Real evidence of Anti-Christian persecution
Friday, February 1st, 2008 - 10:46am
This is all I can come up with.
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I don't get it, why would the NFL not like this? What does the size of the screen have to do with anything?
"PEACE ON EARTH. GOOD WILL TO MEN. PUBLIC SHELTER. ADMISSION 50¢"
My guess is that NFL was pissed that Halo 3 is making such big inroads with churches, and decided to punish them!
Edit: seeing how bars still can show the game on their big screen TV, maybe the churches could use it as a loophole? Just serve up some booze through the duration!
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So if I bought a sixty inch plasma, I couldn't have a Super Bowl Party?
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Before I call this persecution, I'd like to know if they've taken steps to stop other, similar parties. It's not like churches have always been the only place for a Superbowl Party.
Though I do have to question, why the hell does a church need a TV like that to begin with, and if they can afford one why exactly are they tax-exempt? On the other side, if my local church had that kind of setup I might be encouraged to rediscover religion...
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The same thing happened last year and was covered in this very forum.
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Come to think of it, I never really thought of the Football crowd as particularly anti-religious, what with the thanking God for taking time off to help them win a game.
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Legally? No, not likely.
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Yea, they seem to do this every year.
Is this something the NFL has to enforce for the law to maintain efficacy? Is it a case where selectively ignoring enforcement of the law prevents them from enforcing it anywhere? Otherwise, I fail to see how this could possibly hurt revenue in any meaningful way.
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If they are getting a large crowd of people to watch the game (lets use a 100 as an example), and then passing around the collection plate at this gathering. Then hell yeah the NFL should crack down on them. They are using NFL property to generate revenue. Which is exactly what that 55" policy is meant to fight. It would be no different if you had a party and charged everyone a couple bucks for a entrance fee.
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That's funny, I don't remember signing an NDA.
What if they're not?
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Found this on FARK, thought it was funny, please don't be offended.
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I'm guessing people didn't read the article very closely.
Also, even large televisions are not that expensive anymore, even a moderately-well-off church could potentially afford one, if they wanted (I once worked in a moderately-well-off church). Even a minor renovation project costs enormously more than a large television.
Besides, sports bars are exempt due to idiotic restriction, and they are not letting people watch the Super Bowl out of the kindness of their hearts.
If I was put into this situation, I would tell the NFL to stuff it. It would be idiotic of them to bring legal action against a church, even if this sort of stupidity is enforceable, which I have my doubts about.
Instead of one 60", can they have three 55"'s in the same room?
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Tann, I asked why they didn't like it, and you told me that they don't like it. I know that. I'm asking why. They make money off of advertising. The more people viewing, the better. Why wouldn't they want exhibitions of the game? This is stupid.
"PEACE ON EARTH. GOOD WILL TO MEN. PUBLIC SHELTER. ADMISSION 50¢"
I'm betting the sports bars pay licensing fees. Ever seen the Muzak guys wander through neighborhoods, looking for stores that have radios playing so they can get them shut down? Same deal, I bet.
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Ah. Well, that makes sense then. Interesting that, unless it's simply been omitted from this article, they didn't say "stop or pay," but simply said "stop."
"PEACE ON EARTH. GOOD WILL TO MEN. PUBLIC SHELTER. ADMISSION 50¢"
Not that I'm a big fan of the NFL for this sort of thing, but if they want to retain their rights, they have to enforce them. Public performances of their intellectual property cannot happen without their permission, in the same way that these churches can't just buy or rent a DVD and play movies without also obtaining public performance rights for the film as well as the DVD. If they turn a blind eye, then places can start charging folks to see games w/o giving the NFL a cut. Its just the way the law works.
We deal with this a lot in the library when we get in AV materials, we have to keep track of which rights go with which items. This isn't an NFL problem, or a religion problem, it the mess that is US copyright law.
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This isn't so much NFL stupid as US Copyright Law stupid, as Oso said. Though, if my (rusty) memory serves, advertiser stupidity may come into play here as well. I think that part of how advertising is calculated is how many households (Or TV sets, but I think it's households) are watching. So 50 groups of 10 people show up as more than 1 group of 500.
Now, the sanity of that is obviously in question.
In my humble opinion, I don't think the NFL wants to do this. I mean, personally, I wouldn't watch the super bowl if mom didn't throw a super bowl party. Never mind the copyright law idiocy.
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