Word of Warning for Parents Posting Pics
My wife recently posted some photos of us with our eight-month-old baby daughter on our flickr account. One of them was of her getting her diapey changed on a park bench, and in the title of the photo she used the word "diaper." flickr shows how many views your pictures have gotten, and of the other dozen or so she'd posted along with this latest batch, none had more than 5 or 6. Except the one with the word "diaper." That one had nearly fifty. As troubling as the implications are, the most probable explanation I can come up with is that a bunch of perverts are cruising picture sites keying on words that are likely to yield photos of naked children/babies. Maybe I'm just being a paranoid new dad, but I can't seem to come up with another sensible explanation for the discrepancy in views.
None of the pictures, including the diapey one, actually showed any nudity--nor will they now that I know about this. Thank God my wife pointed it out to me, after realizing that she'd seen the same thing happen once before on another pic with the word "diaper" in the title. She changed both immediately, of course.
For us, setting the account to private isn't an option, what with the scores of family members from both sides who want to be able to easily find our daughters pics. But you can be sure we won't be posting anything that could be personally identifiable, we'll use more discretion in selecting titles, and we'll be more selective with the subject of our pictures in the future.
I hope I'm wrong about this. Just the thought of something looking at my baby daughter for those types of reasons makes me want to kill.
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What the f*ck, man.
You know, I've actually thought about this before - all those baby commercials with the naked baby could be jerkin' fodder for pedophiles, can't they?
I've always thought babies shouldn't be shown like that on TV... I mean, at least let them be 18 so they can choose.
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This is why I'm always hesitant to post any picture of my nephews. Sick, sick people.
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I'd never really thought that about baby commercials before, but now I'd be forced to agree.
Damn, dude, it's just so wrong. No one was hurt but I still feel violated somehow. I just thank God you couldn't actually see anything in those pictures.
I don't blame you dhelor for not wanting to post those pictures. What pisses me off is that it's necessary to even worry about something that should be totally innocent fun.
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You can post images privately.
If it's that big a deal, and there's only six views on most of your pictures I'd just make them private or email them to a list of friends and family. I'm sure there are hordes of people out there who do nothing but troll through Flikr and other image sites looking for fodder for their nefarious purposes.
Or, you know, people looking for information on which diapers to buy.
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Yeah, it's that big a deal.
Also, not looking for any tips, but thanks. I was more interested in warning any other parents, who, like me, probably couldn't have conceived that putting the word "diaper" in the title of a picture could put you on the radar of every creep on the web.
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The world just gets worse.
There's a 7 year old girl on our street whose mother just leaves her to her own devices, so she spends the day wandering around talking to anyone who'll listen. There is no father in the picture, and the one time I went to the house, her teenaged brother answered the door with a joint in his hand.
She is clearly starved of any kind of attention or affection, but I have had to stop speaking to her at all as I am so worried about the perception.
It disgusts and saddens me that such a tiny minority of people in this world have made it so that you can't speak to a kid, or put pictures of your own kids anywhere public without fear.
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Yeah, I think every neighborhood has at least one kid like that. If you have kids of your own then it's probably not as big of a deal to show them kindness, but if you're by yourself then most people will tend to assume the worst.
The problem is, you can't hardly blame them anymore. The worst is a pretty safe bet.
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So true.
When a month ago my co-worker brought his 10 year old to work again and the 10 year old proceeded to try and kick me repeatedly in the crotch, I caught a lot of strange looks when he was writhing on the floor trying to get out of a standing armlock.
Those damn perverts, ruining the fun for everyone else.
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That's f*cked up, little bastard should be thrown to the ants.
As for the diaper searches, unfortunately, there are lots of f*cked people out there. There space is reserved.
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I hate to say it man, but this really isn't that big of a surprise to me. I know I've seen bars on TV where you can pay to be dressed up like a baby and get the whole S&M treatment. I think theres one near me. I seem to remember the radio station doing a bit where they went to one of these places.
My general rule of thumb when posting anything to the internet is don't post anything publicly that you wouldn't want someone wanking to.
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You're right, man. And in hindsight it seems like an obvious call. But I now that I have a baby, I see them as the personification of everything innocent and good. I guess I just have a blindspot where stuff like this is concerned.
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Yeah... the radio station...
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Yeah... You know, once you upload anything to most popular websites(Facebook, Myspace, flickr, Gmail, etc), they keep it forever. Even if you "delete it", they still have an archive of it.
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I wish I could say I'm surprised. I've had the unfortunate opportunity of working numerous online child exploitation investigations. Seemingly innocent images of children frequently find their way into the hands of the wrong sorts of people, and within the wrong types of online communities.
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I searching for the term diaper really an automatic pervert alert? There are times when I am looking for an image to use, and I will use all kinds of terms just to see what pops up. If you are creeped out, put the pics on private, but I wouldn't spend much time thinking that creeps are looking at your pics.
edit: Maybe you are right. I searched for the term diaper and Certis and found this:

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If the kid is wearing a diaper on his cranium, does that make him a sh*t head?
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Isn't a more likely explanation that a) one of the 5 or 6 people that viewed your other pictures looked at the "diaper" picture of your girl, thought it was cute, and sent it to their friends or family? or b) an ex-girlfriend of yours or old friend was trolling your public photo album and chose that picture, of all the ones available, to send to her friends (as in, "look what's up with locdog! He has babies now!", etc.), or even c) people you don't know had been searching for pictures of diapers, or children in diapers, to use for innocent purposes (like a LOLBaby or photoshop joke) rather than for nefarious purposes?
Not that I don't appreciate and support 100% your protectiveness over your little girl. It just seems a bit of a leap to automatically assume that you have 50 hits rather than 5 on that one picture because a bunch of pervs are seeking out your baby.
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I'm also inclined to assume the worst here tbh, even as a committed non-parent.
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I'd just assume it was diaper fetishists looking for pictures of other diaper-wearing adult fetishists. Creepy, but harmless.
In any case, the chance of your children being harmed/stalked/etc. by a stranger are approximately one in a bazillion. Given what my wife saw working for social services, I'd worry much more about any family/friends/neighbors/babysitters/etc. that had unmonitored access to her.
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Maybe I won't understand this till I've got my own kids, but... what's the harm if people like to look at your kid? Yeah they're messed up in the head but as long as they aren't trying to contact you (or your kid?) it doesn't really hurt anybody, does it? It's not like this is kiddie porn you're producing. Just seems to me if we all walked around worrying about who had what thoughts about what we'd all have to wear burqas.
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I am not sure that what you are saying, is the case here. Diaper is a very generic word. Then again, of course it would
or could be a keyword that pervs use to find whatever makes them happy.
Lobster, just the thought a perv could think of your kid that way... really, no parent wants that.
And pervs will look up kids if they can. I imagine it is not that difficult to figure out where ppl live.
So the less there is out there for them, the better.
Maybe Flickr should log the ip of the viewers, just in case.
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Just in case? What about privacy? Besides, gutteral reaction to pedophilia aside, anyone know any figures on how many people look at a picture of someone's baby online, thinks, "I really gotta git me some of that," and actually tracks the kid down? If anyone did that you'd think porn stars would need 24/7 armed protection.
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I finally got a pro account and have been uploading all my pics. What's funny is that I'm uploading completely untagged pictures, but people still find the suggestive ones. There are some pics of my wife in a bikini on our honeymoon, and that's been viewed by 25 people. I haven't sent out any notices to friends and family about the pics being up, so I assume its strangers that are just watching the photostream of everything people are uploading. Not that I'm freaking out about that, its an interesting phenomenon.
And no, I'm not going to link to the picture of my wife in a bikini, you pervs
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