MS sued over XBox Live outages
Saturday, January 5th, 2008 - 5:39pm
So a huge company actually admits they made a mistake and tries to compensate users for it, and what happens? Some dickwad decides that since MS admitted they did something wrong, they can sue over it.
And this is precisely why no one ever admits anything, ever, and we're utterly shocked when a company shows any sort of honesty.
NOTE: This is not a doodle bug.
I don't really know what to say about it but the live outage is not that big of a deal compared to the failure rate, if anything should have been sued it should have been the failure rate,
This will be thrown out, I don't see it having legs in court.
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I'm still pretty damned annoyed by the entire Live performance issue thing.. but this guy's just stupid.
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I *ahem* haven't actually read them, but sure the terms and conditions for Live explain that down time, outages, etc. are not something you can get your panties in a bunch about, legally. No doubt we've all agreed to let MS off the hook by accepting them when you sign up for your account initially.
I'm just happy they've publicly announced the problems and what they're doing about them, rather than denying everything. A free download as compensation will be nice, too -- though points or a month's credit would be nicer
*edit* from http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/legal/:
Now IANAL, but I'm agreeing with Lothar, can't see how this will get anywhere in court. All it will get is some publicity for these jackasses.
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If you could be sued over an outage to non-essential services, every ISP and Cable company in the nation would be out of business. Hell, even essential things like the electricity go out from time to time, and they aren't held liable for that.
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In a town about 30 miles from me, this happened recently:
These people had all their electrical appliances -- think about how many things you have plugged in, and all the non-obvious electrics in your home: cookers, showers, central heating -- blown up, accidentally, and they might get £50 ($100) and maybe their insurance company, if they have one, will help out.
Buy hey -- I didn't get to play teh haloz last night!
People really piss me off sometimes.
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Buffcore, you've got to wonder how many of those appliances were actually surge protected. Also, that's in England, right? Don't they send energy generated by invisible elves through magic crystals? Hardly parallels the power grid in the real world.
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Yeah, i'm pretty tired of XBL moving like mud but... Christ, can we call a moratorium on BS lawsuits for a month? A week?
Maybe it's me, but I can't imagine a Judge letting a lawsuit that seems to boil down to "I DIDN'T GET TO PLAY TEH HALOZ WAH" get far.
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Frivolous lawsuits like this are a dime a dozen. Frankly, the north american Tort system is nothing short of broken and a waste of everyone's time. It should be a hell of a lot harder to get cases like this to court.
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This is pretty much par for the course for MS. If someone thinks they've found an angle, they all head for what they think is the pot of gold. I remember one guy who sued because a piece of clipart in Publisher 2000 of a couple holding hands in a park was associated with the keyword "monkey bars" and since the couple was not white he was racially offended because he thought that meant they were calling the couple monkeys, rather than referring to the playground equipment behind them. I don't remember if he got anywhere with that or not.
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The thing is, the media likes to report on suits like this being filed because it's sensational and gets people up in arms, but they never do followup stories on how many of them are actually dismissed before they go to court. I'll bet my hat that this one will be dismissed pretty quickly.
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I remember trying to login and getting all sorts of weird errors and such. I told my wife at the time that I wasn't surprised that on Friday evening during Christmas break that Live was getting hammered. Then I watched a movie with her instead. It didn't even occur to me that I should be looking for a handout. But I will enjoy the free XBLA game MS will be giving us anyway.
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To be fair, though, if you call your cable provider and complain about your internet connection or cable being down, they'll usually comp you a day.
Should it be? I can understand making it hard for the case to get into discovery or anything truly expensive, but I think everyone should be able to file a complaint if they feel they've been wronged. I think the real problem is the cost of lawyers on both sides.
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As a law student, I don't really see a problem here.
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This just about sums it up.
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Indeed. The issue is that many people feel it's worth a shot, maybe even the corporation will just settle out of court to avoid a lengthy procedure that contributes to bad PR. I think the solution is not to make it harder to file these suits, but to have a harsh punishment imposed if they're found to be without merit, especially if they're continously filed by the same party.
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If Live is so important to these people, I think the outcome of should be decided by a Halo 3 deathmatch.
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That may turn out to be costly, because you would have to bring everyone to one place for a LAN so they could connect.
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Indeed.
Hell, someone on a forum linked to a comic that made sense and was even kinda funny. 2008 is gonna be a good year!
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I hope MS doesn't settle...they will, but I really hope they don't. Nothing would please me more than to have their lawyer gouge the hell out of them for money and have the judge throw the case out. Then while I am playing my free downloadalble game from MS they wont be able to pay their electric bills which in theory would speed up my xbox live.
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Elysium wrote:
I must be dense. It's not the body that's coming up with the obnoxious behavior. If you put it in another 'non-abusive' body, it's still the same dumb ass brain in a different meat sack. Problem not solved.
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You think they have all those lawyers on retainer so's they can give money to yahoos who bring dumbass lawsuits like this forward? I disagree.
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It happens all the time with big companies. Sometimes the extended period of bad press that a court battle seems to illicit is not worth the money they would shell out if they settled...hence a lot of companies settle due to cost benefit analysis.
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Elysium wrote:
I think you are overestimating how big this case really is.
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Perhaps...
Only time will tell!
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http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/14/lawsuit-forces-microsoft-to-stay-mum-...
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The pending lawsuit is just a convenient excuse.
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