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So the spelling of "okay" has always bothered me. Looking at "OK" just makes me uncomfortable, and I get chills when using "O.K." without having any idea what I'm abbreviating. Even Wikipedia has failed me (although it did reveal that K.Y. was once an abbreviation for the comical misspelling of "no use," casting into doubt the lubricating jelly's good name).

So what etymological anomalies have been keeping you up at night?

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This may be what you're looking for.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okay

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I HATE that right is direction/correct and that write is to pen something down.

I hate it because you have to read something, not wread it. So the coupling should be read and right. Like R and R. And then Write and Left, since there isn't a relationship in the first place.

It's friggin' backwards!

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Wouldn't want you to lose any sleep. The letters stand for "oll korrect." They're the result of a fad for comical abbreviations that flourished in the late 1830s and 1840s. It gained popularity with the arrival of the OK Club, which supported Martin "Old Kinderhook" Van Buren in 1840.

And now you know... the rest of the story.

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Jaunty wrote:
So what etymological anomalies have been keeping you up at night?

This is probably a question best left up to the likes of wordsmythe.

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Chiggie Von Richthofen wrote:
I HATE that right is direction/correct and that write is to pen something down.

I hate it because you have to read something, not wread it. So the coupling should be read and right. Like R and R. And then Write and Left, since there isn't a relationship in the first place.

It's friggin' backwards!

Sort of like how Chiggie and grouchy should totally be synonymous.

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Chiggie Von Richthofen wrote:
I HATE that right is direction/correct and that write is to pen something down.

It gets worse. I was in a vehicle when this happened.

Driver: "Turn left here?"
Navigator: "Right."
Driver turns right into a driveway and nearly causes an accident.
Me: Gaaah!
Other Passengers: Gaaah!
Driver: Doh!

After that we started giving turning directions as "Conservative" and "Liberal"

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Hemidal wrote:
Chiggie Von Richthofen wrote:
I HATE that right is direction/correct and that write is to pen something down.

I hate it because you have to read something, not wread it. So the coupling should be read and right. Like R and R. And then Write and Left, since there isn't a relationship in the first place.

It's friggin' backwards!

Sort of like how Chiggie and grouchy should totally be synonymous.

My wife says the same thing. Except instead of Chiggie she says Stephen.

Oh.

And, instead of grouchy, she says son of a bitch. But, you know. Same thing.

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tanstaafl wrote:
Chiggie Von Richthofen wrote:
I HATE that right is direction/correct and that write is to pen something down.

It gets worse. I was in a vehicle when this happened.

Driver: "Turn left here?"
Navigator: "Right."
Driver turns right into a driveway and nearly causes an accident.
Me: Gaaah!
Other Passengers: Gaaah!
Driver: Doh!

After that we started giving turning directions as "Conservative" and "Liberal"

The magic word is "correct".

I usually don't mind etymology as much as linguistic fabrications/misuses. High on my list are "normalcy" and "fungible".

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Minute. Why is it so damned hard for me to spell minute?

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Because I'm Canadian it bothers me to no end to see colour written as "color", catalogue as "catalog", and cheque as "check".

Don't even get me started on people pronouncing portage "port age" and foyer "foi er"

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http://www.oed.com/ This should clear up any other questions you have regarding word origin.


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Trachalio wrote:
Don't even get me started on people pronouncing portage "port age"

Probably because most of us don't live in areas where it's cold enough to have a portage.

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Rat Boy wrote:
Trachalio wrote:
Don't even get me started on people pronouncing portage "port age"

Probably because most of us don't live in areas where it's cold enough to have a portage.

*scratches head*

Portage: To lift craft out of the water and carry them past an obstruction such as a lock, weir or rapids.

Cold has nothing to do with it mister

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wierd

Politely rude. Briskly vague. Firmly uninformative.

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Trachalio wrote:
Don't even get me started on people pronouncing portage "port age" and foyer "foi er"

How is portage supposed to be pronounced?

And do you pronounce foyer "foi eh"? like some crazy Frenchman?

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Rezzy wrote:
wierd

Definately

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"all right" vs "alright"

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Good lord, I wouldn't have expected brilliance like that from that nemeslut Quintin Stone!

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People who type /. rather than slashdot should be shot.

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Edwin wrote:
People who type /. rather than slashdot should be shot.

But.. you just did.

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shihonage wrote:
Rezzy wrote:
wierd

Definately


Definitely.

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kaostheory wrote:
Trachalio wrote:
Don't even get me started on people pronouncing portage "port age" and foyer "foi er"

How is portage supposed to be pronounced?

And do you pronounce foyer "foi eh"? like some crazy Frenchman?

Both are French words, so yes they should sound French

Foyer [fwaje] = Foi-yai

Portage [pɔʀta:ʒ] = Por-tahge

Sources: Grand dictionnaire terminologique and Portail Lexical

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Edwin wrote:
People who type /. rather than slashdot should be shot.

Does it make you want to /wrists?

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duckilama wrote:
shihonage wrote:
Rezzy wrote:
wierd

Definately


Definutely.

Fixed for consistency. If you can't come up with a new word, at least misspell the one you borrowed.

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shihonage wrote:
duckilama wrote:
shihonage wrote:
Rezzy wrote:
wierd

Definately


Definutely.

Fixed for consistency. If you can't come up with a new word, at least misspell the one you borrowed.

True dat.

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VicD714 wrote:
shihonage wrote:
duckilama wrote:
shihonage wrote:
Rezzy wrote:
wierd

Definately


Definutely.

Fixed for consistency. If you can't come up with a new word, at least misspell the one you borrowed.

True dat.

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Trachalio wrote:
kaostheory wrote:
Trachalio wrote:
Don't even get me started on people pronouncing portage "port age" and foyer "foi er"

How is portage supposed to be pronounced?

And do you pronounce foyer "foi eh"? like some crazy Frenchman?

Both are French words, so yes they should sound French

Foyer [fwaje] = Foi-yai

Portage [pɔʀta:ʒ] = Por-tahge

Sources: Grand dictionnaire terminologique and Portail Lexical

I hear ya. But unless you are in France or talking to a Frenchman, pronouncing it that way make you sound pretentious.
Kind of like people who insist on pronouncing with a Spanish accent at a Mexican restaurant (rolling their r's and what have you).
Nevermind if the place is owned by Pepsi Co and the waitress is some Chinese girl in high school.

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Novocain wrote:
Kind of like people who insist on pronouncing with a Spanish accent at a Mexican restaurant (rolling their r's and what have you).

So if you speak the language you should butcher the pronunciation because you're of a different ethnicity? Damn straight I'm not going to order fuh-jee-tuhz.

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Raven wrote:
Jaunty wrote:
So what etymological anomalies have been keeping you up at night?

This is probably a question best left up to the likes of wordsmythe.

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Trachalio wrote:
kaostheory wrote:
Trachalio wrote:
Don't even get me started on people pronouncing portage "port age" and foyer "foi er"

How is portage supposed to be pronounced?

And do you pronounce foyer "foi eh"? like some crazy Frenchman?

Both are French words, so yes they should sound French

Foyer [fwaje] = Foi-yai

Portage [pɔʀta:ʒ] = Por-tahge

Sources: Grand dictionnaire terminologique and Portail Lexical

Do you really want me to start listing French words that have been incorporated into English and given new, English pronunciations? You Canucks can go ahead and pronounce formerly French words in the a la francais, since you have your weird little love-hate thing with French as well as with a small group of people who speak a 400 year old variant thereof. That's fine. Just don't go shoving your silly (mis)pronunciations on us.

tanstaafl wrote:
After that we started giving turning directions as "Conservative" and "Liberal"

"Turn conservative at the next corner"? Not only does that concept alarm me, but it also leads me to add that "right" is also a noun denoting a sense of entitlement.

Extra credit: Look up the Spanish translations of the direction and the entitlement.

LilCodger wrote:
I usually don't mind etymology as much as linguistic fabrications/misuses. High on my list are "normalcy" and "fungible".

Is there a misuse of "fungible" that I've not been accosted with, or are you merely being some sort of Latin purist?

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Is there a misuse of "fungible" that I've not been accosted with, or are you merely being some sort of Latin purist?

I have been accosted four or five times in the last year by corporate types who feel that "fungible" is a trendy synonym for "liquid".

Every time without fail, the response to my correction is the classic, "usage dictates meaning." I usually encourage them to head to bankruptcy court and start throwing the term "fungible" around.

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