What's a good wireless router?

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I haven't bought one in 5 years. What's a good wireless router for a home network? Thanks.

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wrt54g.

edit: I have been educatematized, and apparently I meant wrt54gl.

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Any of these running DD-WRT:

Current Top-Ranked Routers

* Cheapest: Buffalo WHR-G125
* Fastest DD-WRT Performance*: Avila Gateworks GW2348-4
* Most memory: Routerboard 532A or Avila Gateworks GW2348-4
* Most flexible options (antennas, external storage, etc): Avila Gateworks GW2348-4
* Best range using built-in antenna: Buffalo WHR-HP-G54

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Supported_Devices

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Symbiotic wrote:
Any of these running DD-WRT:
* Cheapest: Buffalo WHR-G125

I'm running Tomato on one of these and it works flawlessly.

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DD-WRT = overrated bloat. Tomato is where it's at.

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I've been perfectly happy with my D-Link DGL-4300.

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I just set my mother up with wireless. Used a Buffalo WHR-G125. They're good, and very cheap. They have excellent range and sensitivity, apparently among the best of the Broadcom-chipset units. I don't know what the default firmware is based on. The webpages were kind of ugly, but it seemed functional enough. I replaced it with DD-WRT because I'm very familiar with it.

Buffalo makes it a little difficult to load anything that they didn't sign. You have to do a reset cycle on the router and load the firmware during the 10-second TFTP window after boot. The DD-WRT wiki has a very nice little BAT file that will automate the whole thing for you. It's not at all hard, but it's more involved than the typical 'load via web page' thing. Once you have DD-WRT running, switching to other firmwares is done the normal way.

The WRT54GL is another good option, though not as sensitive as the Buffalo. You don't want the G or GS; they have half the RAM and a sucky default OS. The GL starts with Linux and is very solid, and then you can add features with DD-WRT if you wish.

I don't have any experience with the Avila or Routerboard products.

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Thanks fellows. I went with the WRT54GL because it's my sister's money and I've had good luck with my own Linksys router.

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So the G is now the GL, and the old G designation is used for a new model? When/Why did that happen?

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pol wrote:
wrt54g.

No way unless it's V4 or lower which aren't made anymore. I install 20 of these a week and anything above a V5 is junk. You also can't patch in your own firmware with those as anything above V4 no longer runs Linux. You'll need the WRT54GL for that (if you can find one.)

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I just set my mother up with wireless. Used a Buffalo WHR-G125. They're good, and very cheap. They have excellent range and sensitivity, apparently among the best of the Broadcom-chipset units.

There's no best when dealing with Broadcom, only that which sucks the least. The number of headaches and compatibility issues with routers and card based on Broadcom chips makes me want to torch their factory.

The best consumer wireless router ever made is still the DGL-4300 by D-Link. Very powerful, incredible array of configuration options with a graet GUI, one of the best QoS systems in a consumer router, gigabit ports and you can beat the crap out of it and it won't flinch. The only problem is it costs about 3 times as much as a more standard line router.

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Parallax Abstraction wrote:
No way unless it's V4 or lower which aren't made anymore. I install 20 of these a week and anything above a V5 is junk. You also can't patch in your own firmware with those as anything above V4 no longer runs Linux. You'll need the WRT54GL for that (if you can find one.)

You can flash the v5 and v6 version of the wrt54g. Here is the guide. I've done it a few times and works a treat. I prefer to use them as client bridges though as they have to use the micro versions of the firmware but still should be fine as a router. Works a treat for those that don't want to run cat5 all over their house.

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pol wrote:
So the G is now the GL, and the old G designation is used for a new model? When/Why did that happen?

The G version still exists. Its OS is based on VxWorks and the GL is the Linux based OS. The wiki on the wrt54g is very good for all this info.

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Thought this thread would be over when the guy said what he picked, so anyway, go D-Link. I'm currently using the second one I bought and the first is still working and in use after several years.

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parallax wrote:
No way unless it's V4 or lower which aren't made anymore

Yeah mine are all older, have 16mb RAM, and do great with DD-WRT....thus the post directly above yours.

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That's cool that you can flash teh VxWorks models now. The last time I checked, only up to V4 worked so it's cool they managed to find a way around that. With DD-WRT or Sveasoft, they become a whole other animal. But still Broadcom.

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Don't use Sveasoft. That guy's a prick... a GPL violator who made false accusations of hacking to get his detractors knocked offline. He actually issued a DMCA takedown notice on GPL code. He bans people who criticize him; he even bans people who have memberships on other forums he dislikes. His assholery is nearly unlimited. You don't, of course, see much about this on his forums, because he ruthlessly prunes and removes all such info.

Nothing wrong with DD-WRT that I know of, although I read somewhere that they're charging for more advanced features now, which sucks. I gave them money at least once, and maybe twice, entirely voluntarily... which makes me a bit of a chump, since I'd have gotten more by waiting.

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There's no best when dealing with Broadcom, only that which sucks the least. The number of headaches and compatibility issues with routers and card based on Broadcom chips makes me want to torch their factory.

I did have some issues recently with the Intel Centrino driver updates; they just wouldn't talk to my AP anymore. I had to update to the most recent beta to get them back online. Not sure if it's Broadcom, Intel, or the DD-WRT people at fault, but at least the firmware guys figured it out and fixed it.

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^^ Intel "Centrino" problems are likely the result of you having their proprietary PSP (Power saving) mode enabled on your laptop's card. You need to set it to MAX POWER in order to ensure that the card talks to a variety of routers that may or may not be aware of its assholish behavior.

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Yes indeed. I had this issue with my Intel 3945ABG on my Dell Inspiron 9300. Which chip specifically are you running? Centrino is just a branding that can mean a number of different adapters.

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You need to set it to MAX POWER

Ooh, good information, thank you very much.

Heh, I had the issue on the Intel 3945ABG on the Dell Inspiron 9300.... as well as my mother's laptop, a Toshiba with Intel something-or-other. The DD-WRT update worked fine in both cases.

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The Intel ones Dell uses are weird. When my laptop is on, the wireless activity light on my router constantly flashes, even if the laptop is not downloading anything and it's only the wireless light, not my external connection light. My girlfriend's old eMachines laptop with the same adapter doesn't do it. And mine does it whenever the system is on, OS loaded or not. There's some sort of little modification Dell does to their cards that makes them operate differently than other ones based on the same chip.

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I gave up on linksys and now use a D-Link DGL 4300 gamerlounge now and its been phenomenal.

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I have to say, Verizon dumped an Actiontec MI424WR in my lap and I love it. Tons of features, can use open source upgrades and rock solid so far.

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bennard wrote:
Symbiotic wrote:
Any of these running DD-WRT:
* Cheapest: Buffalo WHR-G125

I'm running Tomato on one of these and it works flawlessly.

The Tomato webpage doesn't list the WHR-G125 as compatitable. A couple of web searches confirm. You sure? I just picked one up last night and am looking to replace the firmware.

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I just got a WHR-G125 and put DD-WRT "mini" on it, so far so good.

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DD-WRT sure is nice. I put "mini" on the Buffalo mentioned in the last post, and the "micro" version on a Linksys WRT54GS v5 that was seemingly becoming a piece of junk. The Linksys is now set up as a repeater that allows me to put my wired Vonage adapter anywhere, instead of within corded distance of my primary router.

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rabbit wrote:
I gave up on linksys and now use a D-Link DGL 4300 gamerlounge now and its been phenomenal.

Same, its the best router I've ever had and worked with- and thats saying a lot. I never get lag anymore. EVER. And my torrents are FANTASTIC. I can download torrents and play Xbox Live..

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I use a Buffalo WHR-G125 with DD-WRT and it works like a charm. On sale, it was about $40, and outperforms my old Linksys WRT54G which started smelling like it was about to catch on fire, and would frequently drop signal.

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I'm looking to replace my wonky Linksys WRT54G with a Buffalo WHR-G125 based on the recommendations in this thread, but I've found that most online retail sites don't have it in stock. Has it been replaced with a newer model? Any ideas on where can I get it (or its successor) for a decent price?

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Any ideas on where can I get it (or its successor) for a decent price?

Assuming your location is San Antonio as the Alamo suggests, CircuitCity.com says the store on the 410 loop by North Star Mall has it in stock.

If not SA, check the Best Buy, Circuit City, and Frys in your area.

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This isn't worth a thread of its own, but let's laugh at a stupid thing I did today...

Actually, it's a stupid thing that I did a while ago, that I just noticed today. I had set up QoS on my DD-WRT router some time ago. Today I was trying to troubleshoot its performance (Bittorrent traffic was supposed to be lowest priority, but other things were still choking with BT running), and I loaded up my QoS panel in DD-WRT and noticed something...

I had inverted the settings for Downstream and Upstream bandwidth. On a 10MB down/1MB up cable connection..... yeah....

That would explain the crappy performance! The instant that I switched them and hit Apply, the streaming radio feed I was listening to stopped pausing and ran like a champ.

In my defense, the screen lists the input box for upstream first, and downstream second. Everyone knows that you list downstream first!

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Crouton wrote:
Any ideas on where can I get it (or its successor) for a decent price?

Assuming your location is San Antonio as the Alamo suggests, CircuitCity.com says the store on the 410 loop by North Star Mall has it in stock.

That's kind of you to look into that, but I live near Boston. The Alamo reference was a line from Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Still, I'll check my local big box stores.

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