Frozen Pipes
Saturday, January 19th, 2008 - 2:16pm
One of the many annoyances of the old house I live in with my grandpa. Fortunately, there's only one pipe fitting busted, and since we have a well, and we noticed right away, we flipped the breaker, and no burst pipes.
The pipe fitting is in the pressure tank, and so I've had to attack the thing with a propane torch to get the PVC out, the pop broke the thing off at the threads.
It could be much much worse, we still have heat and drinking water... but it's a right pain to not have running water.
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It's about as useful as the TSA making you put your tiny shampoo in a plastic baggie.



You never really appreciate just how little water can make a big pile of snow until you start boiling snow for water.
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I'm stingy with the oil so I keep my house pretty cold. Keeping the pipes from freezing is never far from my mind in the winter months.
Got any toast?
Once my duty station in Mt Rainier was shut down for the season, I moved to a non operating church camp just outside of the park boundary until the rest of the roads in my patrol area closed up for the season. It was free rent for me and the other ranger that lived there, and the church received some free security by having us and our marked patrol cars on premises. The camp recently was purchased by another church group, and they were in the process of renovating the camp which hadn't been well maintained for the past 5 or so years. Everything had to be brought up to code, including the water main that was a wooden pipe. I moved in early October, water was shut off in mid October, and the new main wasn't running until 4 or so days before I moved out in early December. Every few days we had to fill our 5 gallon water jugs at a nearby spring, and unfortunately there wasn't a good water source close enough that it was convenient to keep water that could be used for flushing the toilet. Although the potable water could be used in an emergency. At one point in November, the nearby Forest Service contact station that we were using as a toilet and shower facility lost its pump. Fun times.
When I was living in on-campus housing in Montana, I was always horribly paranoid that our pipes would freeze when we were gone for Christmas, and always left a tap running while we were gone. Being a second story apartment, I was pretty sure the pipes were well insulated enough. But I couldn't get the thought of flooding out our downstairs neighbors out of my mind.
When my folks were still working seasonally for the Forest Service in northern Idaho back in the 70's, their pipes started freezing in an early cold snap. Rather than crawling around underneath the cabin every few days with a propane torch, they packed up the truck and spent the rest of the winter touring around the southwest.
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I've had to replace the section of pipe that goes to the outside spiggots multiple times, even when I use the interior shutoff valves for them. Luckily that is my only experienece with frozen pipes. They do sell pipe warmers, you know, for once you fix it.
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What exactly counts as a toilet/flushing emergency?
Did you remember to drain the pipes after turning off the interior shutoff?
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D'oh!
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I hear you. Once, in days gone by, I lived in a crappy rental home, sans basement but it had a crawl space where all of the plumbing ran. Problem was that my land lord did not insulate this area. One wintry morning I remember waking up to the sound of lapping water, dreamily thinking I had fallen asleep on a tropical beach. Alas, no, it was cold as freaking hell and the pipes had burst, flooding the crawl space to the brim with water. It took that slum lord two weeks to get a plumber out, so I know what it's like to have no running water. It sucks
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I think a good warm pair of underwear would keep the pipes nice and warm.
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Why I Hate Red Squirrels by Alien13z:
I grew up in a house with well water in upstate New York. We used to wrap electrical heating tape around the exposed portions of the intake pipe to keep it from freezing. One morning we didn't have water despite the tape. I went down to the cellar. A red squirrel had chewed through the electrical heating tape and shorted it out. We knew it was a red squirrel because it was still stuck to the pipe where it had been electrocuted.
Thus began the great red squirrel purge of 1983.
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I remember bringing in the irrigation line from the pasture one fall, and my dad had me shut off the water to the line. Well, I closed both valves that were there, one of which was the drain valve, which was to be left open. Ah, good fun digging out and replacing buried irrigation line and valves that next spring.
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You know, it wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for my grandpa. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy to death, and I've stayed to help take care of him, but we got the stuff we needed to fix the pipes today, and he doesn't want to go into the basement to fix it, cause it's dark and snowy. I can't do it solo, but it's just the PVC fitting to the pressure tank, it's really not hard. Bah.
I did get some of that electric heater tape for the pipes, by the way. And the PVC pipes are like, 24+ years old, so they did need to be replaced... I just wouldn't have chosen to do it in 10 degree weather.
LobsterMobster wrote:
Seems like stuff never breaks on sunny 72 degree days around here, either.
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Though a break in the weather is always appreciated.
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Maybe a remote valve would help?
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*Legion* wrote:
Water is back on, heater tape installed... and cats evicted. (Unfinished basement with a door in the backyard, had to fix the door as well. Methinks that and the frozen pipes were related.)
The way ours fails, if you're observent enough to notice when the water stops, you can just hit the breaker and be done with it. (We've got a well system) And considering someone is always up, it's not that big of a deal. I also wrapped a couple of layers of chicken wire over the pipe insulation, to at least help prevent any rodent damage.
LobsterMobster wrote:
This thread is a great example of why I live in the bay area. Pipes... freezing? Weird.
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True. But it's hilarious to see your cat try to get out, run into a snowbank, and bolt back inside.
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Is this where I call you a sally?
My eyelashes froze together on the way to work this morning. I always think that's kind of neat.
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Excellent. Back to the gaming!
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Call me whatever you like, I'm not the one living in a place where you have to make sure your plumbing is warm.
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Try having your nose hairs go all frosty and crinkly while at work. Walmart's freezers sucked.
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Christ, this is why I never want to leave the southwest. Freezing pipes?! Snow?! I prefer to spend my winter days like I did last weekend: golfing on a beautiful 68 degree day.
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Meh, with global warming we'll have wakeboarding penguins any year now.
Quintin_Stone wrote:
lunabean wrote:This thread mus have cursed me
. Had a pipe break at my rental property on Saturday. About 8 inches of water in the basement from a break that was about an inch long and a few millimeters wide. Hooray for Minnesota. I'm currently having a restoration company work on everything, but it is looking like I'm getting a brand new basement out of the deal.
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For some of the irritating things about having a well system (No power = no water, among other things) Being able to kill the water with a breaker flip is beautiful.
I miss going to the beach on Christmas though. (I lived in Florida until I was 10)
Though, nebraska has a lock on worst weather. -5 winters AND 110 summers. It rarely got over 90 where I was living in florida, and you had a nice sea breeze!
LobsterMobster wrote:
Just an update to my pipe fiasco...
Apparently if my rental property is vacant for more than 60 days, insurance won't cover a claim for water damage due to a broken pipe. Never mind the fact that we have had realtors in and out every week, were there ourselves all the time, or the fact that we caught the leak after less than 24 hours.
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My pipe is plenty warm, honey.
Betty Rubble was hot. That is all.
Add lake effect precipitation to that, and you've got the Midwest. I'm glad I'm not on the east side of the lake, at least.
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Yes because having your pipes ripped out of the ground and shredded by an earthquake is a far less trouble