NFL 07 - Postseason (pre-draft)

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Well the season is over for everyone but the Giants and Patriots. Coaches are being fired and hired and the players have all cleaned out their lockers. We can't talk about it in the playoffs thread (Playoffs?! You kidding me?) forever so here's a shiny new one for your entertainment until *Legion* and the Rat break out their 2008 draft threads some time this Spring. Enjoy.

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Hey, *Legion*'s the draft guy; I'm the news and crappy awards guy.

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Cam Cameron to Baltimore as the offensive coordinator? Yeah, that will help them.

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Draft position is also determined by the playoffs right? Assuming so this would put the Packers at something like 28-29th?... Sigh.

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You know, I think I'm getting more excited about this superbowl as it wears on... I think the Giants will do quite well.. this just had to grow on me some. I think that watching the hitler is a cowboys fan video off of cracked.com really was one of the funniest things I think I've ever watched... This is a bit NSFW because of the subtitled cursing, but all the dialogue is in German and is from a movie.

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jowner wrote:
Draft position is also determined by the playoffs right?

2008 NFL draft order

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Any pre-draft analysis for us, Legion? Who do you expect to go in the top 10? Also, what is the 'subject to coin flip'? Do they actually flip a coin on draft day?

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BlackSheep wrote:
You know, I think I'm getting more excited about this superbowl as it wears on... I think the Giants will do quite well.. this just had to grow on me some. I think that watching the hitler is a cowboys fan video off of cracked.com really was one of the funniest things I think I've ever watched... This is a bit NSFW because of the subtitled cursing, but all the dialogue is in German and is from a movie.

http://www.cracked.com/video_15832_hitler-bloodthirsty-dictator-die-hard...

They've started making tons of these videos now. I think the original was this one about Hitler playing poker. It's hilarious as well.

I think it will be a fun game, and a pretty memorable game if the Giants pull off an upset. Otherwise it will be a coronation for Tom Brady, which will drive many viewers away. That would make for the worst possible scenario. But if the Giants stay even with the Patriots throughout the game, it should be pretty fun to watch.

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ouch that pick is low.

anyways first pick is up for grabs.

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MOBILE, Ala. -- Let the bidding for the No. 1 pick begin.

"We're open for business," new Dolphins general manager Jeff Ireland, on hand to watch practices for the Senior Bowl, told the NFL Network on Wednesday.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft08/news/story?id=3212077

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I started trying to list the Bears' needs. It might be easier to list what they don't need.

  • A new return man
  • A new kicker
  • A new punter

I'm hesitant to add defensive positions.

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Uh oh. ESPN's parroting rumors that it's splitsville for Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson.

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I find it ridiculous that ESPN tries to be all serious, especially on Sportscenter, as they are reporting celebrity gossip usually found on the E! channel. I really do not care about Tony Romo's personal life and I'm sure the majority of viewers would say the same.

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Minase wrote:
Also, what is the 'subject to coin flip'? Do they actually flip a coin on draft day?

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Atlanta, Kansas City, and Oakland had the same strength-of-schedule in the 2007 season. Since Kansas City finished third in the AFC West Division and the Raiders fourth (the tie was broken on the basis of record in common games), the Raiders will draft ahead of the Chiefs. Atlanta and Oakland will flip a coin for the third position at the NFL Combine in February. If Atlanta wins, the Falcons will draft third, the Raiders fourth, and the Chiefs fifth. If the Raiders win the coin flip, they will draft third, and the Falcons and Chiefs will flip a coin to determine the fourth and fifth positions.

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Draft position is also determined by the playoffs right?

2008 NFL draft order

god damn thats depressing.. Eagles win pointless and useless games and finish 19th with only playoff teams below them.. STUPID STUPID STUPID.

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I find it ridiculous that ESPN tries to be all serious, especially on Sportscenter, as they are reporting celebrity gossip usually found on the E! channel. I really do not care about Tony Romo's personal life and I'm sure the majority of viewers would say the same.

What else are they going to talk about? Hockey?

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god damn thats depressing.. Eagles win pointless and useless games and finish 19th with only playoff teams below them.. STUPID STUPID STUPID.

Yeah, if you can't make the playoffs, then you may as well tank the season.

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Oh, now this is just too delicious. Al Davis reportedly wants Raiders head coach Lane Kiffin to resign so he could perhaps hire Denny Green. The cantankerous owner even drew up a letter of resignation for Kiffin to sign, which he has so far refused to, daring Al to fire him. I guess Al is who we thought he was.

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god damn thats depressing.. Eagles win pointless and useless games and finish 19th with only playoff teams below them.. STUPID STUPID STUPID.

Yeah, if you can't make the playoffs, then you may as well tank the season.

Yeah, it was so accidental that the Chiefs lost nine straight to finish out the year! Personally, I loved it. They will pick 4th or 5th depending on the coin flip. I hope they pick up a similar or better pick next season.

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LeapingGnome wrote:
I find it ridiculous that ESPN tries to be all serious, especially on Sportscenter, as they are reporting celebrity gossip usually found on the E! channel. I really do not care about Tony Romo's personal life and I'm sure the majority of viewers would say the same.

What else are they going to talk about? Hockey?

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Rat Boy wrote:
Oh, now this is just too delicious. Al Davis reportedly wants Raiders head coach Lane Kiffin to resign so he could perhaps hire Denny Green. The cantankerous owner even drew up a letter of resignation for Kiffin to sign, which he has so far refused to, daring Al to fire him. I guess Al is who we thought he was.

Nice to see Al learned his lesson from that whole Mike Shanahan fiasco.

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Al Davis is such an idiot. The guy is pulling all of the BS, in order to sign Denny Green? Can anyone guess how that will work out?

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Al Davis is such an idiot. The guy is pulling all of the BS, in order to sign Denny Green? Can anyone guess how that will work out?

More postgame press conference blowups, I hope.

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Gregg Williams fired by the Redskins. Well, I guess this means he won't be the head coach, then.

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Gregg Williams fired by the Redskins. Well, I guess this means he won't be the head coach, then.

Al Saunders too.

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Jacksonville enters this off-season with $30-35 million in free cap space. David Garrard will be getting a nice chunk of that, but there will be plenty left for adding some talent. A serious pass rushing DE would be nice (Reggie Hayward was that guy, a great up-and-comer when Jacksonville snagged him from Denver 2 years ago, but he hasn't been the same player since his Achilles rupture).

More interesting, the Jags have "reorganized" the front office, elevating former "Director of College Scouting" Gene Smith to the position of "Executive Director of College and Pro Personnel", seemingly usurping power from James "Shack" Harris. With David Garrard's success, Del Rio clearly won the QB Wars, and it looks like he got someone he likes better at the top of the personnel ladder. Good for Gene, a guy who has been with the Jaguars since the franchise's 1994 inception.

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Rex Raven returns to Ravens, retitled, with a raise and more responsibility.

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Rex Raven returns to Ravens, retitled

That brings a whole new meaning to retitled.

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Bah, too much cutting-and-pasting back and forth as I tried to get cute with my alliteration. Epic fail.

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With the Super Bowl not even half a day behind us, the NFL season once again comes to a close. And once again, out of all professional sports, the NFL off-season is the most active, with trades, drafts, signings, and the occasional crimes against human decency. So, while most of us start to draft excuses to avoid spending too much time with our SO's on Sunday afternoons, football life goes on.

And what better way to start the off-season than to look back on the past season with...another awards show!

Most awards recognize outstanding excellence in a particular field. The MVP, the Rookie of the Year, the Emmy for Single-Camera Picture Editing For A Miniseries, Movie Or A Special. These, however, seek to acknowledge merit and achievements both obscure and questionable. In fact, "Obscure and Questionable" is my middle name. Onward!

The Doug Flutie Award for Breakthrough Performance...But Not By A Rookie: Sure, when you're a top draft pick like Adrian Peterson or Patrick Willis, you're half-expected to go out there within your first year and make an impact for your team. But what about those vets who've been in the league for a few years just waiting for super stardom? Terrell Owens was nobody until he took part in "The Catch II." Kurt Warner might still have been an obscure stock boy until he took the Rams to a Super Bowl victory. In the case of this year's winner, it looked for a while like he wasn't going to be where he is now. But, after backing-up two different starters and facing a debilitating illness, he got his shot and led his team to the post season. This year's winner is David Garrard (QB, Jacksonville Jaguars). Some wondered just what was going on in Jacksonville when head coach Jack del Rio showed his previous starter, Byron Leftwich, the door in favor of Garrard, but he showed up the detractors, ranking higher on paper than the likes of Peyton Manning, Tony Romo, and Brett Favre.

2006-2007 Winner: Frank Gore (RB, San Francisco 49ers)

The "Who 'Dey?" Award for the League's Best Obscure Team: Every year there's a team that no one really mentions up until they suddenly show up on the playoff's doorstep, quietly languishing in the midsts of juggernauts like the Indianapolis Colts or New England Patriots, particularly the former in this year's winner's case. In spite of finishing the regular season 11 and 5 plus getting into the playoffs, it took an injury to get even one of their players invited to the Pro Bowl. If you couldn't guess by now, that team is the Jacksonville Jaguars. With the Colts future clouded in mystery and New England's carriage to perfection turning back to a pumpkin at midnight, next season could be the year that Jacksonville leaps out of the shadows and into the spotlight.

2006-2007 Winner: New York Jets

The "Don't Believe the Hype" Award for the League's Highly Overrated Team: An oft-repeated mantra this season has been talent does not equal success, nor does success in the regular season equal success in the post season. The Minnesota Vikings and Indianapolis Colts once had great teams in the past, practically shoo-ins for the Lombardi Trophy, but completely fell apart in the playoffs. This year's "honoree" might have gotten more dap were it not for a certain team out of the Boston area's performance this season. That's not to say they were overlooked; they are, after all, one of the most noted franchises in NFL history. But, when it came down to it, the Dallas Cowboys produced as big of a yawn in the post season as they did in that Pepsi commercial. Just don't go blaming Tony Romo or else you'll make Terrell Owens cry again.

2006-2007 Winner: San Diego Chargers

The Jim Mora Award for Spontaneous Press Conference Combustion: Logically, one would assume that a person would be in their worst move just seconds after losing a dramatic game. But, it does make for rather interesting television, so much so that the Coors Brewing Company spliced this award's namesake into their up-until then ridiculous series of ads. Heck, if you're last year's winner, you might be able to trademark you're rantings and rake in the cash. Alas, none of the NFL head coaches this season lived up to the benchmark set by those that have come before, thus we turn to the college ranks. True, this one didn't happen after a game and might not have been spontaneous, but damn if it wasn't funny to watch. This year's winner, hands down, is Mike Gundy (Head Coach, Oklahoma State University). If you've got a problem with it, then come after me. I'm a man! I'm twenty-eight!

2006-2007 Winner: Denny Green (Former Head Coach, Arizona Cardinals)

The Ricky Williams Award for the "What the Hell Was He Thinking?" Moment of the Year: And sometimes, individual lapses in judgment are the most glaring of all and can impact a team in so many ways. The distractions, the press coverage, possible fines and suspensions; one player's actions can send the entire organization into a tail-spin, going from such great heights down to the cellar. As alluded to in the previous award, this year's winner managed to wreck the very franchise that pinned their hopes on him. This year's winner is Michael Vick (QB, Atlanta Falcons), who thanks to his dog-fighting scandal destroyed the Falcons so bad that owner Arthur Blank will need more than the entire stock of every one of his Home Depot stores to put the organization back together again.

2006-2007 Winner: Ben Rothlesberger (QB, Pittsburgh Steelers)

The Guiding Light Award for Soap-Operas that Never End: There are certain people and teams in the NFL that whenever someone opens their mouth, it suddenly becomes the top headline on SportsCenter and dissected for 90 seconds on PTI. While it might have once been interesting when the tale first began, now it's become annoying to the point where you click over to another channel whenever he, she, or they appear on screen. This year's winner isn't so much a person or team than a situation that wouldn't go away no matter how much we wanted it to. Continuing the age-old tradition started nearly forty years ago, this year's winner for this award is the Patriots chasing the '72 Dolphins. If I had a dime every time I saw Bob Griese, Mercury Morris, or Don Schula talking about New England, I sure as hell wouldn't be wasting my time writing this stuff. I'd pay someone else to do it.

2006-2007 Winner: Terrell Owens (WR, Dallas Cowboys)

The Carolina Panthers Cheerleaders Award for Best Oogaba of the Season: Come on now, there's a reason why the cameras keep sweeping past the cheerleaders on the sidelines. Occasionally, those of us who watch every frame of the game sometimes hope we'll be treated to an impromptu moment akin to Janet Jackson's halftime oogaba of years past. Sadly, thanks to Justin Timberlake inadvertently bringing her sexy back, that probably won't be happening with the seven second delay, but sometimes you get lucky. Ordinarily when you think of half-naked people in the cold, you unfortunately conjure up an image of overweight men completely painted in their team's colors (which probably cover up the fact that his skin is turning blue) wearing nothing more than a g-string. Thankfully, some members of the fairer sex this year gave us a "blink and you miss it" moment on NBC's Football Night in America that was quite easy on the eye. This year's award goes to the three Green Bay Packers fans wearing bikini tops. Nothing shows off team pride like showing off logoed oogaba, particularly in the frozen tundra of Lambeau field. First briefly glimpsed during the Pack's Week 17 game against Detroit, they got more, ahem, exposure in the NFC Championship game in twenty below weather. That's dedication.

2006-2007 Winner: Tara Conner and Katie Blair (Miss USA and Miss Teen USA, 2006). See this thread for details.

The Dick Cline Award for Bad Decisions in NFL Broadcasting: Football is a business and the way that the product is brought to most consumers is through television, so naturally if something goes wrong like in the Heidi Game (this award is named for the NBC supervisor who cut away from that game in favor of that movie), there's going to be a lot of people upset by it. Be it a minor scheduling choice or something like sticking Dennis Miller in the booth, anything that detracts from the viewing experience makes the game look bad. In this particular case, this decision led to many people not being able to see the games period. Our winner this year (and the second in a row) is the NFL Network. Bad enough only some people got it last season, but in what has to be one of the worst taking candy from a baby moments in history, they made people pay for the network they got for free last year. And like a drug dealer trying to get a new client fixed on the stuff, they gave us but a taste when they let NBC and CBS air the Week 17 match-up between the Giants and the perfection-seeking Patriots. One wonders what bone headed-decision this channel can make next year in order to "win" a three-peat.

2006-2007 Winner: NFL Network

And now, for two new awards this year:

The Peyton Manning Award for Most Ubiquitous Pitchman: Michael Jordan. Say that name and immediately two things come to mind: NBA championships and shoes. It's a rarity where one sport can be marketed by one man, like Air Jordan or Tiger Woods. Anytime you turn on a game, chances are you'll see an advertisement starring this award's namesake, from everything from cellphones to credit cards and now Oreos. Some say it's reached the point of inducing nausea, but at least he (and now his brother Eli) has a Super Bowl ring to prove that he isn't getting all this attention for nothing. That...really can't be said about this year's winner. His resume leading up to the beginning of this past season included making a big goof that cost his team a playoff victory and a penchant for hooking up with hot singers. And yet, Tony Romo (QB, Dallas Cowboys) starred in two Pepsi commercials (one airing during the Super Bowl), two "This is SportsCenter" spots, and a Sopranos spoof for ESPN. Fortunately, with Eli Manning winning the Super Bowl, we may be spared a sequel to "Sixty Stretch Far...*yaaaaaaawn*."

The Joe Namath Award for Putting Your Money Where Your Mouth Is: Making boasts is a tricky proposition. You're wrong and you get ridiculed for it; you're right and maybe you get some dap for it. Ever since Broadway Joe famously stated that his eighteen point underdog New York Jets would defeat the Baltimore Colts in Super Bowl III, making such bold predictions has become all too common and frankly all too boring. All things being equal, anyone claiming their team will win is a fifty-fifty shot; either you win or you lose. But, sometimes you get the prognostication that just seems so strange and outlandish that there's no way that it'll happen. We came pretty darn close this year and in the tradition of the man who tried to kiss Suzy Kolber, it was made in connection to the biggest game of the year. Many scoffed at Plaxico Burress' (WR, New York Giants) claim that the New England Patriots would be held to just seventeen points in Super Bowl XLII. Even Tom Brady dismissed it, but I bet now he wished like hell he had those seventeen points that Plaxico spotted him. To cap it all off, he even caught the game winning touchdown.

Finally, the granddaddy of them all:

Rat Boy's Rat of the Year Award: Occasionally over the course of an NFL season we find that someone commits an act so heinous that it boggles the mind. Getting accused of a crime, throwing teammates under the bus, or getting involved in major on-the-field brawls are just some of the actions that rise to the level of being some of the worst behavior imaginable. Whether it's Terrell Owens' antics during his time with the Philadelphia Eagles or Ricky Williams "retiring" to avoid getting fined and suspended for violating the league's substance abuse policy, sometimes a person's actions just defy explanation and permanently damage their reputation in the eyes of the public. Is there really any doubt in your mind as to who I'm singling out this year? It's Michael Vick; no other person in the league this past year has caused more controversy and more harm to a franchise and to the game of football itself than him. It's acts like that will get you the Rat of the Year Award.

2006-2007 Winner: Nick Saban (Former Head Coach, Miami Dolphins)

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Baltimore rumored to be offering their #8 pick to the Eagles for McNabb.

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Baltimore rumored to be offering their #8 pick to the Eagles for McNabb.

I think that would be a wonderful move for the Ravens. They're going to have to start looking at their defense again too, with their LBs starting to show age and attrition to FA. I think they've got some good WRs (at least Clayton and if Mason still has something left in the tank). It'll be interesting to see what new offensive scheme they come up with now that Billick is gone, after all, McNabb is only a younger McNair with the same injury problems floating around him.

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