Bush admin. admits to destroying emails.

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George said"…..yeah, we destroyed em"…..now whatcha gonna do about sucker? he he

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Very, very late last night, just before midnight, the Bush administration submitted a filing in CREW v. Executive Office of the President, our lawsuit challenging the failure of the White House to preserve and restore millions of missing emails. We first documented the massive loss of White House e-mails in our April 2007 report, WITHOUT A TRACE: The Missing White House Emails and the Violations of the Presidential Records Act.

The latest filing from the Bush administration raises some very troubling questions that the White House clearly does not want to answer. (The filing from the White House and related documents can be found here.) This is how CREW's chief counsel, Anne Weismann, described the situation:

With this new filing, the White House has admitted that although it has long known about the missing emails, it did nothing to recover them, or discover how and why they went missing in the first place. The missing emails are important historical records that belong not to the Bush administration, but to the American people. As a result, the public deserves a full accounting and hopefully, now that the matter is before a federal court, we will get one.

The White House has now admitted that it does not have an effective system for storing and preserving emails. This is no mere technicality; it is this failure that led to the likely destruction of over 10 million email. What the White House has not explained is why it abandoned the electronic record-keeping system used by the prior administration "” a system that properly preserved White House email "” but did not replace it with another effective and appropriate system.

The White House has also admitted that the only safeguard it has to its patently inadequate method for preserving email (dumping them in files that are put on EOP servers) is back-up tape media. These back-up copies, however, are only a "snapshot" of what was on the server at the time of the back-up. In other words they are not comprehensive, as the White House concedes.

Even more troubling, the White House has now admitted that until October 2003, the White House recycled its back-up tapes, which contained the only copies of emails deleted prior to that date. What the White House has not explained is why it changed its policy of preserving all back-up tapes "” instituted in March of 2000 when the Clinton administration discovered that its system did not fully preserve all email from the Office of the Vice President "” at the same time it decided to dismantle the existing electronic record-keeping system, with no replacement at hand.

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Isn't there a law about keeping these things backed up and accessible at all times? If there isn't, there should be. I'm not sure if this is incompetence (the Bush administration has plenty of that) or a deliberate act to cover tracks. It's probably a little of both.

Either way, it we need better oversight laws. I don't see that happening, though.

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There is and it's in the first post.

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And you know what? Any corporate IT group that interpreted a policy of tape reuse to mean wiping data every few weeks with no other backups would be out of a job immediately upon discovery. The whole "standard corporate IT policy" claim is BS.

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Really ... I understand scandal fatigue but this is so obviously breaking the law that I don't understand why it isn't getting more attention in the media. And recycling backup media?!? Hell, they make corporate America jump through hoops for SOX compliance but critical government emails can be deleted without repercussions? Ugh ...

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It would take so much time and money to actually prosecute this that Jeb would be in office by the end and he'd give his brother a pardon. In the end, nothing would come of it. The data won't be recovered. Copies won't be found. It'd be nothing but a collosal waste of taxpayer money.

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What's more, it will fuel the "they covered stuff up!" versus "we lost the details of their heroics!" arguments for decades. It enables the zealots who will argue that the Bush Administration was second only to Reagan's in it's shining brilliance and daring acts of bravery. We literally will not have an unbiased review of that period of the Bush White House - and probably not for the period where they used external mail servers for government work, either.

This is actually arrogance of the highest order. It's the deliberate destruction of history based on the fears of small men who don't wish their thoughts and deeds to come to light.

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Robear wrote:
And you know what? Any corporate IT group that interpreted a policy of tape reuse to mean wiping data every few weeks with no other backups would be out of a job immediately upon discovery. The whole "standard corporate IT policy" claim is BS.

I once worked for a publicly traded company who had some "irregular bookkeeping" about ten years earlier. Our IT department had a huge vault of backup tapes because NASDAQ required us to keep a record of everything--emails, files, etc.--to prevent us from cooking the books again. We had to spend thousands of dollars a month on backup media alone.

It might be a futile exercise to prosecute, but it's important to do it anyway if only to enforce transparency.

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OG_slinger wrote:
It might be a futile exercise to prosecute, but it's important to do it anyway if only to enforce transparency.

Enforce transparency in the most secretive administration in US history?

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In a just society where men aren't kings and the rule of law matters most of the higher-ups (and many of the underlings) of the Bush Jr. Presidency would be in prison right now.

We don't live in a just society.

It's highly likely that Bush will pardon everyone in his administration of any wrongdoing when he leaves office. There also isn't a chance, especially in the current environment of hyper-partisanship, that a former president would ever be charged with all of the crimes that should be leveled against Bush. It just won't happen. The media will amplify the cries of "Witch Hunt!" just for ratings and those of us who seek justice will be left the bad guys.

No legislative official is willing to take that kind of hit.

Now if only Bush had gotten a blow-job...

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Y'know, witch hunts aren't a bad idea when there are real witches. The bad kind, I mean. No offense to my Wiccan friends.

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Tony Fratto actually *denied* that there was any evidence of missing emails yesterday, so the Congressmen doing the investigation unloaded on him. Turns out there was, of course - and it is actually worse than was admitted, since for many of the days where there are backups, it's for 5 or 10 emails as opposed to 60K-100K...

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What's sad is no one is going to get fired or sent to prison over this

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ranalin wrote:
What's sad is no one is going to get fired or sent to prison over this

Of course not. They're all rich. They can afford more justice than you or I.

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