PC game acquisition process

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Just listened to the January 2nd show and Certis constant mentioníng of The Witcher finally got to me and I resolved to play it since it sounds right up my street. Whilst in work during the morning I was musing on how I had managed to miss this game completely and it dawned on me that this was a PC exclusive title. When I got home I looked across my games shelf and saw the last game I bought boxed for the PC...Europa Universalis III. Now...excuse my penchant for the esoteric strategy titles, the important thing here is that this game was released (in the UK at least) about 9-12 months ago.

However, this wasn't the last PC game I had actually purchased, that honour goes to Company of Heroes: Opposing force - on Steam. The one before that being The Burning Crusade -which I upgraded directly with Blizzard on my account page for WoW (Okay, I know neither of these are that new, my point is that I've purchased games recently...just not physical copies).

It hadn't occurred to me until this moment that I have inadvertently switched to a purely digital distribution process for acquiring my PC games. I haven't bought Crysis yet (despite having a machine that can run it) because I just don't look at the PC shelf in game anymore. I kind of assume that if a game is worth having, I can get it on Steam, EA Link, Stardock Central or some other direct download process.

I haven't picked up the Witcher yet. If it were available on Steam right now, I'd buy it within a heartbeat, but actually going and buying a box, from a shop, where physical money changes hands, just seems so...primitive.

Why should I pay money for a disc I will use ONCE to copy the game onto my hard disc, then be forced to insert every time I play the game for some copy protection process that will likely break when I look at my pc the wrong way?

Buying digitally (at least on Steam) I'm protected against the loss of the original disc and I don't need to locate the damn thing every time I need to play.

What are other peoples thoughts on digital downloads? Have you embraced the new way entirely or do you still need a physical product to make the purchase seem worthwhile?

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Or a certain program could load an image of the disk in to some kind of purely hypothetical virtual drive.
Just saying.

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I bought the Orange Box over Christmas Break and the process was flawless.

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You can get The Witcher through digital download right now.

I'm a big fan, but I need to feel that I trust the store. EA Link changed their terms of service, and now only let you download your game for 6 months, or 2 years for an extra $6. I'm not a big fan of that, and will never be buying any digital content from EA. I trust Valve, and the steam service, so I have no problems buying through them.

While I do like a physical box, the need to have a disk in the drive is a big draw back for me, as I play games at home and work, and being able to have the games I own at either place without needing to haul around a disk is a huge plus for me. I get annoyed when there's not a digital version of something available, or it's tied to a shady service. I personally wish every PC title was released on steam along with retail.

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Atari also has The Witcher up on their download service as well.

I'm usually a bit of a laggard when it comes to new technology. I think I'm the last person I know who bought a DVD player. I just never see the appeal. However, I've jumped on the digital download setup easily. I never saw the appeal of having tons of boxes cluttering up my shelves. In fact, as soon as I buy a physical copy of a game and I install it, the CD gets put in a sleeve and the manual and box are thrown in the trash.

I already download all music available in that format, so games were just as easy to transfer to. Unfortunately a good amount of games still aren't available that way. I know plenty of people still hesitant to do it though. Worries about how some companies won't let you download again after a certain period. EA Link is the worst unless they changed it recently. You can't download it after six months AND they don't let you save it on a backup disc. The kinks are still getting worked out. Yes, there is concern that the distributor might go out of business, but you could say the same thing about the publisher of a physical copy, and/or you lose or damage the disc a few years down the line. I also like the growing appeal of downloading older games as well. Buying a 5 year old title off Steam is far better process to me than buying some scratchy disc off someone on email exploiting the rarity of the game with a high price.

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Lack of distribution over Steam is the only thing keeping me from picking up World in Conflict right now

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The major drawback for me is that I can't resell the game on ebay if I buy it on Steam. That's a big loss if it's a game with limited replay value like Bioshock or Crysis. I paid $39 for Crysis and sold it on ebay for $30.

Other than that, I love Steam. It was the only way I could get Civ IV Beyond the Sword the day it released.

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Digital distribution is the way to go. There have been a couple of games that I've wanted to get, but never did because I'd either have to go to a store (and hope they have it in stock) or order online and wait days to get it. On the other hand, I've made a couple of 'impulse' buys off of Steam. It's so easy to see something that peaks your interest and, bingo bango, you're playing it in an hour or so.

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I used to buy games for the manuals, but now-a-days I only get collector's edition of a game that I want if I found out that it actually got good additional contents in it.

As for digital distribution the ones that I really trust and use are Stardock's Totalgaming Network, Steam, and Gamersgate. I tried EA's offering, but paying extra for the "privilege" to download the game after 6 month of the initial purchase didn't sit too well for me. As for the rest, I avoid like a plague because of the DRM schemes that they use...

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I don't know, I guess I am still in the stone age a bit. I like the idea of digital distribution, but I have a very hard time buying something that I can't hold in my hands (for the sake of this topic). Even though I also have boxes upon boxes of games I have bought for the PC in the past sitting on a shelving unit collecting dust, I find it reassuring that I have a physical object that I paid real money for. I know that I can install Baldurs Gate right now, or in five years with no hassles except having a compatible operating system.

I really am a collector at heart though, I still have old Nintendo Power magazines and have never traded in a game, or book.

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I use virtual drives for my physical games that require disks, it makes things insanely easier.
The boxes are lined up in my dorm room where they sit as an homage to largest money suck of my life behind booze, games.

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I don't like digital distribution. I'll stick to CDs and DVDs for games when I can.

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but I have a very hard time buying something that I can't hold in my hands (for the sake of this topic). Even though I also have boxes upon boxes of games I have bought for the PC in the past sitting on a shelving unit collecting dust, I find it reassuring that I have a physical object that I paid real money for.

I'm not sure how it works, but Steam has a menu item in My Games called "Back up game files" - I would assume this is so you can burn a backup of the game, just in case. I could be wrong, though, but you could hold your burned backup if you wanted.

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I love, love, love digital distribution. Boxes are just wastes of space - I prefer to keep my CD's in binders anyways. If you're into collecting, try stamps - you'll thank me next time you move
Minimalism aside, my favorite thing is not having to go to a physical store. Game stores exude the same vibe as adult video stores, both in terms of decor, staff, clientelle, and odor. I cringe when I walk by the EB in the mall. Best Buy I don't mind, but it's ridiculously out of my way. There is nothing like pre-loading a game on steam and then playing it ASAP on release.

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Yellow5 wrote:
You can get The Witcher through digital download right now

The Witcher download

This product is only available for purchase in North America.

I can't

Yellow5 wrote:
EA Link changed their terms of service

I TOTALLY missed them doing that, I last purchased Battlefield 2142 from them and they didn't have that restriction

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The major drawback for me is that I can't resell the game on ebay if I buy it on Steam. That's a big loss if it's a game with limited replay value like Bioshock or Crysis. I paid $39 for Crysis and sold it on ebay for $30.

I can see why digital distribution isn't desirable in this scenario. For someone like me, who is still holding games like System Shock 1 and Rama or Blade Runner and Medieval Total War, and actually likes to return to them every so often, Digital takes up much less space.

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Quintin_Stone wrote:
I don't like digital distribution. I'll stick to CDs and DVDs for games when I can.

Same here.

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kuddles wrote:
Atari also has The Witcher up on their download service as well

I totally didn't realise they had one, I've now located it for the lovely price of 24.99 with what looks like very little, if any, DRM

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If you buy something over EA link, it just downloads the same installer that you get on the DVD. Once it decrypts the downloaded file, you can go into its cache and burn it to a disk. Unfortunately you don't get a CD key, so the only way to reinstall is to copy the files you burned from the disk back into it's cache, and run the installer through EA Link. It's annoying, but it works just fine and it means you don't ever have to worry about their 6-month download restriction.

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kuddles wrote:
Atari also has The Witcher up on their download service as well

That brings up the trust issue for me: I don't trust Atari to be around in a couple years: I'm not even sure they'll be around in 6 months. Typically these digital services require some sort of activation through company servers.

Switchbreak wrote:
If you buy something over EA link, it just downloads the same installer that you get on the DVD. Once it decrypts the downloaded file, you can go into its cache and burn it to a disk.

Except that negates one of the big advantages of digital downloads: no disk to keep track of. I have an even harder time keeping track of burned disks then I do with commercial disks. Again: trust. If a company is willing to change the TOS in such a dramatic way, I'm unwilling to give them my money. There's no telling what changes they might make in the future. What if they decide that reinstalling will require a service charge at some future point?

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Yellow5 wrote:
That brings up the trust issue for me: I don't trust Atari to be around in a couple years: I'm not even sure they'll be around in 6 months. Typically these digital services require some sort of activation through company servers.

This brings up my biggest worry with digital distribution - completely losing my games because some obscure DRM company has gone under. Even if a disc has its own DRM scheme, it's still more likely to work than a game that has to post back to some distant server that no longer exists to verify that a digital download is valid - not to mention that if you happen to format your hard drive without backing up that digital copy after the company has gone under, that's curtains for that game.

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boogle wrote:
...where they sit as an homage to largest money suck of my life...

You too?!

I'm going to agree with the virtual drive avenue. I enjoy having the boxes, manuals etc. to occasionally look at or just gaze in awe at the collection that is brewing. Of course I inevitably end up just referring to it as the "stack" since most of them never get finished.

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Yellow5 wrote:

That brings up the trust issue for me: I don't trust Atari to be around in a couple years: I'm not even sure they'll be around in 6 months. Typically these digital services require some sort of activation through company servers.

The Atari service doesn't require it. In fact, most services don't after an initial one to let you download the files in the first place, and the ones that do (like Steam) are the ones I trust to provide an official crack should the worst case scenario occur.

I don't understand how anyone can be paranoid about that stuff anyways. Chances of a download service going under and there being no workaround are pretty slim, in my opinion.

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Stryker wrote:
boogle wrote:
...where they sit as an homage to largest money suck of my life...

You too?!

I'm going to agree with the virtual drive avenue. I enjoy having the boxes, manuals etc. to occasionally look at or just gaze in awe at the collection that is brewing. Of course I inevitably end up just referring to it as the "stack" since most of them never get finished.

I only add games to 'the stack' if I'm done or it's the game I'm currently working on. Otherwise it's like lying.

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Back in the olden tymes the only way in my country to play great games was by pirating. I'm in the habit of buying the games I liked back then partially as an atonement and also as a collector's items - I love the old games with thick manuals. Nowadays, only few games really have astonishing packaging, so I'm willing to go the way of digital download. I buy PC games only when there is no digital alternative or they are quite old and not available online. Also, some great games are download-only: expansions for EU III, Hearts of Iron 2, many great indies (Democracy 2, Steam Brigade), Gemoetry Wars etc.
That said, I still love game boxes, quality manuals, but they are rarely produced nowadays like they used to be. And I'm willing to buy only so many collector's editions a year to satisfy my hunger. Last time it was Dreamfall, boxed together with Longest Journey and an artbook. Nice pack, great games.

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buzzvang wrote:
Lack of distribution over Steam is the only thing keeping me from picking up World in Conflict right now

If you don't mind GamersGate download service, you can play World in Conflict right now.

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Atari also has The Witcher up on their download service as well.

Yes, but I've read some comments and it's not a very good service.

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I don't mind the "I can't sell my games" thing. If I really need to, I suppose I can sell my account.

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Mex wrote:
Yes, but I've read some comments and it's not a very good service.

I've used it about three times now and haven't had a single issue :shrug:

But yes, Direct2Drive, GamersGate and Metaboli also have The Witcher as well. So I'm kind of annoyed that Steam couldn't get it. Is it because they're a "possibly competing" developer or what? It just confuses me how so many games that seem like a perfect fit for the typical Steam audience end up appearing practically everywhere except Steam.

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I like seeing the little box sitting nicely on my shelf next to my other games. I think having nothing but used hard drive space to show for $50 hurts the wallet more.

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kuddles wrote:
Mex wrote:
Yes, but I've read some comments and it's not a very good service.

I've used it about three times now and haven't had a single issue :shrug:

But yes, Direct2Drive, GamersGate and Metaboli also have The Witcher as well. So I'm kind of annoyed that Steam couldn't get it. Is it because they're a "possibly competing" developer or what? It just confuses me how so many games that seem like a perfect fit for the typical Steam audience end up appearing practically everywhere except Steam.

I think it's because they have to write a custom installer for Steam, where at other services they just send you basically the same files as the CD, with the DRM removed, and they don't want to spend the extra five minutes.

Actually, for really large games, I like to get them from other services, because Steam forces you to install to the same hard drive that it is on.

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Switchbreak wrote:

Actually, for really large games, I like to get them from other services, because Steam forces you to install to the same hard drive that it is on.

Honestly that's one of my biggest complaints about steam, I wish it didn't force you to install on the same hard drive but it does so it just really sucks if you are running out of room on one hard drive and want to install the game on the other hard drive

o well though I hope that's one thing that they let you do eventually.

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