Tips for smalltalk / chitchat at a party please.

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Any tips on good smalltalk subjects parties? I need some topics / suggestions to keep things ticking over and stop me sliding into my usual interrogative self.

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...wait, you didn't mean the Smalltalk language? I'm not sure if you meant introverted instead of interrogative, but the key is to have genuine interest in other people. Everything can go from there.

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The tip is to know nothing and ask lots of questions. People love to talk about themselves. When they talk about something that you're genuinely interested in, ask them more on that topic. That usually gets them excited because you're actually listening, so they talk a bunch more. That usually breaks the ice, and you're off to a legitimate conversation. You've done stand-ups, so you must be pretty funny. A small joke here and there helps hold their attention. Really, you don't arbitrarily set conversational topics. They just come up.

During my shift in the labs, sometimes students would come in too early for their experiment, so I often felt compelled to keep them from being too bored before the previous experiment session ends. Questions about their year and their major are great at keeping them occupied. I especially love the question about their major, because that always leads to why they choose their major, and what they plan on doing with it after school. From there I could get a glimpse of their ambitions and fears, and all of a sudden they become more interesting people to me, which helps raise my curiosity and make me ask more questions.

In the labs the students usually feel pretty vulnerable and thus passive, so it's up to me to try to keep the conversation going. In a party setting, people are all on equal level, so they won't have the same kinds of reservation. If you can get a person to start talking, everything just flows naturally.

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No, not introverted.

Smalltalk isn't about having a genuine interest in people. It's a precursor to proper conversation. My problem is I get straight into conversation and my questions are designed, if that's the right word, to get people to think about themselves and the way they view the world.

As someone quipped last night "I'd hate to be interviewed by you for a job."

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Specifically what questions did you ask?

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Person I was speaking to was a designer. She wanted to move into designing covers for music albums.

I asked her to name an album she liked, whose image she didn't like , how she change it and why.

She'd done also done some pieces with different textures on - presumably bits of paper and material. I asked her how she laid things out, her reasoning and how she wanted people to feel.

I then talked about an idea I'd just had. I realised that, if she'd designed a poster with different textures, people viewing the poster could start interacting with it at any point. (Top left, middle, bottom, near the corner but not quite.)

That would affect they way they interepreted her work, at least in a tactile way.

Then I wondered if you could have one long, thin, piece placed against the wall in a gallery. It would run from left to right. You could put different materials along it, setting up a patter - rough, smooth, rough, smooth. This would continue for a while, then you'd break the pattern, putting a rough where someone expected a smooth and so on. That way you'd have a better chane of controlling the way the viewer / 'toucher' interacts.

I also said it could evoke the feeling of being a child - walking down corridor and running your fingers along the wall.

Of course this was all spur of the moment stuff.

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I asked her to name an album she liked, whose image she didn't like , how she change it and why.

It's her problem if she feels pressured by those questions. But your ideas that followed could have led her into territory she wasn't interested in.

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She was interested in the ideas that followed, but she said several of my questions were tough. And that's what I want to avoid - when someone has to think too much, it affects the flow of the conversation.

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1Dgaf wrote:
Person I was speaking to was a designer. She wanted to move into designing covers for music albums.

I asked her to name an album she liked, whose image she didn't like , how she change it and why.

The first question is fine, the other two back to back I could see coming off like you were trying to test her.

The best conversations are not all about listening. Not all people love to talk about themselves and I certainly would find it strange if after a while of talking with someone I still knew nothing about them. It's about give and take. Listen to what they have to say offer up something about yourself maybe an opinion on what they were just talking about, if it helps keep the conversation going and if the other person picks it up from there than you have a good start.

If you have problems with striking up conversations with people, take an improvisation class somewhere. Improv teaches you how to listen and build off someone else's ideas. Great way to learn conversation skills.

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Wouldn't it be easier to just modify your questions rather than find out new topics? I'm worried how you'll ever steer the conversations to the topics you've prepared.

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I'd say you're missing starting-gear questions there. Stuff that lays a basis for further discussion and allows the other person to get 'warmed up' with the subject. In the particular conversation, I'd have started with a question on what makes cover design so interesting to her. From there, it'd easily move into the things she thinks are necessary for cover design - and you'd be right in front of your starting question, only that she would've had time to sort her (significantly bigger) knowledge of the area.

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Gaald wrote:
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It's about give and take. Listen to what they have to say offer up something about yourself maybe an opinion on what they were just talking about, if it helps keep the conversation going and if the other person picks it up from there than you have a good start.

That's pretty much it. I stand by starting with a couple questions though; better to take the initiative yourself if no one else is interested.

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The tip is to know nothing and ask lots of questions. People love to talk about themselves. When they talk about something that you're genuinely interested in, ask them more on that topic.

Yup, that can really help. It's no magic bullet - if the other person is not into smalltalk or not good at it because he/she's simply not talkative, there isn't a lot you can do. If smalltalk doesn't work, it's not always your fault. Paraphrases - no idea if it actually means the same in English - can help to keep a person going. Example:

"So, then I this and then attended the Oxford university."
"Oh, so you attended Oxfort university?"

Basically, you simply pick a part from a statement, and turn it into a question. Since you'll focus on something the other person said, chances are that person will keep talking, obviously. It's a simple method used by psychologists and psychotherapists, too.

Also, nod in case you're not doing it usually. Research has shown that someone will talk more and longer if his/her counterparts nods compared to when he doesn't. It's a subtle sign of confirmation and reassurance, one of those non-verbal aspects in communication people tend to not perceive directly.

Of course, both, paraphrases and the nodding have to be used in the right way. Overdo it, and your conversation partner will quickly think you're retarded.

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Gaald wrote:
1Dgaf wrote:
Person I was speaking to was a designer. She wanted to move into designing covers for music albums.

I asked her to name an album she liked, whose image she didn't like , how she change it and why.

The first question is fine, the other two back to back I could see coming off like you were trying to test her.

The best conversations are not all about listening. Not all people love to talk about themselves and I certainly would find it strange if after a while of talking with someone I still knew nothing about them. It's about give and take. Listen to what they have to say offer up something about yourself maybe an opinion on what they were just talking about, if it helps keep the conversation going and if the other person picks it up from there than you have a good start.

If you have problems with striking up conversations with people, take an improvisation class somewhere. Improv teaches you how to listen and build off someone else's ideas. Great way to learn conversation skills.

Banged right it right on the head... the way you set up the conversation sounded like an essay question... "compare and contrast the following album covers..." People love to talk about themselves but they like more when people talk about what they're interested and they can be the "expert" in the conversation.

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1D, take a look at "mirroring" and perhaps even take a look at what Neuro-Linguistic Programming has to say on the subject.

My personal advice is to avoid the "demon voice": the bit inside you that thinks of something funny but not perhaps appropriate or likely to be appreciated.

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I know about mirroring and always pay attention to what the other person is doing.

And all my questions sound like essay questions. Again, part of, if not all of, the problem.

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I'd steer clear of mirroring someone because you know that it's good for relating... just because you know of certain social mechanisms doesn't mean you should apply them when it isn't natural to do so.
Let things flow naturally, don't test people on their pastimes or behaviours but do ask questions that show you're interested or turn the other person's explanations/conversation to experiences you have gone through:

eg. P-A: I do physiotherapy and run my own practice...

From that you have three possible responses - four if you allow them to continue.

1) Physio? I had to go through 6 weeks of physio when i put my back out, though it was very hands-off.

2) You run your own practice? How's that turning out? I hear that Physio pays quite well. OR I have a relative who also does this (something similar) where did you train?

3) Cool, i do freelance computer programming. We have to be careful of all that correct posture stuff

(Okay no. 3 was a bit crap but i forgot what i was going to write as i got distracted at work )

Try and save any deeply questioning conversations until you know a person better or if you strike it really well with that person on first meeting. Otherwise the person will feel attacked, on the defensive and stressed by the overly forward nature of the conversation.

The main problem i have is interrupting people - i try not to but some people have VERY long pauses in their flow of talking.... i start to jump in but they've started talking again... annoying

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If you don't know someone at a party, ask how they know the host(s). You can follow-up on their answer ("You met at State University? I visited a friend who went there and I think it's a beautiful campus.") or volunteer how you know the host(s). That way there is give-and-take because both of you are volunteering information equally. And if they show signs of not wanting to continue the conversation (one-word answers, looking around the room) be gracious and excuse yourself.

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If you don't know someone at a party, ask how they know the host(s).

I fell into that trap once. It works 9 times out of 10 but occasionally you get an odd-ball answer. When at a wedding once i had a conversation that went something like this:

-So who are you here with? The bride or groom?

*The couple looked at each other* Er, the groom i think.

- *Me thinking it's a little weird*Cool... It's a lovely day though, isn't it?

*They look uncertain* It rained yesterday.

At this point i disengaged from the conversation and proceeded to stay away from them for the rest of the afternoon. I even removed the bit about if they were relatives or friends... strange people.

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My questions aren't particularly personal (i.e. about relationships, love, sorrow etc.), so I wouldn't say the conversation is overly forward.

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Ugh, I hate small talk. Either be interesting or don't talk at all.

Have some stories or something.

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I've just been reading "Watching the English" by Kate Fox, and she codifies the "rules" of Englishness. Even though I technically knew them instinctively it is disconcerting to see them written down.

The burden of it is that the English are basically awkward, embarrassed and generally useless at all social interaction, and so need lots of rules to enable them to get anything done at all. You are basically not allowed to have meaningful converstation until you know someone a lot better. You aren't even allowed to tell people your name until the end of the conversation or ask people about their job directly. You have to ask about the traffic or something, then ask if they have a long journey in the morning, and then they're duty bound to give you hints as to what they do. You always have to assume they have the highest status job that could match the clues (e.g. if they say they work at the hospital, ask them if they're a doctor rather than a porter). It's extremely bad manners to give vague clues or to be too cryptic. And you can never just ask what they do right out. Only uncouth Americans would do such a crass thing.

Rule Zero is to have an inconsequential, tedious conversation with them.

Start with the weather. Then move onto gossip, or something in the news. That's nice and safe. Then ask an oblique question about work, such as whether they work in "the city"? Then follow the clues to what they do. Say "Wow! That's really interesting!" even if they're a bin emptier or peep show booth cleaner. They will, of course, being English, make a self-deprecating statement about what they do which you must immediately refute. Then go back to the weather. Always agree with what they say. If you disagree with someone when they say it's too hot you get them all huffy. If it's a guy then you go into the "Mine's better than yours" game. At the end of the conversation you are allowed to say "I didn't catch your name?" even though they didn't say it. Then you must take 15 minutes to say goodbye to them, including a ridiculous pantomime of feint and bluff where you decide whether to shake hands if it's a guy or kiss a cheek if it's a girl.

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I'd say its less what you talk about, as how its delivered. If questions are not absolutely "brutal" intrinsicly, the delivery is what decides what makes a person uncomfortable, or at ease. The key to 'small talk' is to make people feel safe comfortable. The inconsequental topics are often used because they are the broadest safest thigns to talk about-- it would take quite a delivery to make the weather conversation intimidating. However, as I've said its not specifcially the topics, but the delivery.

I usually go for a cool semi-interested tone, and work my way up form there.

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Try to work the words "teabagging," "wiener bomb," and "oogaba" into the conversation.

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Well, hold on a second. I'm English and don't necessarily agree.

When we talk of meaningful conversations, that's very loaded term. Nothing I ask is particularly meaningful. I don't ask people to reveal their deepest emotions. (Nor do I want them to.)

I think it's disingenuous to exclaim interest. It's much more polite to say 'Oh really? And how long have you been an [X]?' That way you acknowledge the job, keep the conversation going but aren't feigning anything.

And I don't think it's uncouth to ask what a person does. I think it's to the point. It's entirely possible to be English and to ignore social convention, when it does suit one.

As for saying goodbye, I'm briet but polite and either shake hands or acknowledge - by holding a hand up / nodding - that the person is leaving. I have no interest in hugs or kissing people goodbye.

Bear in mind, though, that I come from a family in which brevity and logic is admired beyond all things. 'Get to the f*cking point' might as well be our family motto.

However I'll bear the oblique point in mind for the next time.

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1Dgaf wrote:
I know about mirroring and always pay attention to what the other person is doing.

And all my questions sound like essay questions. Again, part of, if not all of, the problem.

What often works for me is keeping up with things like the "post a news story" thread or Reuters "oddly enough" stories. Then if all else fails, I can ask, "Hey, did you hear about... ?" Generally, you'll get some sort of reaction, and you can move on from there.

It does sound like your delivery is the main problem, though. You're asking questions in a manner that sounds like a test question, and the questions are things that the other person has some sort of investment in. Ask about if they know anybody at the party, or how they feel about the song that's playing. Often it helps to offer some middle-of-the-road opinion to start. Example: "Isn't this the Hives? They sure seem to be doing well for themselves these days, don't they?"

Above all, smile when they respond, regardless of whether you agree. After all, you're talking about things that ostensibly don't much matter to either of you. That's what makes it small talk.

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