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Location: Columbia, MD

Is it normal to be extremely anxious?

My wife and I found a nice little townhome for $255k, and the interest rate (fixed) is going to be 6-something... I'm not entirely sure because it dropped from where it was a couple days back (6.75%). The owners accepted our offer about 30 minutes ago.

I'm excited that we'll finally own our home, but I'll admit, it scares me. There's so much more to worry about.

Gotta jump in the water some time though. Now to go sign away a quarter of a million dollars.

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PurEvil wrote:
Now to go sign away a quarter of a million dollars.

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That's assuming 0 Down and a 30 yr note. Does that help the stress?

But yeah, isn't buying a house supposedly the second most stressful event in an average person's life? For whatever that's worth.

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LiquidMantis wrote:

But yeah, isn't buying a house supposedly the second most stressful event in an average person's life? For whatever that's worth.

what's number 1? I bet it's waiting for Publisher's Clearance House to come knocking.

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Congratulations! Buying your first home (or, really, any home) is a big deal. Some good advice I got once was to hire your own inspector, rather than use the one recommended by your agent. While you may have a good agent, you need to remember that the agent's motivation is to see the sale go through, he/she may (intentionally or not) pick an inspector who tends to gloss over potential issues.

On the other hand, when your inspector finds things you need to be very level-headed about what it all means. No house is perfect, so there will probably be things the inspector finds. Try to figure out what each really means to you, in the context of the overall house purchase. If there are a few things that need fixing but can be handled for a few hundred dollars, don't even raise those with the seller (you're paying a few hundred thousand dollars). For anything more significant (but not worth walking away over), either have the seller discount the purchase price by the expected cost of repairs or put some of the purchase price an escrow you can draw againt to make repairs (with the remainder going to the seller). Even though it may seem like a hassle to have the repairs done yourself (you want to move into a perfect place), there is a certain comfort that comes from knowing that you had the repairs done right, instead of wondering whether the seller (who just wants to get this over with) cut any corners in the repairs.

Anyway, I didn't mean to badger you about inspections and such. Seriously, congratulations on the purchase.

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Within the last 20 months I've met my wife, had a kid, moved, and changed jobs. Whatever number 1 is, I think I've got it covered.

But back on topic, congratulations! Closings are stressful, but at least for me the benefits of owning a home far outweigh the detriments. There's a whole different feel when it's YOUR place. When you beat on the neighbor kids, you're doing it because you don't like them, not because you have some weird suck-up thing going with your landlord.

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Congrats Pur!

You sound like your in the same position I was 6 months ago when I bought my townhome. One thing to think about is a home warranty company. Usually the seller pays and it can come in handy if some big maintanence thing comes up.

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Congratulations! As scary as it may seem now, it will all feel entirely worth it the first time that sit on the couch with your wife and look around thinking "This is mine.

We are about to move out of the first house that we bought. It's crappy, but we love it. The fact that it has gained £100,000 in 6 years helps!

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I remember a coworker of mine telling me how he signed the contract to his house, then proceeded to throw up on the way home. Now his house is paid for, and he's fixed it up really nice.

It is certainly a nerve wracking experience, but that goes away, and then you are just faced with endless upkeep. That keeps your mind off the mortgage.

Honestly, though, owning your own home is wonderful. Congrats!

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Congrats Pur! The SO and I will be looking to take the plunge sometime in the next 12 months, as well. Glad to hear the good news.

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Additional congratulations from me My SO and I purchased our first house this April, and while it was stressful at the time it was definitely worth it, we're so happy here compared to the various flats and houses we'd rented in the past.

spider_j wrote:
Congratulations! As scary as it may seem now, it will all feel entirely worth it the first time that sit on the couch with your wife and look around thinking "This is mine.

^^ This is the exact feeling that makes it all worthwhile. Even with the leaky kitchen roof and unintentionally bare floors

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Congrats, Pur & Kiri!
We just closed on our house on the 17th. So I know where you're coming from. So much money disappearing away and a bundle of bricks & dirt to tie you to one spot for the forseeable future!

We went with a tracker, actually. The bank was running a deal for a lifetime tracker at a certain percentage above BoE, so we signed up, thinking the rates would drop over the next 12 months and we could lock into a fixed-rate mortgage at a lower interest rate.

Also, knowing the area, I'm glad you found something affordable. Where abouts exactly?

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Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Congratulations PurEvil. I have a similar situation coming up. My girlfriend and I are currently living in a townhouse she and her sister bought brand new 10 years ago. Her sister recently got married and in March, we either have to buy out her half at market value or find another place. We looked around some but couldn't find a place in our range that wasn't either smaller or needed lots of work. This house is a piece of crap Richcraft Homes pre-fab but it does the job alright and we figure we can make some improvements over the next while.

Housing prices here in Ottawa are going through the roof (20% average increase last year alone) and we're looking at around a $260,000 mortgage. Property taxes here are also skyrocketing because of our inept city government. It scares the crap out of me frankly but like others have said, I'm also kind of excited at the prospect and the thought of having a place we can truly call ours. It's going to be great I think. Just yeah...paying for it...

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Congrats on your house!

I think the rectal probe the bank wants you to volunteer for is more stressful. We had a good loan officer who got us pre-approved for the amount we were looking for. We found the house and had 99% of our paperwork into the bank a month before close. Our problem was the house we bought was a foreclosure, and the bank holding the property didn't sign off on the closing day. So, we had to wait a day to get the keys. Now, had we been one day late, they wanted to charge us X dollars a day past the agreed closure date. That bank gets a big F-U

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Pur, as someone who bought his first burrow earlier this year, I can say yes, it is extraordinarily stressful. Dealing with realtors is a pain in the ass, dealing with lawyers is a pain in the ass, closing fees are absolutely infuriating (I'm paying him HOW MUCH to make photocopies!?), and working out your budget with the mortgage payment in there is horrifying. Moving is a collosal pain in the ass. Something will go wrong (my water heater sprung a leak 4 days after I'd closed, before I'd even used the hot water). You will have moments of doubt and moments of regret, because you've just invested yourself in something huge. It's normal. Just remind yourself that as long as you make your monthly payments, you're way ahead of the vast majority of Americans and you're investing in a secure financial future of which you have full control. By the time you start recognizing your new place as your "home" in your dreams, you'll know it was all worth it.

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Location: Columbia, MD

Haakon7 wrote:
Congrats, Pur & Kiri!

Um.... Kiri is Robear's wife. My wife doesn't take much interest in message boards, though I've tried to lure her here a few times.

The townhome is located in Columbia, pretty close to where I-95 meets I-32, though far enough away so that you wouldn't know that if you didn't know the area. Since I currently work over in Gaithersburg, I've become a lot more focused on finding a job closer to home... I really don't want that drive to work every day, even for what I make now ($14.77/hr just isn't enough for me to spend close to 3 hours in traffic every day). We'll be pretty close to Ft. Meade though, so I'm putting in my resume over there for any job they might hire me for.

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Housing prices here in Ottawa are going through the roof (20% average increase last year alone) and we're looking at around a $260,000 mortgage. Property taxes here are also skyrocketing because of our inept city government.

Sounds like the same market here. $255 was on the cheaper end of the homes our realtor kept sending us.

Since a few people have mentioned some of this stuff, we asked $255k (their asking price) with 6% back for closing costs (around $11k). It should take care of the taxes, first year of warranty, insurance, etc. We met face to face with our loan officer at our realtor's office, so that together we could work out all the numbers without having to play phone tag. He gave us all the numbers, worked out what our monthly payments should be (with HOA and stuff, though it'll be a tad bit lower now), so at least we have a firm idea on that.

The funny thing is, a few weeks back we put in the exact same offer on another town home on that block, which was listed at $269,900. His counter offer was $275k if he had to pay the closing we were asking for. His was more run down, and required more major work to it before we'd be happy moving in. With this home, there was another person bidding for it, but apparently they had been negotiating for a much lower price than we were for the last couple weeks. The only thing they didn't like about our offer was the closing date (originally late-Feb to be safe), which we bumped up a month, and they accepted immediately. I kinda wish we would have put in a slighly lower offer, but then again, we might have lost the home if we had.

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Location: The Netherlands, hopefully soon in Canada

buying a house is an exciting thing!
The deal is done, so I won't bug you with good
buying advise lol
Good luck with it!!!!!

oh, try to dump money as much as you can into your mortgage.
Will save you lotsa money in the end!!

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It's only scary for a week or so. Then you start the never ending to-do list and you won't have time to be scared.

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Ugh. I was just at a purchasing office for a new development going up in my area. Sounds like a good deal, if I had the $43k on hand up front. Around me, 900 sq. ft. condos start at about $350-400k for marginally crappy ones, and are closer to 450 for a decent one.

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Location: Columbia, MD

Yellow5 wrote:
Ugh. I was just at a purchasing office for a new development going up in my area. Sounds like a good deal, if I had the $43k on hand up front. Around me, 900 sq. ft. condos start at about $350-400k for marginally crappy ones, and are closer to 450 for a decent one.

We've been through that. We were looking at some townhomes being built about a quarter mile away from our current appartment (we're fairly close to DC, which doesn't help), and they wanted $450k for the cheaper ones, with about $20k down, on top of about $15k-$20k in closing costs and taxes. We stopped looking altogether for quite a while after that.

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Mrs. Pur called me one the phone almost immediately after the signing and wanted to know what my availability was for Late January. Apparently, she needs strong backs and weak minds to help her move. Congrats to both of you.

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PurEvil wrote:
Haakon7 wrote:
Congrats, Pur & Kiri!

Um.... Kiri is Robear's wife. My wife doesn't take much interest in message boards, though I've tried to lure her here a few times.

My fault. Apologies to anyone who was offended by the above statement.
I knew that, but that's what you get when you post in haste. Or as I like to call it 'posthaste.'

Caveat: This error in no way diminishes the congratulations extended.

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Congrats! I bought my own first home, a condo actually, a year and a half ago. I love looking around and calling this place mine. I wish I had had more cash for a down payment, but such is life and debt and bills and such. I wish I had bought on an upswing in the housing market instead of a downswing, just for safety's sake. But hopefully I can wait out the current lull.

So when's the GWJ Slap & Tickle house party at pur's, eh? Eh!?

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Here is a good question. Did you choose high points in exchange for lower interest rate or did you go mid road or low road on the points. For me looking at buying my first home it's the difference of nearly $4k on closing costs alone looking at a difference of 1% on fixed interest over all (30 year). All the calculations I do say I will break even on that initial 4 grand at around the 7 year mark but 4 grand right now is more difficult to come up with since I would still need to pay for movers, paint, fixing stuff and have some left over just in case something big breaks.

So high points or low points? Keep in mind that housing in my area is around the $150,000 mark.

P.S. On a side note it pisses me off that a new construction home that is 1600 sq ft costs as much as a 2200 sq ft home that is 20 years old. Even though it's older that much less space irks me. It's not like people have gotten smaller since the 80's.

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Location: Columbia, MD

0 point 30 year fixed. I don't think either of us really plan to retire in this home, so we weren't worried about the long term benefits of the points. Eventually we'd like to move to a quieter area, since we both grew up in small towns, and we don't really care for the big city atmosphere here... we just know we hate renting, hate having so little space, and hate having to worry about what some apartment agent has to say about what we do in our own place. We're also looking forward to no pet deposits or extra rent for our animals (3 cats, 1 dog).

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extra rent for animals?? wow, what a bs to get more money from people!
Anyway, owning your own place is one of the best investments you can do.
Providing you can keep up with the mortgage and maintenance

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Congrats on the house! Me and the GF are currently house shopping but unfortunately just about half the houses we have looked at have smelled so bad we couldn't even get a full tour. I just cannot imagine how a house could be on the market and smell THAT bad!

I'd say that we are looking at the midrange market too, not the lower end. 150-180kish, the high end of the town being 350ish. Ok, so maybe it's not just mid-range but it's the best we could afford for now

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Congrats Pur'! I know you have been wanting to do this for awhile, so very cool it's finally going to happen. Good luck with it everything!

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Sparhawk wrote:
extra rent for animals?? wow, what a bs to get more money from people!

Yeah, in our current situation, we're supposed to pay a $350 non-refundable deposit, and an extra $24/mo for each animal we bring into the apartment. We have a dog, and three cats... thankfully we talked our way out of all but one pet deposit, and we kinda wiggled out of the pet rent. Still, if they ever caught on, they could evict us... all the more reason to get the hell outta here.

As it is, we're using fear to get out of our lease early. There's a family that just moved in directly below us, and their kid likes to smoke pot in the back stairwell (no windows, easy to hide in there). It caused a lot of issues for my wife, especially after just having open heart surgery. She went up there and complained a number of times, and one of the last times the manager said she'd let us out of our lease, no questions asked. We're pretty sure they're afraid we'll take legal action against them, since the kid is still doing it, he's just being more discreet about it, and they're really not doing anything.

The whole neighborhood went to sh*t in the last couple years we've been there, so I'm not upset about leaving it to rot.

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Me and the GF are currently house shopping but unfortunately just about half the houses we have looked at have smelled so bad we couldn't even get a full tour. I just cannot imagine how a house could be on the market and smell THAT bad!

Thankfully we only had one like that. The whole place spelled like stale piss. Though, even if it hadn't, it wouldn't have worked out for us. The layout was horrible. The entire kitchen was about 4'x5', because the washer/dryer and the utility closet were both in the kitchen (neither with doors on them). There was a bar opening up the kitchen to where we'd have to put our couch due to the way the living room was set up, and the dining room was on the other side of the living room. It was a "3 bedroom" place, but it was more like 1 cramped bedroom, and 2 fairly small offices (smaller than the kitchen). Whoever designed that layout needs to go back to school.

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Congrats Pur and Mrs. Pur! This is so exciting. We just bought our free standing townhome about 15 months ago and I love it. Not to mention we went from a one bedroom apartment to a 3 bedroom place that we can call our own. I, fortunately, didn't have to deal with much of the paperwork since my sweet husband (fiance at the time) took care of most everything.