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NASA has calculated that there's a 1 in 45,000 chance of the 200 billion tonne asteroid Apophis hitting earth in 2029. If it doesn't, there's a 1 in 450 chance it'll hit enough debris as to change its trajectory to hit earth on its next pass in 2036. This latter figure was determined by a German 13-year-old. NASA, you fail.

My question is, what are the chances it'll hit us in 2043?

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I feel statistically dead already.

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I hope they can narrow down the date a little bit more. I'd like to schedule all of my vacation time before it hits. It's "use 'em or lose 'em," you know.

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See, if Gore had won, we'd already have some sort of cosmic repulsor ray that ran on everyone's hopes and dreams.

Or, you know, maybe a few federal contingency plans for saving the goddamned planet!

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Don't forget about 2012. It's a virtual who's who of apocalypses. You got the reversal of solar magnetic poles, Mayan end times, and a 13 km. wide asteroid passing through the neighborhood.

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Eh, I'll deal with it later.

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VicD714 wrote:
Don't forget about 2012. It's a virtual who's who of apocalypses. You got the reversal of solar magnetic poles, Mayan end times, and a 13 km. wide asteroid passing through the neighborhood.

Yep, I'd be happy if we make it through 2012 in tact!

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Chiggie Von Richthofen wrote:
See, if Gore had won, we'd already have some sort of cosmic repulsor ray that ran on everyone's hopes and dreams.

Or, you know, maybe a few federal contingency plans for saving the goddamned planet!


He's totally serial. The cosmic repulsor ray is vital, if we're going to stop Manbearpig!

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Didn't SG-1 take care of Apophis already?

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NASA wrote:
[The asteroid will pass] within the distance of Earth's geosynchronous satellites. However, because Apophis will pass interior to the positions of these satellites at closest approach, in a plane inclined at 40 degrees to the Earth's equator and passing outside the equatorial geosynchronous zone when crossing the equatorial plane, it does not threaten the satellites in that heavily populated region.

I am not relieved.

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Both NASA and Marquardt agree that if the asteroid does collide with earth, it will create a ball of iron and iridium 320 metres (1049 feet) wide and weighing 200 billion tonnes, which will crash into the Atlantic Ocean.

Hm. They can't be sure if it will hit the Earth, but they can be absolutely certain it will land in the Atlantic?

And it's only the collision that miraculously creates a ball of iron and iridium? What's the asteroid made of now, lollipops and cotton candy?

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I think they mean the heat from entry into the atmosphere would create a ball of that composition.

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Didn't SG-1 take care of Apophis already?

Not after he came back several times to screw with them first.

Quintin_Stone wrote:
And it's only the collision that miraculously creates a ball of iron and iridium? What's the asteroid made of now, lollipops and cotton candy?

One would assume that it contains the component ions to create iron and iridium once heated through atmospheric friction then cooled by splashdown in the Atlantic Ocean. Duh.

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Elysium wrote:
NASA wrote:
[The asteroid will pass] within the distance of Earth's geosynchronous satellites. However, because Apophis will pass interior to the positions of these satellites at closest approach, in a plane inclined at 40 degrees to the Earth's equator and passing outside the equatorial geosynchronous zone when crossing the equatorial plane, it does not threaten the satellites in that heavily populated region.

I am not relieved.

I don't quite understand this.

O = Earth . = satellites o = asteroid

Now: O . o

Then: Oo.

After: O . o

How does the asteroid get from Now -> Then -> After without the chance of hitting satellites?

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Chiggie Von Richthofen wrote:
I think they mean the heat from entry into the atmosphere would create a ball of that composition.

So it is made of lollipops and cotton candy? If we send a shuttle to it, can we set up a mining colony? Mmmm, freshly mined cotton candy.

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[The asteroid will pass] within the distance of Earth's geosynchronous satellites. However, because Apophis will pass interior to the positions of these satellites at closest approach, in a plane inclined at 40 degrees to the Earth's equator and passing outside the equatorial geosynchronous zone when crossing the equatorial plane, it does not threaten the satellites in that heavily populated region.

I have a hard time visualizing this, but do I understand correctly that if the asteroid's path were shifted downward (with respect to the Equator, then it would collide?

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NASA wrote:
[The asteroid will pass] within the distance of Earth's geosynchronous satellites. However, because Apophis will pass interior to the positions of these satellites at closest approach, in a plane inclined at 40 degrees to the Earth's equator and passing outside the equatorial geosynchronous zone when crossing the equatorial plane, it does not threaten the satellites in that heavily populated region.

I am not relieved.


A bit reminiscent of Major League and the "too high" comment, eh?

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kaostheory wrote:
Elysium wrote:
NASA wrote:
[The asteroid will pass] within the distance of Earth's geosynchronous satellites. However, because Apophis will pass interior to the positions of these satellites at closest approach, in a plane inclined at 40 degrees to the Earth's equator and passing outside the equatorial geosynchronous zone when crossing the equatorial plane, it does not threaten the satellites in that heavily populated region.

I am not relieved.

I don't quite understand this.

O = Earth . = satellites o = asteroid

Now: O . o

Then: Oo.

After: O . o

How does the asteroid get from Now -> Then -> After without the chance of hitting satellites?

It sounded like they said that it would pass through a realm of space that is not considered a high population area for satellites. I think it's still a "probably won't happen" scenario instead of a definite.

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If we get an official release date of Spring 2030 for Duke Nukem Forever, then we'll know we are all truly doomed....

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kaostheory wrote:
Elysium wrote:
NASA wrote:
[The asteroid will pass] within the distance of Earth's geosynchronous satellites. However, because Apophis will pass interior to the positions of these satellites at closest approach, in a plane inclined at 40 degrees to the Earth's equator and passing outside the equatorial geosynchronous zone when crossing the equatorial plane, it does not threaten the satellites in that heavily populated region.

I am not relieved.

I don't quite understand this.

O = Earth . = satellites o = asteroid

Now: O . o

Then: Oo.

After: O . o

How does the asteroid get from Now -> Then -> After without the chance of hitting satellites?

Because you're trying to smush a 3d universe into a 2d illustration. The o's could be sitting around the equator and this bad boy goes over the North Pole.

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kaostheory wrote:

I don't quite understand this.

O = Earth . = satellites o = asteroid

Now: O . o

Then: Oo.

After: O . o

How does the asteroid get from Now -> Then -> After without the chance of hitting satellites?

Because even though that region is "heavily populated" with satellites it's still mostly just empty space. The size scale changes when talking about outer space- a "close call" goes from a matter of meters to a matter of millions of kilometers.

It's all well and good until someone loses a torso.

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kaostheory wrote:
Elysium wrote:
NASA wrote:
[The asteroid will pass] within the distance of Earth's geosynchronous satellites. However, because Apophis will pass interior to the positions of these satellites at closest approach, in a plane inclined at 40 degrees to the Earth's equator and passing outside the equatorial geosynchronous zone when crossing the equatorial plane, it does not threaten the satellites in that heavily populated region.

I am not relieved.

I don't quite understand this.

O = Earth . = satellites o = asteroid

Now: O . o

Then: Oo.

After: O . o

How does the asteroid get from Now -> Then -> After without the chance of hitting satellites?

Geosynchronous satellites orbit at about 22,000 miles and are typically strung out along the equator because it gives them maximum coverage (who wants to stare at the poles?). So the asteroid will be farther out than 22,000 miles as it crosses the equator, but then dip closer to Earth as it passes above (or below, depending upon its approach) the equator. Since it will be farther out than 22,000 miles at the equator, it will miss all the satellites hanging out there. It will finish passing Earth closer than 22,000 miles, but since it won't be the same orbital plane as the geosynchronous satellites, it won't hit anything on its way out.

Besides, there's only a couple of hundred geosynchronous satellites out there anyway and a lot of empty space.

Still, having an asteroid passing within 22,000 miles of the Earth is the equivalent of having someone shoot at your head and miss by less than a foot.

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kaostheory wrote:
O = Earth . = satellites o = asteroid

Now: O . o

Then: Oo.

After: O . o

How does the asteroid get from Now -> Then -> After without the chance of hitting satellites?

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As for crashing into the Atlantic, that's an easy call for something that size (unlike orbiting spacecraft not under flight control). Just look at the date and time it'll be in the area, then figure out which part of the Earth is facing into it's path. If it does hit around that particular time, it'll be in that part of the Earth, which they've determined will be the Atlantic.

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Alien13z wrote:

Because you're trying to smush a 3d universe into a 2d illustration. The o's could be sitting around the equator and this bad boy goes over the North Pole.

Doesn't this setup some sort of Thundarr the Barbarian scenario where the asteroid steals our atomosphere or somesuch?

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So looks like 2029 will be the year of dinosaur themed parties. Here is the wiki info on Apophis.

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Oh boy, how I look forward to the end of the world. It would be so awesome if this asteroid hit the earth. I'd be sitting on a balcony with a drink and some snacks rocking out to music while watching the apocalypse.
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