and am covered in wool. Baa!" *Legion* reveals his inner furry.
It might be, but from what I've read about the Sunni/Shiite conflict it seems more likely that philosophy would lead them to ally with us against the Sunnis.
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Which they did during the early parts of the war in Afghanistan. Much of the success of our anti-Taliban/Al Qaeda campaign depended on Iranian cooperation and intelligence. The delicious irony in all of this is that the Iranians aren't the ones who switched sides. It was us.
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
I don't know if I'd say we switched sides, but we definitely undermined the moderate Iranian leadership because they refused to be our pawn. The success of the extremist movement in Iran is largely our doing. If we'd been content to have an ally instead of a puppet things would be a lot easier for us over there right now.
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I'm actually referring to the whole backing the Taliban thing. We were squarely in their camp when they were fighting the Ruskies. The Iranians weren't much on them because they weren't much on our influence in the region. When the Saudis wrecked planes into our buildings, though, we decided to reverse course.
There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism,... those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
Oh, right, you're going further back than I.
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So, when does Gulf of Tonkin #2 happen?
If I'm not mistaken, the evidence in question was a cache of Iranian made weaponry with manufacturing dates within the last 2 months. Here is an article about a similar discovery in Iraq.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601116&sid=a2drOF5lbDcg&refer=a...
I'll try and find some more info on the Taliban related ones.
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Huh. That's pretty good evidence.
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I can't really blame them for any hostility. We acted like a schizophrenic bully and now we're paying the price.
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Min, where did you pull that "delicious irony" quote from? I'd love to see some sources on that. It makes for some great emotional cannon fodder, but I have doubts about it's veracity.
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Skimmer. That was Paleocon. Are you calling him a liar?
Emotionally charged or not, he's right. We trained the Taliban and used it as a weapon against Russia, then when we were done with it we turned our back on it.
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Hmmm... so the US was allied with Iraq, and invaded it later; and was allied with Afghanistan, and invaded it later; and was allied with Iran, and is now making threatening noises...
Since Australia has been allied with the US for a while, do we need to start worrying too?
(Yes, I'm well aware of all of the other US allies that haven't been invaded. It's a joke. Please don't invade me!)
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So, how do we know that the Iranians were "sending" the weapons? As opposed to someone selling them. Iran does export arms.
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It all began when the Taliban killed 7 Iranian diplomats back in 1998. The Taliban was also blamed for several massacres of Shiites. Iran was not too pleased and threatened war. Of course, this being pre-9/11, we didn't really care.
Just before 9/11, Iran was actively supporting Anti-Taliban forces.
Iranian presidential candidate talks about fighting the Taliban w/the USA. I also heard a story about Iranian aid on NPR, but I can't find it.
How Neocons sabotaged Iran's Help
For Iran to send even small shipments of arms to the Taliban is a big deal. My opinion is that they're just trying to keep poking the beehive so the fighting will continue. The longer the Iranians can keep us bleeding money in Iraq/Afghanistan, the stronger they get.
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Interesting links, thanks.
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