New Radiohead Album

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Woohoo!

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If you don't want to pay for all the extra stuff, you can simply download the songs on October 10th. How much does it cost? YOU DECIDE. Radiohead is letting you choose how much to pay. No really, it's up to you.

They're crazy.

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doihaveto wrote:
Woohoo!

Article wrote:
DOWNLOAD
If you don't want to pay for all the extra stuff, you can simply download the songs on October 10th. How much does it cost? YOU DECIDE. Radiohead is letting you choose how much to pay. No really, it's up to you.

They're f*cking awesome.

I support this new model of business.

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Oh hells yes.

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You decide what you pay? Wow. You know I bet the average album price comes out to be around $8-$12. I personally depending on the how good the album is would pay about $10 or 5 pounds UK. I wish you could stream it and listen to it first before buying it. After all if the album sucks (I know it's Radiohead and I know the chances of it sucking are pretty minimal) then maybe it's only worth $4 or something. Is this only on the pre-order?

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That's great news and because it's Radiohead and something great like that, I will support them with no problem

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what a nice surprise!
too bad the discbox is pretty expensive, because I really want one

edit:
I'm weak when it comes to Radiohead, I just preordered it =\

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As much as I would love the discbox, I have no need for the vinyl records. Plus, it won't ship until "on or before" December 3rd (I suppose that means it could ship the same day as the digital version but, really, why even mention December 3rd then?). So it's the digital download for me, with the hope that a physical version will be released to stores in not too long.

Edit: Or maybe I won't be getting either; the Verified by Visa system (something I haven't encountered in years) is rejecting my card. Curses.

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I'm not a big Radiohead fan, but damn this is a very very cool way to release an album. Plus, announcing it 10 days prior minimizes the hype and hyperbole...

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kilroy0097 wrote:
I wish you could stream it and listen to it first before buying it. After all if the album sucks (I know it's Radiohead and I know the chances of it sucking are pretty minimal) then maybe it's only worth $4 or something.

Is there anyone keeping someone from buying it for little or nothing, and then buying it again once they have an idea of how much they value it?

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doihaveto wrote:
Woohoo!

Article wrote:
DOWNLOAD
If you don't want to pay for all the extra stuff, you can simply download the songs on October 10th. How much does it cost? YOU DECIDE. Radiohead is letting you choose how much to pay. No really, it's up to you.

They're crazy.

After hearing Trent Reznor discuss the possibility of releasing future albums like that, I'm convinced that it's the only thing that really makes sense for album sales today. People who value the physical product will continue to pay for it. With the ease of p2p downloading, the only thing causing people who don't value the physical product to pay is simple honesty. No amount of effort from the band or the label will change that, so why not embrace it and generate some good will along the way? The end result is the same, except now you've got the eyeballs on your band's site instead of some shady Scandinavian torrent site.

Edit: Jeepers! I just read the whole blurb at the linked site and saw that they're now officially unsigned. The release strategy makes more sense now. It was amazing to think of a label actually signing off on that.

Anyway, good for them. I hope this album is a big success. Not that we need more evidence of the obsolescence of the music industry, but a win here would be the strongest to date.

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Did they cease selling them now? The only active link on the web site is to their homepage. If I've missed the box set I won't be a happy camper.

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I can't find any information on what format the download will be in mp3? AAC? Ogg? WMA?

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I'm not a huge Radiohead fan, but I'll admit I haven't given them much of a chance. Can I download the album and then decide how much to pay later?

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wordsmythe, you dirty skimmer... As someone pointed out, there is nothing preventing you from buying the album for 0.1c (or maybe even free) then later on buying it for the price you think it's worth.

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It looks like 0.45 british pounds is the minimum price (as that's their credit card fee). I tried 6 lbs at first, and then adjusted to 5.55 lbs to account for the transaction fee. $12 sounds about right to me for an album... and Radiohead's cut of that $12 should be pretty high compared to a store bought CD.

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I really want the box set. But man I just can't justify $80USD for that. $40USD and it'd probably be a no-brainer.

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I'll be glad to pay $0.00 for a Radiohead album.
Edit: 1/2 a british pound! OVERPRICED

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MoonDragon wrote:
wordsmythe, you dirty skimmer... As someone pointed out, there is nothing preventing you from buying the album for 0.1c (or maybe even free) then later on buying it for the price you think it's worth.

Just because I didn't follow the link doesn't mean I'm a skimmer. Danjo's suggestion I only missed because it took me 3 hours to actually bother reading the rest of the page. I don't post as fast as I did back in my younger years!

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I heard about this on the radio today.

Opinion:

I like the idea and hope it works. Why you ask, well from what (little) I understand about the music industry most artists receive a small portion (lets say 10%) of the actual sale price of a CD when the end consumer buys it. Most CD's are at the $15 ~ $18 dollar range. Lets say in the ideal world then and based on my assumptions the artist receives $2.00 for the sale of a single CD. Sadly that leaves a lot of middle men (and woman) profiting for distribution and other things that have a history of little cost control and benefit to the artist.

With so many people into the MP3 / downloading / portable music player thing now, this just is a win for the artist and the fans.

I hope people pay $4 ~ $10 for the download and radiohead makes more than they would have with the record company deal, there is substantially less headache involved, the fans get what they want and the most important item, the record companies, lables, distributors, and the lot of people that used to make money realize their model is dying and they need to make some changes.

If people can get what they like, in a manner in which they like it, overall they will pay a fair price.

I hope this works.

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wordsmythe wrote:
I'm not a huge Radiohead fan, but I'll admit I haven't given them much of a chance. Can I download the album and then decide how much to pay later?

OK Computer is one of the best rock albums of all time. Just sayin'.

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wordsmythe wrote:
Can I download the album and then decide how much to pay later?

Hear, hear.

If I were to go back and pay retroactively based on the meaning The Bends and OK Computer have held for me over the years, hundreds wouldn't be enough. I wouldn't give them a plugged nickel for Kid A or Amnesiac, although HTTT, easily their best since OK Computer, has been steadily growing on me. That one might be worth the price of a regular CD.

My biggest complaint with Radiohead is that they're too image conscious. They refuse to conform to popular tastes to such an extent that their music is becoming as artistically irrelevant as those who are slaves to it. Either way you let the mainstream define you.

Look at Pablo Honey. When Creep took off, they didn't follow it up with an album of sound-alikes, they instead wrote an album about how awful it was to be expected to write an album full of Creep sound-alikes, particularly the track My Iron Lung. When The Bends then became the definative alternative rock album, they followed it up with an album which, musically, was almost a complete departure. When OK Computer took over for The Bends as the album, they came out with Kid A. When everyone figured they'd finally settled on a direction, they stepped back a bit with Hail To The Thief.

Reactions to reactions to reactions to reactions. Inevitably, they've suffered for it. Radiohead is a stagnant band. OK Computer was the last truly progressive album they made. Everything since has been them experimenting in established if obscure genres, and it's not like any of their work in those genres has been pioneering or influential. It's more like they've been raiding the pantries of electronica, ambient, and other styles, lazily passing this off as some sort of bold artistic statement rather than forging their own identity.

They're still the most talented rock band in the world. Here's hoping they remember.

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I just paid 20 pounds for the preorder download. For two reasons.

1: I don't care who hates what, by play-hours, these guys have a larger than normal shelf allocation in my listening head.
2: I want to reward them with what I can afford. $40 is my music allowance for the month. So that's it for October pretty much.

I think reacting immediately and positively to things we support is important. It's for this reason I swamped itunes+ when it came out with a backlog of stuff I'd wanted but refused to buy through the store because my freaking Treo won't play protected AAC files. It's the same reason I went ahead and bought Year Zero even though I had most of the tracks of the net (legitimately) for free, and didn't think it was anywhere NEAR there best work.

I also have high hopes that, having NO clue whats on this album, it surprises me.

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<3 Radiohead

This just reaffirms how much I like them.

Locdog. C'mon, guy. Kid A is the album responsible for my entry into the Radiohead universe, so I think whether or not you agree with the bands bureaucratic schemings, Kid A and Amnesiac have some really great artistic value. Idioteque is an amazing song. So are Treefingers, Pyramid Song, and How to Disappear Completely.

Also, I think the stagnation comment was a little below the belt.

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I think you and I are just approaching this from a fundamentally different standpoint. I'm looking at this from the perspective of a long-time fan, so naturally we're going to see things differently.

I will say, however, that I think my views are entirely defensible. They're pretty much a reitteration of the views held by most Radiohead fans. If anything, they're a little trite. Certainly nothing below the belt.

You probably realize that you are a bit atypical when it comes to Radiohead fans. Try looking at Kid A not as a stand-alone album, but as a link in a chain. It might not make you agree with me, but perhaps you will be able to better appreciate why many of us have been frustrated by their recent efforts.

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Eh, I think they're boring and depressing, but to each his own. I'm still really interested in how this turns out. What if it fails? Is music doomed? They're still pretty popular, aren't they?

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Your frustration is something I understand, but, as you predicted, I still don't agree. From my perspective, it seems as though the frustration stems from an attachment to Radiohead as guitar-driven rock. I think musical evolution is an important thing in the life of any artist, and that is what I see Kid A as.

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outoffeelinsobad wrote:
I think musical evolution is an important thing in the life of any artist...

I wouldn't say my attachment is completely to Radiohead as guitar-driven rock, although that's certainly a part of it. OK Computer relied on guitar far less than The Bends, but was a superior album. I think my main problem--aside from the fact that I simply don't like ambient, electronica, and so forth--is that it's not like Radiohead is reinventing or even reinvigorating these genres. They're simply rehashing stuff that other artists have been doing for years, however new it may be to them.

Granted, growth as an artist can mean branching out into different styles of music, but that's not the sort of growth I'm expecting. Think of it this way: Creep is a foundational track of early 90s alt rock, however rough the rest of Pablo Honey may have been. The Bends and OK Computer are masterpieces. All of these changed music forever. You really can't overstate the impact of their early work. And the impact of their later work has been...what, exactly?

Nonexistant, I'd say.

I'm hearing that you like the styles of music Radiohead explored during the Kid A sessions (and to a lesser extent those of HTTT.) I'm sure there are people who are fans of post Achtung Baby U2 or who think Guns'n'Roses is better off without Slash. There's no accounting for taste, of course, but we can objectively say that these bands hold little of their former mystique, and virtually none of their old relevance. The same is true of Radiohead. We're talking about the Picaso's of alt rock, here. If they aren't inciting musical revolution, they're not living up to their potential.

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locdog wrote:
We're talking about the Picasso's of alt rock, here. If they aren't inciting musical revolution, they're not living up to their potential.

That's an argument I can get behind, and I think it's something they're realizing with the release of In Rainbows.

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