Games to just play
So I was listening to 1up Yours yesterday and they were talking about the Wii and how one of the things that's beautiful about it is that there are games for it where you just play. Just pure play. Not a big challenge. No need to hit up Gamefaqs. Just turn on the system and play in the purest sense of the word.
This resonated with me, because part of what I love about the 360 is Live. And part of why I love Live is because it's pure play. Regardless of how hardcore the game is, if I'm online with friends it's just play.
That got me thinking that I've fallen into being *too* hardcore of a gamer. Meaning I don't "just play" often enough. I think I do more than most. I goof around with games like skate and Burnout and Rock Band, but I've also fallen into the "have to finish the campaign" trap with some more "hardcore" games. When I consider new systems I often think about a PS3 and all the cool things I could play on it. Very hardcore gamer mindset.
So I guess I'd like to recalibrate myself as a gamer. Or rather as someone who likes to play games (shedding calling myself a gamer would probably be a good start). What games do you think most fit the description of games you pick up and just play? Play like when you were a kid. Doesn't matter which platform. I'm not necessarily going to buy anything, so don't panic that you're being a system buyer enabler. I'm just wondering what I'm missing out on as I roll from Call of Duty 4 to Half Life 2.
Also, analog answers are perfectly acceptable. My wife and I were talking a bit about this last night. There was a larger context to our discussion, like how I am taking things too seriously in general right now (other issues more important than gaming going on) and we realized that it's even bled into our board gaming. Every Sunday we eat dinner together and play board games or card games. That's quickly morphed from fun games of Carcassonne and Cards to very strategic and often brain-taxing games of Ticket To Ride. One again, also a great game, but I feel like we've fallen into the "hardcore" games trap.
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The Williams/Midway Collections have good titles of old arcade titles to pick up and play. They've got the older collections of games like Defender and Sinistar, racing collections with some of the Rush series and Thunder series, and two newer ones, Pinball Hall of Fame and Midway Treasures 2. Midway Treasures 2 is probably the best, with this line-up there's at least 2 or 3 to really get into, although there are some turds (Kozmik Kroozr, Pit Fighter, Wacko, Spy Hunter 2, Primal Rage).
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Arch Rivals
Championship Sprint
Cyberball
Gauntlet 2
Hard Drivin'
Kozmik Kroozr
Mortal Kombat 2
Mortal Kombat 3
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Pit Fighter
Primal Rage
Rampage World Tour
Spy Hunter 2
Total Carnage
Timber
Wacko
Wizard of Wor
Xenophobe
Xybots
(of course if you can't find the titles, there's always XBLA and MAME)
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There's the dungeon crawl hack & slash games like Gauntlet, X-men Legends, Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance, Lego: Star Wars and all of their sequels. None of them are very "hardcore" and are fun to play co-op with non-hardcore gamers. Also, I'd say almost any game released for the DS is going to designed for pick up and play and not be too OCD, except for maybe the pokemon and monster rancher types.
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I actually know where you're coming from here DSGamer, and it's why I balance my gaming between "hardcore" fare (anything with actual campaigns and such) and games that are just fun for the pure fun of it (games like Puzzle Quest, Burnout, just about anything on the Wii, whatever, that are just pure fun for the enjoyment of the experience).
You know, I actually have a more physical separation. If I'm getting a little burnt out on the hardcore video gaming, I'll usually turn to a deck of cards or a yo-yo. Something tactile to give my sensory perception a little bit of a break.
If I need a break but I'm still restless, I'll just shuffle a deck of cards over and over to keep myself occupied. I've learned how to cut and shuffle with one hand and that simple repetitive practice not only helps me cool down from the Halo's and the Rainbow Six's, but, it actually builds hand-eye coordination which will help me when I do decide to go back into the fray.
Sometimes I just don't want to look at a screen.
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That's why I said analog was fine too. I would tend to agree with this sentiment. Problem is most of my analog activities tend to be reading serious books, working out, etc. There may be an answer in here that has absolutely nothing to do with games.
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I used to play Magic the Gathering, until one expansion followed the other too quickly.
It has been a while since I touched Robo Rally, but that is a great game as well.
Love to play some poker (Texas Holdem) and some other card games.
Can't wait till my girls are old enough to play some board games. Old fashioned monopoly
and such.
I am going to be a bit more 'serious' about gaming as far as finishing a game is concerned.
Trying to stick to it, till it's done. So, after HL2, maybe Doom 3 again, then Bioshock and
then Oblivion (only need to play Shivering Isles... but what the hell, am going to start a new
character anyway).
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I always go back to 2d Mario when I get tired of modern games trying to make fire come out of their arses. When I just want to play. Sure, there were some wicked and time consuming secrets to ferret out, and some levels might be a bit of a beggar later on, but the first, third and fourth games, as well as New Super Mario Bros.
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I heard that segment on 1up Yours also and thought it was a pretty interesting discussion. It seemed to boil down to playing games to turn your brain off, relax and enjoy versus using the medium to entertain through challenging yourself (like playing chess, etc.). I think there's definitely room for both styles, though my tastes tend to fall to the latter side most times. I just like to feel like I'm accomplishing something with my games most of the time (progressing through a sp campaign for example) vs. just idly burning time with nothing to show for it (think, classic Space Invaders).
When I do want to unplug and just veg-out with games, I usually reach for XBLA titles. My favorite (mostly) "looping gameplay" titles being.
Pac-Man: Championship Edition
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Geometry Wars
Lumines Live
Swithball
Hexic HD
Luxor 2
Assault Heros
Garry's Mod and The Sims are the very definition of just playing, because there are no goals other than any you may set for yourself.
More structure pure play games are, I would say, Crackdown and Burnout: Paradise. They're the kind of games I put on when I just want to sit back, listen to some music, and just run or drive around doing whatever. This style of play even lends itself to finishing the campaigns in both of those games. For instance, in Crackdown the only thing to do is run, jump, and blow things up. Finishing the campaign requires just running, jumping, and blowing things up. And if you fail, no big deal. You just spawn at a weapons depot and continue running, jumping and blowing things up with no penalty and the option to ignore what you were trying to do earlier and simply go somewhere else to run, jump, and blow things up. It's the most relaxing and mellow over-the-top super-power-fueled explosion-filled open-world action game about killing the crap out of everything forever that I've ever played.
And if you forget about playing Burnout: Paradise like an obsessive compulsive "must do everything" gamer, it actually becomes quite enjoyable. You try a race and if you fail you just forget about it and keep driving until you stumble across something else you feel like doing. It's the most relaxing and mellow high-speed over-the-top destruction-loving arcade racing game I've ever played.
Super Smash Bros. Brawl is also perfect for this, unless you're like me and you are obsessed with collecting everything the game has to offer and beating all the Challenges. I've never been an Achievement whore on the 360, but I'm a Challenge whore in Brawl.
Finally, a classic. Tetris.
For analog activities, I usually turn to writing. But I usually do it on the computer, so it's not analog at all. Recently, much of my down-time has been occupied by coming here and posting inane one-liners.
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Lumines Live would be dreamy if the D-Pad were better and the game had licensed music like Shinin'.
That would definitely be in my rotation. I love the PSP version, but can't justify a PSP just for that. The same as I have trouble justifying a PS2 just to play the Katamari games. I wish the 360 didn't always get the gimped versions of games like that.
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wait... now you sold your PSP again? didn't you just buy another one like 3 weeks ago?
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I'm pretty sure the point of the Sims was to think up new and inventive ways of killing off the Sims...
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I didn't buy one. I was considering it, but I didn't. I bought a DS and returned it pretty promptly when the old DS thumb pain returned to remind me why I don't own a DS.
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These are my two standbys, along with many of the aforementioned XBLA games. And I do play Burnout Paradise the way you suggest. That's part of the beauty of Paradise vs. Revenge or Takedown. Paradise, for all the flaws of the open world, isn't as driven by goals, which does lend itself to just goofing around. It's part of why I haven't gone back to Revenge, in spite of the lack of a pure Crash mode.
Crackdown is one of my favorite games ever.
The Wii is tempting, though, when you see stuff like Boom Blox.
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If you mean just games that you can pick up for a few minutes or an hour, have fun, and then set down:
Rhythm games are great for this. Rock Band, Guitar Hero, That one on Steam that eludes me even though it has been one of the biggest games of the year so far...Audiosurf that's it.
These games are fun for 3 minutes, or 3 hours.
Any game where you can save anywhere. Even the most hardcore PC RPG like The Witcher or Oblivion touting 80+ hours of gameplay, you can do a quest or two in a half hour, save, and then do something else. STALKER also is good for this.
Lighter MMOs. I am renewed in my vigor for Mythos. And it may just be the early game, but I can rattle through 4 quests in a half hour, get a new piece of gear or level up. If they can keep that level of reward up, Mythos will go far. I really got fed up with WoW because the rewards once you get into your mid 60's, I quit at 66, you get very few rewards. I would play for maybe 10 hours over a few days, would not level and would not get a new piece of gear, just a few more hours on the treadmill. But 1-64, WoW has good rewards and with the new leveling, life is a lot easier for casuals.
I would put DiabloII in this category as well. Maybe an hour or so each day, you will get through 3 or 4 quests, get to a new zone, new gear, probably a level each day as well.
I would like to steer you away from puzzle or classic arcade games. These are hardcore games in disguise. Unless you want to play the same 2-3 levels in Geometry Wars or Hexic, for 20 minutes at a time, you will be pouring huge hours in to beat high scores and get further and further into the game. These are casual because of simplicity, but are designed for long sessions. Games like Tetris are designed for you to play on a 5 hour plane trip, not 5 minutes at a time.
Take a minute to get away from the noise of your problems and persistency of your routines. Just think, quietly about what you actually want. Maybe it lies outside of the scope of both digital and analog games. Maybe you two would just like to curl up on the couch and watch TV shows or go hobo-beating together. The opportunities are limitless !
I like the look of Switchball. I may pick that up tonight. In addition to other analog stuff like finding a fluff book to read instead of what I've been reading for the past 6 months. I've been reading graphic novels, dystopian literature and technical books. Hell I just got done reading Maus. That's why I think there are larger things I can probably do. I guess while I was doing those things I was also looking out for games to play that were not hardcore. Thanks for all the advice, though, and keep it coming.
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Switchball is one of the best games on XBLA that no one played, imo. Try the demo and you'll likely find yourself buying it within ten minutes. The game is so gorgeous and relaxing. It's also neat that you can play every level either timed (race for bronze, silver & gold medals) or simply run without the timer on (no penalty) so you can just relax and concentrate on puzzle solving.
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The important thing, I think, is not to force it. Do what you want to do with the time you have to yourself.
Find the things that interest you without putting too much thought in to it. Otherwise it's not really any different than what you're trying to take a break from, yes?
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Of course. Last night after contemplating this I played Half Life 2 for three hours. It was semi-mindless and fun, although technically a "hardcore" game. So I definitely know what you mean. I was just putting feelers out there for games to continue enjoying my hobby, but to take a break once in a while from hardcore games.
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I had a similar experience with Okami yesterday. I found myself just enjoying the game. I wasn't thinking too much about it, but just relaxing and taking it all in.
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I could use something like this myself, haven't quite the motivation needed for something more complex at the moment.
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DS - it's funny you mention HL2. I recently completed HL2 and EP1 & 2 on 360 Orange Box (my first experience with the series). I enjoyed it immensely and was continually impressed with how little frustration the game presented me. There were certainly some challenging sections but overall I found it didn't take me beating my head against a wall to feel like I was continually making progress (which explains why I actually finished it). It seems like a unique example of a "relaxing" hardcore style game.
I compare that experience with my feeling last night as I revisited Overlord. I've been meaning to finish the game for a sense of completeness and after 45 minutes was immensely frustrated due to some annoying control issues and just getting "stuck" in a tough section of the game. I realized it just wasn't fun so I stopped and played a game of Catan - not mindless but solid fun with little frustration.
I constantly have to remind myself to check the "fun meter" as I play and put away stuff that's getting frustrating.
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I still pick up Quake 3 from time-to-time for a bit of a bot deathmatch, or if I want something more recent, I'll do the same with UT2k4 or free-and-open-source shooters like Nexuiz. In my younger, PC-only days, that was almost exclusively how I played FPS games -- I never went online, though I did LAN a bit, and the single-player campaigns never grabbed me. I couldn't tell you how much time I spent railing Eraser bots on The Edge, though. I don't think I actually finished a "PC" FPS until I picked up BioShock on the 360.
Other favourites include the Civ games: Civ 4 is great fun to just pick up and play, and on the easier levels I find it very relaxing, just playing to build a nice empire and peacefully co-exist with the AI players. Almost as good is Freeciv, which is open-source and will run on just about anything. Shooters are a good option, too -- Ikaruga on XBLA is an absolute bargain, as is Rez HD.
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