Need AGP video card for Dell Dimension 8300.
Sorry to repost this thread but I'm hoping to hit pay dirt with one of you out there with more knowledge and/or experience.
My old Dell Dimension 8300 with 1.5 mg ram has a dying ATI Radeon 9800 pro in its AGP bus. I'm looking for a replacement that does not require any other mods to my rig (power supply etc.). I want to spend no more than $100.00. The two alternatives I have come upon are:
1. SAPPHIRE 100198L Radeon X1650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $69.99
2. EVGA 256-A8-N542-T2 GeForce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $99.99
I am currently leaning towards GeForce. Any commments? I want to purchase soon so I can get back to Team Fortress.
TIA,
Jayavarman
-Jayavarman
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I'd lean towards the GeForce as well. Wish I could say more. They're both pretty capable budget cards, but I think Nvidia edges ATI out just a bit between the two. I'd expect either to do well enough with TF2.
And both are an upgrade from a 9800 Pro.
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I've been thinking about going back to using my Desktop for some gaming(TF2), but it's still in 9800Pro land while my laptop is muuuuuuuuch better overall, plus it has a 7900GT(I think it's 79, could be 78).
I had no idea I could get such nice AGP cards still, especially for so little money.
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Add this to the mix:
SAPPHIRE 100217L Radeon HD 2600PRO 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 8X HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail $89.99
I'm really having a hard time deciding which one will work best:
-Jayavarman
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Depends on what kinda processor you're packing, but I'll be its going to be the bottleneck no matter which of those cards you choose.
Warrior Asherr
Hunter Ghorin
So, a list of the AGP boards on the market:
SAPPHIRE 100198L Radeon X1650 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $69.99
SAPPHIRE 100217L Radeon HD 2600PRO 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 8X HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail $89.99
EVGA 256-A8-N542-T2 GeForce 7600GS 256MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail $99.99
EVGA 256-A8-N506-AX Geforce 7800GS CO 256MB AGP $168.99
Given that the CPU is going to be my rate limiting step no matter; the GeForce 7800 is overkill I take it?
-Jayavarman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayavarman_VII
I was in a similar situation a while back, went with the 7600GS myself.
Warrior Asherr
Hunter Ghorin
Tom's Hardware charts give the edge to the 2600 Pro over the 7600GS. I'd probably go that way.
I definitely wouldn't spend $170 on a 7800GS, that's "buy a decent modern card" money.
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tits || gtfo
Won't you have problems with the power supply?
There are reports of 7600's working fine in the dimension 8300 250watt psu:
http://www.dellcommunity.com/supportforums/board/message?board.id=dim_vi...
-Jayavarman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayavarman_VII
But, ATI 2600 is reportedly a power sucker and probably isn't going to work with the 250 watts psu as people are recommending 400watts.
So, unless I'm going to replace my power supply. It looks like the GeForce 7600 is the winner.
-Jayavarman
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Where did you get that? This test has the 2600 Pro (not the same thing as the XT!) peaking at a nice low 30W, which compares nicely to the 7600GS at 32 watts.
Straight out of the first link:
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tits || gtfo
Arghhhh !!!. I can't find the link, something I read last night while trying to research this. I believe I was reading about a HIS 2600 Turbo PRO NEW IMPROVED Gran Tourismo 'Ice Cooled' over clocked turbo something or other. (can you tell I'm getting tired of this?).
Seriously, I chose to replace the video card as opposed to replacing the whole rig not so much because of money but I thought it would be a less complicated decision. How many AGP boards are there out there anyway? I got to get back to work. Maybe I just go to Fry's buy something, stick it in and hope it works and call it a day!!!
got to get to work.
-Jaya
-Jayavarman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayavarman_VII
I'm running an X1650 and have no complaints.
Fedaykin98 wrote:
wordsmythe wrote:
You can build a nice low-end system for about $500:
Intel Dual-Core E2180 CPU - $88
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L motherboard - $99
ATI Radeon HD 3850 256MB - $170 (or 512MB for $200)
2GB DDR2 800 RAM - $35
500W power supply - $50
Decent case - $40
Total: $482 (or, quite appropriately, $512 if with 512MB Radeon 3850)
All that's missing from this are drives, input devices, and monitor, which you'd cannibalize out of your Dell.
The E2180 is plenty good by default, and if you want to overclock, you can throw a $20 Arctic Freezer fan on there and clock it up to speeds that perform on par with $200 Core 2 Duo chips.
Most importantly, the P35-based board would allow you to just drop in a Penryn CPU somewhere down the line, and keep the whole machine going a good time longer.
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tits || gtfo
Well, I made a decision: ordered:
100229L Radeon HD 2600XT 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail $114.99
Will post summary after install.
-Jayavarman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayavarman_VII