The Indispensable Cooking Thread
After all the love Elysium has received in the thread that motivated this one (may his breakfasts remain tasty and popular) it looks like GWJ is in need of a place where we, who love to prance around in the kitchen, can share our manly and butch recipes. Any recipe you are proud of in particular? Do you slaughter cows for your steaks by yourself? Did you receive supersharp Japanese blade of +2 slicing and dicing from your cooking guru? Anything pertaining to kitchen, cuisine and purveying comestibles is welcome.
To start off, I recently won the unofficial award for Best. Lasagna. Ever. among my friends with Bolognese ragu from this recipe. The lasagna were spinach ones, so when making bechamel, I mixed it with fresh spinach and separated layers of ragu and bechamel with parmigiano cheese. Even I was satisfied, and I'm usually quite critical about my cooking.
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I'm not sure if it survived the new site, but we had an interlinked set of pages for recipes on here. Lots of amazing stuff, and the first post was wiki-style editable. Let me see if I can track it down...
Edit: http://www.gamerswithjobs.com/node/16130
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My wife picked up a book some time ago, "Top Secret Restaurant Recipes", with a ton of recipes for creating home-made clones of popular restaurant food.
Now the guy has a second book and a website.
Anyone tried any of these? I'm eager to give his Little Caesar's Crazy Bread a shot.
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That seems kind of weird. Typically when I'm cooking my intent is to have something that's better then the usual processed mystery slurry you get from chain restaurants. I guess I don't understand why I'd try and emulate an Applebee's recipe at home when I could be trying to emulate something from a decent restaurant or chef.
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ahh its all about making crap up as you cook!
Take chicken breast and let soak in lemon water with rosemarry overnight then grill and sprinkle with fresh rosemarry... SO GOOD!
Best with garlic bread
Also for the cheap mak pizza bread
1 french bread loaf cut in half, fill with fresh garlic, spagetti sauce (chunky or add tomatoes) fresh mazarella cheese and small amount of feta. Chuck in pepperoini and toss in the oven for 10-15 mins. Then EAT with SMILES!
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Pharacon, making recipes up on the fly is the best kind of cooking in my book.
Let's see: If you have an old parmigiano cheese in the fridge (the really hard one), just go and buy a leek. Throw it onto olive oil and let it fry until it lets out juice, you can salt it a little to help it. Pour in some water and put in the hardened pieces of cheese. Let it simmer. When the leek is to your liking, you can thicken the soup whichever way you prefer/have ingredients for: make up gnocchi from flour and water, just add flour or mix in one or two eggs. Cheap, tasty and you can almost smell the Mediterranean Sea from your kitchen table. If you don't like leeks, replace them with e.g. carrots. Or peas. Or even lentils. Or put every leftover vegetable in and voila - minestrone.
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Cooking is like jazz...it's best went you improvise.
Maybe for you. When I improvise things tend to get a little weird. I am slowly getting better.
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Making something that tastes like a chain restaurant's food would be a massive achievement for me. Their food almost always tastes really good to us. Then again, I tend to pick "Mushroom Swiss Burger" or "Sliced barbeque pork" from the menu rather than the "mystery slurry" option, tempting though it might be.
Is there anyone else whose experience with recipes involving more than 5 ingredients, or techniques more complex than "bake/fry/grill at X degrees for Y minutes", with symptoms that resemble Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome? "Oh, god, the roux... not the roux... not again..." (dissolving into indiscernible gibbering)
A few years ago I tried to make a traditional chocolate cake leavened with egg whites instead of baking soda or baking powder. My consistent flaw in cooking is over boiling things, and I over boiled what should have just been standing hot water. So my "cake" came out like brownies. Sort of. But not in a good way. I also failed the one time I tried to make risotto, although I'm pretty sure that was because I didn't have the right kind of rice.
Usually my experiments with cooking turn out well. Everyone that has tried my white and dark chocolate bread pudding with bailey's irish cream sauce loves it. I don't remember the last time I followed a recipe exactly. I always change something. More spice than something calls for, or leaving out olives in another recipe. Other than aesthetically I think I've perfected omelets.
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I got a frying cookbook recently. One of the two recipes I've done so far is fried chicken. However, their batter is kind of bland, so today I gave it a blast from my spice weasel. BAM! I also cut the chicken breast up into big nuggets instead of cooking it as a single breast.
That's about as adventurous as I get with recipes.
Fedaykin98 wrote:
I recently tried making a wasabi pea crusted tuna, that would have been good if my steaks weren't too thin. They ended up getting overcooked, while the wasabi/panko crust was just right. That's typical of when I try and invent when cooking: I get 85% of the way there, but screw up something crucial and end up with a not terrible but not great meal.
Re: my earlier comment about chain food: in retrospect it was pretty obnoxious. I should have been clearer: most the sauces and such (and those places tend to drench their food in sauce) as well as most everything else just tends to taste overly processed and artificial to me. It wouldn't surprise me if corn syrup was used in just about everything from any major chain restaurant. So if you're cooking for yourself, you can be sure you're using good ingredients, so why try and emulate cooking that's designed to be cheap, fast, and easily mechanized? I do like that sort of stuff sometimes, but it's a bit of a guilty pleasure, like having dessert for dinner.
Re: a roux. Those are not too hard, but do depend on the quality of the butter. Cheap American butter tends not to hold up well in cooking in my experience, and is really difficult to get to a nice brown, which is sort of what you want. I get lurpak (some hoity-toity european butter: it's the only import brand my grocery store carries) butter for using in sauces, and just use regular butter for less demanding uses.
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Yellow5, I feel that to improvise in kitchen, just like in jazz, you have to already know the basic drill by heart. I have a problem similar to your tuna steaks: I can't get the oatmeal raisin cookies right. The dough is basically great, but they're either too runny or too brittle (or both), very tasty, but aesthetically unappealing - basically a shapeless heap. My idea is crunchy and firm. I'm playing around with the recipe (I've done them three or four times already) with the hope that through practice I'll eventually get it right. I'm quite good in cake baking, but it seems that this kind of recipe is much more susceptible to the quality of dough. If it's not exactly the right consistency, it's not working.
Lurpak is THE butter, legendary Danish stuff. But what you basically want from your butter is as much fat as possible, 80+ percent (Lurpak has 81, I believe). The problem with cheapo butters is that they can be mixed with plant oils, which means too much water on the pan when you heat them up.
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I can definitely see that. Every time a commercial comes on for the Super Duper Triple Butter Blue Cheese Melted Steak of the week at one of those places, a cow somewhere throws itself into the wood chipper rather than being turned into that. Why people would rather have a cheap, heavy sauce than the natural flavor of an expensive ingredient like steak, lobster or shrimp is a mystery.
And corn syrup is the devil, especially the high fructose variety. It's gotten to the point that even a poor palate like mine can taste the cheapness in commercial baked goods. Blecch. In addition, there's mounting evidence that it's played a significant part in America's obesity problems. Awesome job, Insane Government Subsidies!
Butter is good for making a light or medium roux, but I think vegetable oil is a better choice for dark roux. This is because the milk solids in butter burn at temperatures above 250 degrees Fahrenheit (121 Celsius). One way to get around this problem is to use clarified butter, from which the solids are removed.
Most commercial butter is around 80% fat, 18% water, and 2% milk solids, according to Harold McGee. I've never heard of any butter that contained plant oils, though if there were such a creature, it should result in less water in the pan, not more. Unlike butter, plant oils contain no water at all.
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Fedaykin98 wrote:
Put me down on the side of the basics first. I used to play jazz in the kitchen - back in my twenties. But in my thirties I really started to love cooking, and I forced myself to get the simple stuff right. My guides have been Mark Bittman and Julia Child and Cooks Illustrated.
My course has been about learning why certain things taste certain ways. There are reasons why certain things have become commonplace. So here's what I think every burgeoning chef needs to do other than sharpen their knives. (If you don't know when you sharpened your knives last, they're dull, and it matters.)
1: Learn how to make a pan sauce - this teaches you about fond, deglazing, reducing and aromatics. Each of these is *critical* to why 80% of the food you like in restaurants tastes the way it does.
2: Learn how to make roux - it teaches timing, and is a tremendous object lesson in transformation by heat.
3: Learn how to make Jam. It teaches timing, patience, and detail.
4: Spend a lot of time with Eggs and Butter. There's a reason these are staples in good food - they're incredibly versatile, and reward a delicate hand. Whip eggs by hand, learn how to brown butter.
5: Cook a lot of meat - learning when things are done, particularly beef and thick fish, is hard and important. There is no way to do either without washing your hands and poking at it (in my opinion).
6: Soups, Sauces and Stews. These three are slow and additive, and are a great way of experimenting with spices, and understanding WHY certain compinations make certain flavors.
Anyway, I've spent about 10 years trying to get good at those things. I think I'm about average now. At least now when I open a recipe from page 912 of one of Julia's books and she says "Lard a full tenderloin, after removing the silver skin, while reducing a port and shallot sauce" I know what to do.
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The trick with food is to know a few basic principles that apply everywhere and then use those to play around. Chinese stir fry is like this. The technique is almost always the same, all that changes is what goes in the pan.
Knowing the basics also lets you know when a recipe you are reading is bullsh*t. At this point, you can take the ingredients and make the food the right way.
It is also a basic fact that if you really want to learn how a dish works, watch someone's mother cook it. The recipes themselves only get you so far.
Oh yeah: learn how to make demiglace. Nowhere is there anything so simple that can make you look so brilliant.
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Yeah, right! Don't watch MY mother cook. She is fascinated that I learned to cook and even she admits it wasn't from her. (Grandpa mostly.) I've tried to teach her my version of "jazz in the kitchen" but she insists on precise measurements from measuring spoons and measuring cups. I don't cook that way. I will follow (someone else's) recipes for ingredients and ROUGH quantities but I substitute my own recipes "measurements" in the following order, smallest to largest...
sprinkle
shake
dash
poof (dry ingredients only or)
glob (wet ingredients only)
scoop
cup ( yes, a measuring cup but I ignore the line on it)
It's hard to describe the process because I've been cooking like this for nearly 20 years. It's like cooking using "the force". And yes, the same recipe made again comes out ever so slightly different from before. This keeps them from getting boring.
Oh, one more thing. Change the cheese in a recipe to change the taste if it gets boring.
The first time I attempted to make Baklava, the recipe said to brush each layer of phyllo dough with the butter/sugar syrup mixture so I did. I peeled each and every individual piece of phyllo pastry apart and brushed it. The recipe should have said that after unrolling the phyllo dough, each stack of phyllo dough should be brushed with the mixture. Instead of the light flaky pastry, we had Greek hardtack candy.
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My wife ALMOST did the same thing. I heard her cursing in the kitchen so I went to see why. She pointed at the recipe book and told me, "It's crazy. That's a lot of work to do that." I read the offending part of the recipe, looked at the pastry, then at her and started laughing. I told her, "I think you're taking the recipe too literally." Hmm, it must be a female thing to go into that detail. I guess guys are too lazy to put that much effort into a recipe.
I do admire your dedication to the task though. I hope it was edible.
Try swapping out your batter with an egg wash (egg and water) and seasoned Japanese panko bread crumbs. The panko turns wonderfully cripsy and golden brown when you fry it. If you cut your chicken breast into strips, you'll have some of the best darned chicken tenders you've ever tasted. Try it for fried fish as well.
I don't eat fish! And to be technical, it's not batter. It's an egg wash plus flour+salt+spice mixture, then another coating of egg wash and flour mixture for extra crispiness. I'll keep an eye out for the panko bread crumbs.
Fedaykin98 wrote:
Panko is what's used for tempura, if you want an idea of the type of crust it makes. Alton Brown has a great mac & cheese recipe that has a panko crust. If you want to make some comfort food, I recommend it.
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Ah, I've never had tempura.
Fedaykin98 wrote:
This is based on 2 whole breasts(multiply proportions in accord with your needs)
If you like pasta with your chicken parm, start the water boiling long before you begin, toss the pasta in just as you finish browning the chicken breasts.
Simple, naked, Chicken parmesan
Medium heat for all
What you want to do is cut pockets into the chicken breast halves. You stuff in cheese into this. Now, I like to either tie or skewer them closed(like when making cordon bleu). This helps keep the cheese in there, adding moisture, flavor, and not leaking out. Lightly pepper and salt the outsides of the breasts, garlic salt works very well
Brown these in a pan, then place them in a baking pan, cover(do not dry these babies out).
In the pan you just browned the breasts in, add a few tablespoons of olive oil. Into this, you will want to saute half an onion, per 2 breasts. This will add some great flavor to the sauce as well as be great in the initial deglazing with the oil.
Now you can either finish the sauce by just simmering some Ragu or such in the pan, or, you can go with my preferred method.
Grab a 16 ounce can of stewed tomatoes(Italian style are a plus as they are stewed in great herbs), and 2 whole garlic cloves(peeled), toss them into a blender, all together. And lightly blend for a few pulses. You can get a chunky or smooth texture, your taste. I prefer a smooth sauce. Simmer the sauce in the pan(having a splatter cover is nice).
In all this time, your chicken has been in the oven, probably for 10 minutes, maybe 15. Check their tenderness, to see if they are done. If not, back to the oven, if so, cut the oven, and let the breasts rest for a few minutes(it is important to let meat, poultry, pork, fish rest so that the natural juices settle in, cutting into a freshly cooked anything is a recipe for dryness disaster). The sauce does not have to simmer long to get tasty. Stir occasionally, add salt and pepper to taste.
I prefer this style to a traditionally breaded chicken parmesan, because no matter who makes it, the breading always ends up soggy under the sauce. I also find that this helps to bring out more chicken, and parmesan flavors, rather than an overpowering herb flavor from the breading.
Yummy this sounds good, if the wife has not fixed up dinner by the time I get home I might try this out! Maybe pictures if I decide on making a fool of myself
Keep posting good recipes!
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I was in Kyoto once and went to a restaurant that was particularly well known for their tempura. This stuff was some magic fried food where they managed to get that deep fried texture and taste with absolutely no oil. Or at least that's what it tasted like. Not a hint of oil, anywhere, at all. Amazing.
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Tempura batter is made with flour, corn starch, egg, and ice cold water. Panko is an awesome type of breadcrumbs, more flaky than crumby.