How to Quit Smoking Effectively

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dhelor's picture
Location: Oregon

Preface: I, myself, have never smoked a day in my life, but I want to help my mom quit.

Both of my parents had been smoking since at least before my older sister was born (1980). My father was able to quit about a year and a half ago when he had a bad bout of pleurisy which forced him to be bedridden for something like 3-4 days. He avoided the major withdrawal symptoms because the pleurisy was just that much more intense. When he finally got over the pleurisy, he still had minor cravings, but was able to suppress them and has been able to stay away from the cancer stick ever since.

My mother, however, has not been as "lucky" as my dad to have had an illness to counteract the withdrawals. Over the years, she's tried hypnosis, which didn't work. She has really bad teeth, so nicotine gum is a no go as well. She's also tried nicotine patches, but they irritate her skin. The only other conventional choice she hasn't tried is the nicotine inhaler, which they can't really afford. She has been slowing cutting down on the amount she smokes, and by now I believe she's down to a little less than a pack per day (she was, at one point, smoking over two packs every day).

I'm sure there are people on here who have successfully quit by other means, know people who have, or know of some way that might work. She's always talking about how she probably won't live that much longer (though, of course, she's been saying that since I was in elementary school), and I really want to do something to help her get this monkey off her back.

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I quit cold turkey, with the patch, and with Zyban (an anti-depressant rebranded as quitting aid). Ultimately the patch worked, although I think it was because I was more motivated when I used it, and no longer in college. It irritated my skin a little bit, but it wasn't that bad. This was after smoking a pack a day for about 7 years.

A little googling indicates that a nicotine inhaler runs about $40-50. Even if cigarettes have stayed the same price since I quit, that's still only 10 days at a pack a day. Quitting is well worth the money, and will pay for itself very quickly.

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Gumbie's picture
Location: Tennessee

Chantix.

I tried alot of stuff and nothing even compares to this. To be fair I did go back to smoking after 3 months but it was only because I stopped taking it and really didn't want to quit. If she really wants to quit the Chantix will work great. Be warned though, its expensive ($100) and most insurances don't cover it.

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Cut off your hands and face! I'm not sure how this will help your mom quit smoking but you should shut up and do what I say!

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Pure motivation. When I was getting married it turned out my fiance was horribly allergic to smoke. It was quit tobacco or quit her.

Prior to that I had tried to quit on three separate occassions. I guess I just needed the right reason.

I still enjoy the occassional overpriced cigar with my Dad, but that's probably been over a year since we last did that even.

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First thing your mom has to do is decide whether she really wants to quit or not. Lots of people feel they should quit but don't really want to stop smoking, so they try lots of different methods but nothing ever sticks.

I smoked for maybe 15 years before stopping, but I don't remember being too bothered the physical aspects of nicotine withdrawal. The bigger issue is willpower, and willpower comes from the desire to stop smoking.

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Location: Oregon

Probably should have mentioned this, but she has a very pronounced gag reflex, so pills, unless really small (aspirin sized or thereabouts) can be a bit of a problem.

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I am currently using Chantix, and it runs about $100 a month, or about the same as a pack a a day for a month. The pills are extremely small, (about half the size of a tic-tac or pez candy).

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Location: Tennessee

Oh I forgot to add...if she does get on Chantix...it will give her some crazy ass dreams. Seriously.

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The closest I've come is using the book Quit Smoking the Easy Way (or something about quitting and smoking and "The Easy Way"). I'm going to have another stab at it. It's too expensive, too unhealthy, and I'm starting a new job, and I've got a vacation in less than a month in Florida where there are no smoking areas.

Wish me luck.

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I'll echo what some others have already said; there are plenty of aids to quitting available, and all work to some degree or another, but the key requirement is that she has to be 100% ready to quit.

It took me five tries to quit, and it was because I didn't really want to quit the first four times. The motivation is the key factor and without it, none of the aids will help.

That said, if she's ready to be done smoking, then go with the Zyban or Chantix. I used Zyban and it helped me a lot. Chantix wasn't available back when I quit for good.

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Funkenpants wrote:
First thing your mom has to do is decide whether she really wants to quit or not. Lots of people feel they should quit but don't really want to stop smoking, so they try lots of different methods but nothing ever sticks.

I smoked for maybe 15 years before stopping, but I don't remember being too bothered the physical aspects of nicotine withdrawal. The bigger issue is willpower, and willpower comes from the desire to stop smoking.

Funken, nailed it pretty well. All of the people I know, who have managed to quit, eventually did so by going cold-turkey. Almost all of them tried some kind of stop-smoking aid that didn't work, and in the end, it was plain old willpower, that got them through it. LIke Funken, said the smoker has to truly want to quit or it will simply not work.

As for myself, I'm firmly in the no willpower category. I've tried to quit at least a half dozen times with no luck. That includes attempts with nicotine gum, the patch, Wellbutrin (anti-depressant turned quit smoking aid), and cold turkey. I wish your mom all the luck in the world. Nicotine is truly a nasty, and insidious addiction to break.

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I want to echo those that said that motivation is key. You have to really want to quit. Otherwise, it will fail. I quit cold turkey shortly after our first child was born. I wanted to be around to watch her grow up. It was probably a little easier for me because I was, at most, a half a pack a day smoker. It was still difficult, though. However, it was one of the best decisions I have ever made.

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She's also tried nicotine patches, but they irritate my her skin.

Are we really talking about your mother here?

Anyway, I'm not sure what I can add to this. I've never smoked, and I got my wife to quit by buying her the puppy she wanted. Maltese are prone to really bad allergies, so now she can't smoke, or else it hurts the dog.

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I agree with everyone. And that's difficult sometimes.

Internal motivation is the key. With that, you find what you need to quit. For me, it was the patch, carrot juice, exercise and miniature painting.

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I was forced to quit due to medical reasons (my micro-preemie daughter's) and that was probably the only reason I was able to do it. Smoking again simply was not an option. I used the patch and Welbutrin, both of which helped but the main ingredient has to be desire. If she has any doubts that she will be successful, she will most likely fail.

Also, not to be harsh, but it sounds like there are a lot of excuses in there as to the various aids available. It's not an easy thing to do, there will be hardships.

On the bright side, the physical withdrawal doesn't last long at all, a couple of days at most. I only tried to kill 2 people and one of them probably deserved it.

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How about showing her a picture of her lung and compare it to a healthy lung? (Not picture or video from TV or online somewhere, but take her to a doctor and let the doctor show her) That should give her the motivation that she needed.

My dad quit his 40 years of smoking after a car accident that almost killed him. Some of his rib bones broke and pierced his lung. The doctor went to my dad while he was recovering in the hospital with a picture of his lung, and showed him how bad of a condition it is in, so bad, in fact, that if he continued to smoke, after the accident, he will kill himself...

That made him quit cold turkey real fast.

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VicD714 wrote:
Funkenpants wrote:
First thing your mom has to do is decide whether she really wants to quit or not. Lots of people feel they should quit but don't really want to stop smoking, so they try lots of different methods but nothing ever sticks.

I smoked for maybe 15 years before stopping, but I don't remember being too bothered the physical aspects of nicotine withdrawal. The bigger issue is willpower, and willpower comes from the desire to stop smoking.

Funken, nailed it pretty well. All of the people I know, who have managed to quit, eventually did so by going cold-turkey. Almost all of them tried some kind of stop-smoking aid that didn't work, and in the end, it was plain old willpower, that got them through it. LIke Funken, said the smoker has to truly want to quit or it will simply not work.


Amen brothers. Every drug and aid out there is a gimmick. I like to make a distinction between people who no longer smoke. Some have trully quit smoking, but most merely stopped smoking. A person who trully quit will never be heard uttering lines like: "oh man, a smoke would be so nice right now." Stoppers on the other hand will most likely go back to smoking a year or two later.

The only way to quit is to wake up one morning and know you will never smoke again in your life. No drugs. No aids. No maybes. No conditions. No deadlines. No change of habits or daily routines. No excuses. Just quit!

If I sound a bit passionate about this, is because I am. To this day I claim that smoking was the worst thing that has happened to me in my life and would love to see it completely banned. I also quit 3 packs a a day habit by waking up one morning and knowing that I will never touch it again in my life.

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Funken and Serengeti nailed it: she has to want to quit deep down in her bones. If she hasn't figured that out for herself yet, then all the smoking cessation products in the world aren't going to help.

I had a similar habit to your mom, about two packs a day for nineteen years. I had quit a couple of times before, but I was always smoking again after a couple of months. Why? Because as strange as it sounds, I honestly believed smoking was part of who I was and I wasn't being "true" to myself by quitting.

Nicotine's a hell of a drug...

My breaking point was something so mundane I'm almost embarrassed to mention it. I was taking some clothes to the dry cleaners and as I took them out of the laundry bag the smell of cigarettes filled the air. That was it. I knew right then that I had to stop. My decision had nothing to do with the fact that I was paying RJR to slowly kill myself or that I couldn't walk up a flight of stairs without getting winded. It was that I felt disgusted with myself because I constantly reeked of smoke.

Your mom needs to reach her own breaking point and only she's going to know what it is. I'd wager that all the things you mentioned--the patch irritates her skin, she can't swallow pills, she can't chew gum, she can't afford the inhaler--are all just convenient excuses for your mom. They give her a reason to keep on smoking while making you feel good that she at least tried to stop. When she reaches the point that she really wanted to quit, she'll do whatever it takes to get clean.

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MoonDragon wrote:

Amen brothers. Every drug and aid out there is a gimmick.

I wouldn't go that far. I used the gum to ease my way through the first couple of weeks. Much better than going cold-turkey and feeling like there's fire ants crawling through your veins.

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Gumbie wrote:
Oh I forgot to add...if she does get on Chantix...it will give her some crazy ass dreams. Seriously.

She used to do marijuana when she was a teenager, I'm sure that would just be old hat for her.

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She's also tried nicotine patches, but they irritate my her skin.

I originally had it phrased "my mother's skin," but changed it. Guess I missed part of it.

I'll have her check into this Chantix stuff, sounds like it might be the best option.

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Rub her face in an ashtray and beat her with a carton of marlboros.

Oh, and you gotta wanna quit. Willpower, determination, and honest desire.
Worked for me. Cold Turkey. I've relapsed a couple of times, which were conscious decisions because I realized I didn't WANT to be a non-smoker anymore at those points. I didn't beat myself up because of it. (as said above, just like any addiction: you don't "quit"... you stop doing it. And keep not doing it. Once a smoker, always a smoker. Even if you're a smoker in remission.) So after 2 years of not smoking I started going to bars and smoking for a few months. Then I remembered how nice it was to not smell like that... and haven't looked back since. I may find a reason to smoke again someday... and as a calculated risk I'm okay with that potential outcome, but right now I don't see it and I prefer not to.

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OG_slinger wrote:
MoonDragon wrote:

Amen brothers. Every drug and aid out there is a gimmick.

I wouldn't go that far. I used the gum to ease my way through the first couple of weeks. Much better than going cold-turkey and feeling like there's fire ants crawling through your veins.

I didn't have any physical ill-effects after going cold turkey from 3 packs a day. But every single night for about 3 months I woke up in cold sweat because I had a dream where I lit a cig and took a drag. Then one night I woke up from a dream, but in that dream I picked up a cig, went to light it, but then stopped, asked myself why, and dropped it. It was then I knew I was quit!

From personal experience, I believe that nicotine isn't really the problem. It's the habit. The chemical dependences we associate with other habits. So things like having a coffee, drink, after sex, etc. I guess I was lucky I smoked as much as I did so I never associated cigarettes with anything in specific. So when I cut them out of my life I had no specific triggers to keep bringing up the habitual cravings.

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(as said above, just like any addiction: you don't "quit"... you stop doing it. And keep not doing it. Once a smoker, always a smoker. Even if you're a smoker in remission.)

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MoonDragon wrote:
Tee-hee... spoken like a true stopper. You non-quitter!

Spoken like a true quitter. Didn't your mommy ever tell you to 'Never say never?' Someday they're gonna invent a vaccine for cancer... and it'll be in the form of a cigarette. Won't you quitters feel foolish!

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dhelor wrote:
Gumbie wrote:
Oh I forgot to add...if she does get on Chantix...it will give her some crazy ass dreams. Seriously.

She used to do marijuana when she was a teenager, I'm sure that would just be old hat for her.

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She's also tried nicotine patches, but they irritate my her skin.

I originally had it phrased "my mother's skin," but changed it. Guess I missed part of it.

I'll have her check into this Chantix stuff, sounds like it might be the best option.

Chantix works different than most aids/pills. Instead of supplying your body with small amounts of nicotine like a patch, it actually blocks off the receptors in your brain that make you think smoking is good. You have to take it for a week to get it in your system, than you quit. On the 7th day of taking it I went outside to smoke, got halfway through my cigarette and noticed I wasn't getting any enjoyment at all from it so I trashed it. Quit for 3 months, something traumatic happened in my life and got right back on them. Getting ready to start Chantix again, except this time though I really want to quit.

Like the others said, she has to really want to quit. The Chantix is a great help, but if the will to stop isn't there, than she won't quit.

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Man, he's so awesome. I still love Dick.

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I've attempted to quit on several occasions. Cold turkey seemed the best way, maybe tempered with some sort of nicotine supplement for the really tough moments (lozenge or gum). The last time it was much easier because I had a "quit buddy", someone who quit at the same time. It gave me someone to share the tough moments with and it also gave me a good reason to stay clean: I didn't want to let them down, knowing that if I started back up, they probably would, too. It was a great motivator.

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Chantix worked for me. I took it for two months and haven't smoked in 1.25 years now.

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Okay, so el madre says a big "nuh-uh" on the Chantix dealy. Apparently, she claims a number of people have died because of taking it or something. Whether anybody has or not, there's no sense arguing with her on it - when she's got a thought in her head, it's usually impossible to get it out (I'm still trying to get it through her head that Barack Obama wasn't sworn in on the Qu'ran).

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My pro-tips. Been sober for over 2 years now. This is the only time I've quit where it's stuck.

* Do not under any circumstance hang around your friends who smoke until you've kicked the habit. Do not go to the bars, PERIOD. It is harsh, but you MUST drop your smoking buddies unless they decide to quit with you. It's a HUGE lifestyle change, but it's either that or the Grim Reaper 5-10 years early.

* Do not even thing about the weight you might gain. Weight gained can be exercised off, your lungs can't be exercised healthy. You might get fat. But at least you can breath, and not wake up in the morning coughing out brown phlegm.

* Get a damn hobby and fast. Focus all your attention into it. Never be idle.

* Chew gum. Nicotine gum helped more than anything else I did. Eat sunflower seeds. Do things with your hands and get something to fidget with.

Most importantly..

* Do not use the stress excuse to have a drag. Everyone encounters stress on a daily basis. You are not special, it is no reason to light one up. Other people cope with stress just fine without nicotine, and you'd be surprised how well you cope when you remove that damn mental block associating stress = cigarette.

* You really, really have to want to quit. Don't take the defeatist attitude of "well, i'll give it a try. JUST DO IT. Don't use any form of reasoning, just STOP. If you aren't mentally at the 100% willing to quit mark, you will not make it. You MUST have the desire!

So yeah, it ain't easy. It's a major lifestyle and health change. All sorts of chemical and psychological hooks into your everyday life. But man, once you quit, you never feel better. Best of luck to your parents!

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Hah, maybe I should tell her to play Pokemon!

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